Elmira Nutrition Clinic and Carolyn Hodges

What happens to people who have eating disorders and go get help and only get turned away because they dont have money or speak up on the abuse they were receiving from the director,and noone listens to them and the person gets away with it,when in reality all this person did was want to get help so they went to the clinic and only got abused from carolyn hodges and told she couldnt get help because she didnt have money,and because the director didnt like her,when it gets reported the director tells so many different stories to each person and lies her way out of it and now because she has had complaints against her for fraud of medicare and medicaid she is threatening this patient to shut her mouth or she is going to do things.what kind of professional does that and why wont anyone listen to what she has done?why do they always get away with things like this?and why just because they dont have money they cant get the help they were seeking without being emotionally abused,and to find out carolyn isnt even registered to practice.any comments welcomed,she always said that noone would listen because she was the professional and they were the patient and that she would get believed before anyone.so I guess it is ringing true,when the truth comes out she gets away with lies.and is still frauding medicaid and threatening people

michelle,
please tell me more on in what ways were you "abused". Exactly what happened, what was said to you by Carolyn?

Carolyn would tell me because I had medicaid that she didnt want me at her program and that she wasnt going to let me do her program and if I wanted to do a program to leave and go out of town and do one because they have medicaid beds,she would leave me in the waiting room for over 2 hours while she took in everyone else who had appointments after me and then when noone else was left she finally took me in,she would call me a liar and that she didnt like me,she said she didnt want me there anymore,she told me I couldnt work with someone who was helping me and that I couldnt go to group anymore while everyone else got to go,she told all the other girls who I was keeping in touch with that I met while going there to not talk to me anymore,then I found out she wasnt even registered and she is practicing,I was always leaving there crying and I was getting physically sick from her always yelling at me and the names she was calling me,she told me I was sick and needed help mentally,then the other nutritionist that did help me kept in touch with me when I left and couldnt go there anymore,he would call me everyday after he left from work and talk to me after carolyn told everyone at the clinic not to talk to me,he said if I told that he was still talking to me he would deny it because carolyn threatened his job,I would go see him on saturdays when the clinic was closed and stay there with him from 11 am until after 3pm,I am not allowed to tell everything because I was told noone would listen to me because I am a patient and they are the professional and they would be listened to before me,carolyn lied and told the cops that I was calling there everyday and emailing everyday and she even made up papers that I wrote and showed them,I told them to get the phone records to prove that I havent ever called there and because the phone records would prove I didnt call there at all and that bruce called me,he told me that he loved me and that he cared about me more then I will ever know.I tryed to get people to listen tome but noone will listen to me because she keeps telling all these different stories and all I ever wanted was help to get better and so noone else who goes to the clinic gets hurt the way I was and have to suffer because they dont have money and get put down because of it,regardless if your poor or have money everyone deserves the help,she told me she didnt like me and she was going to get me out of her clinic anyway she could.so I guess her lying did it and its true noone listens to me because I am a patient and she is a professional who gets away with it.she shouldnt get away with how she is treating people and I am not the first patient she did this to,there has been others they came forward and told me they are scared to tell me because they dont want to be kicked out also.so I am not the only one who this happened to,I am just the only one to speak out and not be scared of her.why did you want to know?

Michelle;
I do not know who you are and from reading your post I can tell you are in a lot of pain. However, I can tell you this, I would not be writing this post if Carolyn Hodges had not saved my live more then 10 years ago. I cannot believe that Carolyn would do the things you stated. It is simply so unlike her. Just so you know where I am coming from, I almost died from Bulimia and Anorexia and it was only due to Carolyn's intervention that I am here today. Money was never an issue with Carolyn, so I have a feeling that something else is going on here. And she never raised her voice! To accuse her of yelling at you and telling lies is, well a lie!
I should know, because she had plenty of reasons to scream at me. I was not a walk in the park I can tell you. My disorder had taken control of me like yours is controlling you. In your posting, I here the disorder speaking.
I said to Carolyn once, year ago "please forgive me for the moments when I am insane. I will say and do things that I do not really mean because the disorder is speaking".
Yes, you do need help but blaming Carolyn Hodges is not going to get you there. And yes, help does cost money. I paid my way working at a bakery if you can believe that! Unfortunately care costs money and there is not enough of it to go around. I had to borrow money from my grandmother so I could be hospitalized for two months. If you really want to get help, you will find a way.

I am sorry you are in pain, but writing lies about Carolyn is wrong. Posts on the internet last forever. I have a feeling you will regret this down the road a piece.

You might want to seek other places to get help if you cannot find it at the Nutrition Clinic. There is free counseling available through OA meetings, churches, etc.

Best Regards,

Taiga Lore

I didnt post lies about carolyn I have her emails she wrote to me and the letters she sent to me and a therapist who is a witness to how she treated me,so it wasnt the disorder speaking unless the therapist has an eating disorder which I am sure he doesnt,Just because she helped you doesnt mean she treats everyone that way,and for my case money was the issue she wrote it in a letter to me and an email to me,would you like to see the letters and proof?How can it be the eating disorder talking if a therapist seen everything with his own eyes?answer that one please?and I dont blame her I take full responsibility for all my actions and I blame myself for how she treated me and I am not the only one who is coming forward about her,so how is it lies?yes she helped you,yes she treated you with respect,but you have to see both sides of the story and realize not everyone gets treated the same way by people,she came right out and told me she didnt like me and couldnt stand me and just because I got medicaid and medicare she didnt want me at her place,I have the proof in letters by her that she wrote,How did I post lies when it is her own words?and another professional seen it happening with their own eyes?Does this person who seen how she treated me is that the disorder talking for the therapist also?Just asking because if this therapist seen it happening then it cant be the disorder or lies talking here.Look at both sides of the story before you take one side just because she helped you and didnt judge you because of money,everyone is different and gets treated different and I know how she treated me and what she said to me and I have the letters,emails and another professional who seen it with their own eyes.so it isnt lies,I dont deny that she did help you but it is certain people she chooses to help and the truth is in what her own words said to me in letters,and emails and to other professionals.

That was 10 years ago that she was the way you are describing,she wasnt this way to me when I first started going there and I was doing good there working with Bruce I even went to the clinic on saturdays with bruce when they werent open and he called me everyday when he left work to go home,when she got turned in for fraud she took bruce away from me and wouldnt let me talk to anyone but her at the clinic and she wouldnt let me go to group anymore,I wasnt allowed to talk to anyone,so what I did post was all truth,I dont lie and havent ever lied in my life,I know about eating disorders and how some people with them lie and manipulate others but I didnt ever do that and I wouldnt do that,I have better morals and I have a higher standard for myself,I always told on myself what I did,I didnt hide anything,the way you are describing her was more then 10 years ago,how can you accuse me of lying when it was that long ago and you dont know,you dont know how she treated me you werent there,and what about the proof of her letters and emails,is that the disorder also because I dont think carolyn has an eating disorder and she sure as heck wrote them to me,and she did treat me this way in front of a therapist who seen it all.so how can you judge me and say I wrote lies just because she helped you,we are two different people,and everyone doesnt get treated the same way,I still keep in touch with bruce from there,he writes me and calls me.what I stated was the truth and not anything else,you have to see both sides of the story and just because she helped you and treated you nice and all that jazz doesnt mean she wouldnt treat anyone else different,and when there is proof and witnesses makes it even more true

Taiga Lore wrote:

Michelle;
I do not know who you are and from reading your post I can tell you are in a lot of pain. However, I can tell you this, I would not be writing this post if Carolyn Hodges had not saved my live more then 10 years ago. I cannot believe that Carolyn would do the things you stated. It is simply so unlike her. Just so you know where I am coming from, I almost died from Bulimia and Anorexia and it was only due to Carolyn's intervention that I am here today. Money was never an issue with Carolyn, so I have a feeling that something else is going on here. And she never raised her voice! To accuse her of yelling at you and telling lies is, well a lie!
I should know, because she had plenty of reasons to scream at me. I was not a walk in the park I can tell you. My disorder had taken control of me like yours is controlling you. In your posting, I here the disorder speaking.
I said to Carolyn once, year ago "please forgive me for the moments when I am insane. I will say and do things that I do not really mean because the disorder is speaking".
Yes, you do need help but blaming Carolyn Hodges is not going to get you there. And yes, help does cost money. I paid my way working at a bakery if you can believe that! Unfortunately care costs money and there is not enough of it to go around. I had to borrow money from my grandmother so I could be hospitalized for two months. If you really want to get help, you will find a way.
I am sorry you are in pain, but writing lies about Carolyn is wrong. Posts on the internet last forever. I have a feeling you will regret this down the road a piece.
You might want to seek other places to get help if you cannot find it at the Nutrition Clinic. There is free counseling available through OA meetings, churches, etc.
Best Regards,
Taiga Lore

I am not going to get into it with you. You are obviously in a lot of pain and your repetition of words and statements indicates you cannot see things clearly.

Your rantings are well just that. They remind me of well... me many years ago.

I understand because I have been there. Just know this, you can get better and live a really excellent life. You can beat the disorder. I know because I am living proof.

Your statements however about Carolyn committing fraud are unfounded. I checked into it, so I would humbly suggest you dial that down for your own sake. As for your other statements, from my knowledge of Carolyn I know in my heart that they are also false. She is just not that way.

Carolyn Hodges is doing good work and I will stand by her regardless of your rantings. And I can probably say this about myself, I am pretty sure I was way more of a challenge to Carolyn in terms of attitude and illness then yourself. I think Carolyn always felt that because she was able to handle me she could probably handle anything or anyone else that came along.

By the way, emails can be altered and faked, so I am not interested in you sending them to me. I would not be interested in them regardless. You see I understand you probably way more then you can understand yourself right now. I know that sounds trite and judgmental, but it is in fact fairly accurate.

Please do get some help somewhere. Your insistance on getting help at the Nutrition Clinic when it is not working for you is in fact another part of the disorder. My guess is that you were probably expecting to not have to follow any rules when you sought help.(Meeting staff after hours is a classic...!) Guess again my friend. The rules are there to protect you and everyone else. Why do you think we have stop signs?

Your disorder will always try to take control and push away any help that is offered. You have to change if you want to heal. Change is hard. Some people don't make it. I have know some whom have died of this disorder.

However, life is actually alright once you get to living it. You can get better if you really choose to. You might consider art therapy or some type of spiritual counseling (Pagen, Christian, Hindu, etc.) or OA. These are usually free or very low cost.

Good luck and Goddess speed my friend.

Taiga Lore (a.k.a. Wisdom/knowledge of the Forest)

So since you can alter an email or whatever,can you alter a therapist who witnessed all this?is he also a liar?Does he also have an eating disorder?he was a witness to this and so wasnt anoher professional,so they lied about her also?and they must have an eating disorder right?

Also why would I dial it down for my own sake about carolyn committing fraud when she is under investigation for it?through medicare and medicaid,Is that a threat to me to dial it down for my own sake?because it is under investigation right now and you cant get any information on my case that she is under investigation for.
Also I wasnt trying to get help from the nutrition clinic anymore,I was doing good there working with Bruce while going there during hours and I followed all his rules,going there after hours was because bruce wanted me to go there while he went there on saturdays.
How do you know carolyn isnt this way to people?just because she wasnt that way to you you think she isnt that way to anyone else,do you talk to her now or even know the kind of person she is now?I am nothing like you because I wouldnt go and put someone down and accuse them of lying when they are telling the truth about the treatment they received,and had WITNESSES to the way they were treated.WHAT PART DONT YOU GET THAT I DIDNT WORK WITH CAROLYN AT ALL WHILE AT THE CLINIC UNTIL THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS AND YOU CANT ALTER LETTERS SENT THROUGH THE MAIL IN SOMEONES HANDWRITING,you can only see one side of the story and THINK you know what is true and accurate when the evidence proves otherwise and the witnesses prove otherwise,your very Bias toward people and very judgemental when you dont know how someone acts today from how they were 10 years ago,you knew her ten years ago not now.The truth will come out and karma will come back to get her and payback is a bitch for her.She will get hers for all the lying and wrong doing she has done and the abuse emotional and other kinds of abuse she is doing and other staff members did.

Interesting conversation. I am curious, if an outfit does not except medicare/aid then how can it be investigating for fraud thereof? And if you did not really meet with this person then how can you be mad at her? Strange.

Did you read the whole thing I met with her the last couple weeks,otherwise I was working with bruce,I didnt ever say they didnt accept medicare or medicaid what I did say was she put me down because that is what I had.and what is an outfit and how do thy accept medicaid or medicare?and I am not mad at her I just dont want anyone else to go through what abuse I went through just because they dont have money.

But you actually did say they did not accept medicaid in your second post. And despite what you claim it comes across that you are angry at this Carolyn woman. It does appear that you are more angry that she 'took Bruce away' rather then the other stuff.

I didnt say they didnt take medicaid what I said was that she told me because I had medicaid she didnt want me in her program and to go do a program in syracuse they have a medicaid bed for me,I wasnt angry I just didnt understand if your program is to help people then why do you take away a worker who was helping someone and I was improving,I was eating and I had gained weight and it didnt make sense to take away a person who was helping me all because she was turned in for fraud for charging for services that werent received.that is what it was I wasnt angry I just didnt understand why you take away someone who had helped someone and was still helping them improve.all over being turned in for fraud

Did they fraud you though? Otherwise I am a' thinkin' that what you are saying may be called 'hear-say'. I think that means that it will not hold up in court..if my time in front of the tv watching SVU serves as correct.

yes it was my medicare that I have to pay for that they frauded.it isnt hearsay because I have the medical records which proves I didnt get the services they were charging for.they were charging for seeing a medical doctor and I didnt ever see a medical doctor.

Then is it not fraud Michelle. Under Medicare it states ( i looked this up)
"Medicare covers needed diagnostic and treatment services provided by physicians, including psychiatrists, as well as clinical psychologists, social workers, psychiatric nurse specialists, nurse practitioners and physicians assistants.". Medicare probably reimburses them all under the same heading. Kinda like buying groceries ya' know. Milk comes up as dairy and so does cheese. I guess it dapends on the store.

then why did medicare do something about it? and it only covers it when they are registered or licensed and they werent.medicare is doing something about it and so is mediciad because they are still charging for services to get paid for appointments and even requested an increase in my appointments to get paid when I havent been there,and when I called they told me they asked for more appointments to get paid and they are now being investigated for the medicaid by doing that.Asking for an increase in appointments for a patient that no longer goes there is fraud.thats asking to be paid for a patient who doesnt go there anymore that is fraud,

Michelle,

I "do" believe you. Unfortunately, people get srewed by professionals as they are not perfect always and sometimes screw up-as they are human like us- even though we expect them to be different. It sounds like you were discriminated against.

I agree with Marilyn. I have had some really bad experiences with mental health professionals. On the flip side, I have a friend who is a therapist and treats eating disorder patients. I have heard about some of the craziness that goes on with people. My grandmother was on medicare and I had to deal with the paperwork and the hospital. I couldn't blame the hospital because the medicare forms where so nutty. I don't know. Our medicare system is screwed up if ya' ask me.

Has anyone had negative experiences with the physician who works there, or other staff?