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Aunt of this little boy

Frankton, IN

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#88
Sep 25, 2007
 
Righteous One wrote:
Then you should have been even more vigilant and watch him more closely if he was this way.
Ummmmmm....For your information I was not there when this happened so don't sit there and blame me now for this happening as if your not already blaming the parents but now you have to blame the Aunt?!?!?!?!?
hoosiermom

Mansfield, OH

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#89
Sep 25, 2007
 
Aunt, I am so sorry this happened to your family. Please try not to read this trash, and consider the source. I honestly know what you, and your family are feeling right now. I too am grieving over the loss of family. Unless someone is dealing with this, they would never understand. People can be insensitive, and cruel. Makes you lose faith in your fellow human beings, doesn't it? Please try to take this a moment at a time. People say a day at a time, but I am finding it easier to live each minute, doing whatever it takes to get through this. It's a helpless feeling because whats done is done, and their is no going back. You can't change it, but your family can comfort each other. You are feeling something others cannot feel. The public reacts with sadness, and anger. Your family feels something much deeper. A grief that is so heavy you almost feel like you won't survive. You dont need to read all of these negative comments. God Bless Your Family.
Family of Kamden

Indianapolis, IN

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#90
Sep 26, 2007
 
Look I tried to stay away from reading the trash people write in these forum's but you know it's kind of hard when you happen to come across one because you want to see what the article's in the papers are saying. For one let me say that my family is grieving very much so for our loss. All of the article's I have read have said something different. Not one has really had the straight story. We have a very loving and caring family and no we are not junkies and negligent people. We value family very much and not one person in my family would ever do anything to hurt anyone. The father of this sweet little boy has not been back from Iraq for very long and he is grieving the fact he did not have more time with his "little man". His father was fighting for your freedom and all you people can do is trash talk him. As for his mother she is a very attentive, caring, loving mother and being part of the family I have seen first hand what a good mother she is. Her kids are her life. It was a very tragic and very saddening day for everyone personally involved. It only takes a second for a child to dart off, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is to blame for this. For those of you who think you have the right to pass judgement on a situation you know nothing about and people you know nothing about, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. If you can tell me you have children and they have never been out of your sight, not even for one minute you are all full of it. You may know where your child is and what your child is doing at all times but do you REALLY know. You tell me one child who is not sneaky, who has never gotten into anything they're not supposed to and who has never been out of your sight for even one second and I will call you a liar because it's bound to happen at one time or another. Our family is greiving and this is something his parents are going to have to live with for the rest of their lives. So before you be so quick to pass judgement think about how you would feel in their situation, I pray to god you never have to know the pain of losing a child who is so dearly loved.
dawn

Muncie, IN

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#91
Sep 28, 2007
 
Informed wrote:
<quoted text> If you have an inground pool then why are you complaining on the other forum that you cant afford 25.00 for a child support case.
This forum is not for that. At the time I couldn't.
Smell The Roses

Carmel, IN

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#92
Sep 28, 2007
 
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This forum is not for that. At the time I couldn't.
If you did not want to be called out on it then perhaps you should not have shared those particular facts.
hoosiermom

Muncie, IN

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#93
Sep 28, 2007
 
Smell The Roses wrote:
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If you did not want to be called out on it then perhaps you should not have shared those particular facts.
Or you could mind your own business. As she said, this has nothing to do with this forum. If you want to make a comment about that, then find the other topic. But then that wouldn't be as much fun would it? Makes people feel tough when attacking others.
Sad lil Girl

Elwood, IN

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#94
Oct 23, 2007
 
its really sad and i feel sorry for the people that have 2 go through this and where it happend at i know them and i will always be herrre if they need somebody 2 talk 2.... i love them very much...
Damon Superman

Indianapolis, IN

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#95
Oct 24, 2007
 
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This IS negligence. Several people at home at the time yet no one watching the child? So, when the kid got out on 465, was that also not negligence?
Not in my book. These parents should be locked up if Nancy Dyer had her kids taken away and then got locked up. They weren't killed either. How about involuntary manslaughter? Works for me.
John carroll

Glenview, IL

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#96
Oct 25, 2007
 
I am the father. It saddens me that you people can ber so judgemental. Last I heard GOD is the only one to judge others. You people must have something better to do than judge my parenting skills. You do not know me or my children. You do not know that I went over to fight you war so that I could feed my children. Now tell me am I a bad parent. If you want the truth I will tell you.

I got home from Military training at about 1pm on sunday sept 23rd. Kaleb, Kaden and Kamden were all waiting on me. The wanted to go over to my older cousins rummage sell. I was tired but I still went. We sat there for a few hours watching the Colts game. The kids were all playing in the room with a playstation. Kamden was in there also. well a person came to the rummage so i went out there to greet them. Kamden was inside. 5 min later i came in and went to check on my kids. the two women were cooking supper for me and the kids. well i asked where kamden was because i would usually se him or here him. that and he was always getting into sumthin that he shouldnt so i wanted to check on him. i could not find him in the house so i went outside to see if he was playing with the lawn mower or sumthin yes we are hillbilly we have lawn mowers go ahead and jugge that also if ya want. any way i went behind the house and yelled i could not see him. after 2 min of lookin for him i got a gut feeling to check in the pool. i seen him face down. I jumped in without a ladder i might add, and jumped out with him i did cpr rescue breathing for 10 min untill the ambulance arrived. was he alive? only god knows . he was only gone for 5 min. after that we spent 2 hrs in the er room with him as they tried to save him. they called life line and said that he was ok i felt so blessed then i heard life line commin in the distance. he was alive i said to god thankyou then they brought in the debibulater he was gone again. I could still hear the life line chopper but it slowly faded away and i knew that my youngest boy was gonew forever. SO you tell me am I a bad parent for not watching my son every sec of the day? Am i bad for trying to save his life? GET REAL AND LET GOD BE THE JUDGE>>>>> >>>>>>> >
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

JOHN CARROLL the father
Curious wrote:
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Two little boys? Did I miss something?
John carroll

Glenview, IL

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#97
Oct 25, 2007
 
actually we did have child proof locks in our house. he was two he would get up early and not wake us up. he would want to play outside. my other two sons would wake us up and tell us that kamden was on the swing set. so i would run out there and pull him in the house and make him sit on the couch while i told him the reason why he was in trouble.... after that we got locks..mind you own .

love. always....johnny
Mkayyy wrote:
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The mother in the I-465 incident was drug and alcohol tested upon arrest all negative, the boy got out 2 days prior to the I-465 incident no other documentation that he had gotten out before.
I am not saying the I-465 did not deserve her charges I am questioning why a house of adults awake and aware of a 2 yr old up and roaming get away with negligent homicide or atleast involuntary homicide or neglect of a dependant something anything.
This is happening way to often and charges are picked and chosen as to who they will be levied against WHY?
This is a cut and dry neglect case and nothing is being done. What makes this case any different than the mother who left her children and there was a house fire?
What makes this case any diffierent then the woman whose grandchild drowned and she is now being charged because she had a daycare and lied about how many children were in the home?
What makes the prosecution decide who should be charged and who shouldn't?
Neglect is neglect. No 2 ways around it. This is a classic case of a 2 yr old being neglected while adults were awake. Guess it is a good thing they were not asleep huh?
John carroll

Glenview, IL

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#98
Oct 25, 2007
 
Mkayyy wrote:
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The mother in the I-465 incident was drug and alcohol tested upon arrest all negative, the boy got out 2 days prior to the I-465 incident no other documentation that he had gotten out before.
I am not saying the I-465 did not deserve her charges I am questioning why a house of adults awake and aware of a 2 yr old up and roaming get away with negligent homicide or atleast involuntary homicide or neglect of a dependant something anything.
This is happening way to often and charges are picked and chosen as to who they will be levied against WHY?
This is a cut and dry neglect case and nothing is being done. What makes this case any different than the mother who left her children and there was a house fire?
What makes this case any diffierent then the woman whose grandchild drowned and she is now being charged because she had a daycare and lied about how many children were in the home?
What makes the prosecution decide who should be charged and who shouldn't?
Neglect is neglect. No 2 ways around it. This is a classic case of a 2 yr old being neglected while adults were awake. Guess it is a good thing they were not asleep huh?

this is crap. the child who burned in elwood come to find out by the coroner was dead before the fire began. the kid on I 465, its a damn highway. the mother was asleep the kid had a dirty diaper. the house was trashed. she wasnt drinking but does meth show up in a breath test... as for me well it was a freak accident. guess you dont know our family well enough do you. LET GOD BE THE JUDGE.......

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Indianapolis, IN

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#99
Oct 26, 2007
 
John carroll wrote:
I am the father. It saddens me that you people can ber so judgemental. Last I heard GOD is the only one to judge others. You people must have something better to do than judge my parenting skills. You do not know me or my children. You do not know that I went over to fight you war so that I could feed my children. Now tell me am I a bad parent. If you want the truth I will tell you.
I got home from Military training at about 1pm on sunday sept 23rd. Kaleb, Kaden and Kamden were all waiting on me. The wanted to go over to my older cousins rummage sell. I was tired but I still went. We sat there for a few hours watching the Colts game. The kids were all playing in the room with a playstation. Kamden was in there also. well a person came to the rummage so i went out there to greet them. Kamden was inside. 5 min later i came in and went to check on my kids. the two women were cooking supper for me and the kids. well i asked where kamden was because i would usually se him or here him. that and he was always getting into sumthin that he shouldnt so i wanted to check on him. i could not find him in the house so i went outside to see if he was playing with the lawn mower or sumthin yes we are hillbilly we have lawn mowers go ahead and jugge that also if ya want. any way i went behind the house and yelled i could not see him. after 2 min of lookin for him i got a gut feeling to check in the pool. i seen him face down. I jumped in without a ladder i might add, and jumped out with him i did cpr rescue breathing for 10 min untill the ambulance arrived. was he alive? only god knows . he was only gone for 5 min. after that we spent 2 hrs in the er room with him as they tried to save him. they called life line and said that he was ok i felt so blessed then i heard life line commin in the distance. he was alive i said to god thankyou then they brought in the debibulater he was gone again. I could still hear the life line chopper but it slowly faded away and i knew that my youngest boy was gonew forever. SO you tell me am I a bad parent for not watching my son every sec of the day? Am i bad for trying to save his life? GET REAL AND LET GOD BE THE JUDGE>>>>> >>>>>>> >
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
JOHN CARROLL the father
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I am deeply sorry for your loss, and that you had to read the crap that some of these people have written. There is little courtesy here and manners are rare. The forum allows anyone with a keyboard to spout off opinions on subjects they know nothing about. It also allows those with hate in their heart a venue to spout off whatever pops up in their pathetic little minds. Some people just want to see someone punished everytime a child dies. It was an accident, it wasn't neglect. I hope you and your wife find some peace. Please know that not everyone thinks you are a bad parent.
john carroll

Glenview, IL

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Oct 26, 2007
 
thank you
IndyDevil wrote:
<quoted text>I am deeply sorry for your loss, and that you had to read the crap that some of these people have written. There is little courtesy here and manners are rare. The forum allows anyone with a keyboard to spout off opinions on subjects they know nothing about. It also allows those with hate in their heart a venue to spout off whatever pops up in their pathetic little minds. Some people just want to see someone punished everytime a child dies. It was an accident, it wasn't neglect. I hope you and your wife find some peace. Please know that not everyone thinks you are a bad parent.

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