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Feb 10, 2012
 
Just wondering how much money do these teen mothers make doing this MTV shows.
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Just wondering how much money do these teen mothers make doing this MTV shows.
It was reported a while back that when Amber from teen mom 1 appeared in court she was ordered to reveal her income. It was reported to be 280,000 per year. If thats true then how are these girls struggling like they portray on the show or do they have scripts as well? After all, if they had no finances to worry about it would be hard for MTV to show the true struggles of teen moms right?
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It was reported a while back that when Amber from teen mom 1 appeared in court she was ordered to reveal her income. It was reported to be 280,000 per year. If thats true then how are these girls struggling like they portray on the show or do they have scripts as well? After all, if they had no finances to worry about it would be hard for MTV to show the true struggles of teen moms right?
Dealing with babies and small children when you're in high school is definitely a struggle, no matter how much money a teen mom is making, especially if she has to drop out of school to care for the baby. I believe Amber and Chelsea had to do that, and now they're having trouble getting their GED's. In my view, NO amount of money is worth losing your high school and then college or vocational education.

There's probably a LOT of struggling that the MTV cameras aren't showing. I would never have wanted to be a teen mom, and thank goodness I never had to be.
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Dealing with babies and small children when you're in high school is definitely a struggle, no matter how much money a teen mom is making, especially if she has to drop out of school to care for the baby. I believe Amber and Chelsea had to do that, and now they're having trouble getting their GED's. In my view, NO amount of money is worth losing your high school and then college or vocational education.
There's probably a LOT of struggling that the MTV cameras aren't showing. I would never have wanted to be a teen mom, and thank goodness I never had to be.
I know its a struggle because I did it. I also quit high school, got my GED, and enrolled in college classes before my high school class mates graduated which puts me in the 2% of teen moms that do graduate college before 30. I don't think its wrong for these girls to do this show. I don't blame them if they get that kind of money because they couldn't make that much any other way. I think the show does try to show the struggles of teen moms but my only question is are they really struggling with finances as they make them out to be if they are getting paid that much?
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Feb 13, 2012
 
I don't think their struggling I mean they always have their nails done and trying to go to concerts or getting new cars or tanning I was a teen mom who struggled and I couldn't afford any of that I think its all scripted.
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Feb 13, 2012
 
its possible
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I know its a struggle because I did it. I also quit high school, got my GED, and enrolled in college classes before my high school class mates graduated which puts me in the 2% of teen moms that do graduate college before 30. I don't think its wrong for these girls to do this show. I don't blame them if they get that kind of money because they couldn't make that much any other way. I think the show does try to show the struggles of teen moms but my only question is are they really struggling with finances as they make them out to be if they are getting paid that much?
I don't believe I ever said it was wrong for these girls to do this show, and it could help many other teen girls who are not pregnant at this time to AVOID going down that road. As to whether they're struggling or not, dealing with babies, toddlers and small children in high school sure looks like struggling to ME, no matter what their salaries are.

Also, not every teen girl can quit high school and then get their GED that easily. Even with a good family support network in place, it is still VERY difficult for a teen girl to get studying for a GED test done when she has to care for a baby 24/7. Even if she does get the GED, college or vocational school may be impossible for her because no one in her family can or is willing to watch the baby for her.

A girl's high school and then college or vocational school years is a time when she is better off WITHOUT the responsibilities of motherhood. Being a mother at this time makes it at least ten times HARDER to complete her years of high school and then graduate. Amber and Chelsea have already found that out the hard way.
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Here are some of the hardships mothers of all ages will face once a baby arrives:

LOSS OF FREEDOM – Having a baby really DOES change everything, including the freedom that girls used to have in abundance. Once the baby arrives, that freedom will be gone, for at least the next five or six years and possibly longer. Teen girls who become moms can forget about going out with friends, whether to the movies, to hang out at their favorite restaurant or coffee shop, or anywhere else for that matter. If they do go out, they’ll have to take the baby with them if their parents refuse to babysit. If the baby is sick or very cranky for any number of reasons, girls will end up staying home instead of going out. Girls who are still in middle or high school will find it much harder to do their homework assignments or study for exams when they have to care for a baby as well. It will be a very long time before girls get any of their former freedom back.

LOSS OF SLEEP – The first thing girls have to know about motherhood is that newborn babies do NOT sleep eight hours a night. All mothers, myself included, can honestly say that babies can – and do – wake up during the night as many as two or three times. Each time the baby wakes up, mom has to get up with the baby, feed the baby, change the baby’s diaper (which could be a messy one), and then get the baby back to sleep. When my son was a newborn baby, there were nights where I got NO sleep whatsoever. Luckily for me, I had completed high school and post-high school education long before that, so I didn’t have to get up at 5:00am to go to school after having almost no sleep. Teen moms will not be so lucky.

LOSS OF MONEY – Whatever money a girl used to spend on herself will have to be spent on the baby, and that cost is far more than most girls could begin to anticipate. Estimates on how much it costs to raise a child in the 21st century range anywhere from $500,000 to over $1,000,000, and those figures are probably too low. These costs include food, clothing, baby equipment (car seat, crib, stroller, baby carriers, baby and child toys, etc.) and so much more. Anyone who wants to do the math can begin their research by going to their local grocery store and checking out the baby food and diaper sections. Just make sure you have a notebook and calculator, because you will need to multiply those costs for each item several times per week. That’s just for food and diapers, you haven’t even started on the costs for clothing, baby equipment and toys. That will add a staggering amount to your calculations, and the sum will be far higher than you could imagine. If you plan to put the baby in day care for any amount of time during the week, you will have to add up those costs too. Get the picture now? Having a baby costs a HUGE amount of money, which many girls and young women simply do not have, unless they have wealthy parents.

There is no escaping the fact that becoming a mother makes a girl’s life much harder and she loses most, if not all, of the benefits and comforts she had before she got pregnant. That is another reason why girls would be wise to say a very loud NO to boyfriends who keep pressuring them for sex. No matter what a boyfriend may say, there is NO WAY he can guarantee that sex won’t result in an unwanted pregnancy.
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Feb 13, 2012
 
Well the money must be ok, these teen moms drive some nice cars. I payed 5,000$ for my first used car.
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I don't believe I ever said it was wrong for these girls to do this show, and it could help many other teen girls who are not pregnant at this time to AVOID going down that road. As to whether they're struggling or not, dealing with babies, toddlers and small children in high school sure looks like struggling to ME, no matter what their salaries are.
Also, not every teen girl can quit high school and then get their GED that easily. Even with a good family support network in place, it is still VERY difficult for a teen girl to get studying for a GED test done when she has to care for a baby 24/7. Even if she does get the GED, college or vocational school may be impossible for her because no one in her family can or is willing to watch the baby for her.
A girl's high school and then college or vocational school years is a time when she is better off WITHOUT the responsibilities of motherhood. Being a mother at this time makes it at least ten times HARDER to complete her years of high school and then graduate. Amber and Chelsea have already found that out the hard way.
I didn't as you refer to it, "quit high school and get my GED so easily". The first line of my post was " I know its a struggle".I never said that it was easy to get my GED and I rarely did I have someone watching the baby while I studied to get it either. While I was in college while my son was sleeping I was up all night studying but I put in the hard work to have a better future for us. I don't blame these girls for doing the show because they couldn't make that kind of money doing anything else and I don't feel it is or will harm the children. I do think that it will make some girls take extra precautions for this not to happen but I also think that it will make other girls think if they get pregnant they could end up on MTV, about a one in a million chance.
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I didn't as you refer to it, "quit high school and get my GED so easily". The first line of my post was " I know its a struggle".I never said that it was easy to get my GED and I rarely did I have someone watching the baby while I studied to get it either. While I was in college while my son was sleeping I was up all night studying but I put in the hard work to have a better future for us.
That's great that you could do all this. I was simply pointing out in my previous post that for whatever reasons, some other girls CAN'T do all that you could. The implication from many teen moms seems to be "I did it, so other teen girls can do it too." Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's the impression I got from reading your post. I've read quite a few other posts that are similar on other forums.

Here's a question for you; if you could do it all over again, knowing all the struggles you've experienced, would you still have become a mom while in high school?
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http://www.huliq.com/3257/birth-and-abortion-...

Birth and abortion rates for U.S. teens hit an all-time low
By Michael Santo on 2012-02-08

A new study from the Guttmacher Institute finds that both abortion and birth rates for women aged 15-19 has fallen dramatically, but racial and ethnic differences persist.

U.S. teens are becoming pregnant – and getting abortions – at a record low rate not seen since at least 1972, the study found. And the primary reason for the success is not abstinence, but use of contraceptives.
Unfortunately, racial and ethnic disparities persist, with Black and Hispanic pregnancy and abortion rates two to four times higher than those of whites.

The Guttmacher Institute, the nonprofit sexual health research group that conducted the analysis, looked at government statistics on teen-age sex, pregnancies and births, as well as the institute's own data on abortions for 2008, the most recent year for which the statistics were available.

The numbers showed that 98% of the nearly 750,000 U.S. women between the ages of 15 and 19 became pregnant that year. That translated to a rate of 67.8 pregnancies per 1,000 women in the age group – a rate not seen since 1972, the year before the Supreme Court ruled on Roe vs. Wade.

That also translated to a 42% reduction from a teen pregnancy peak of 116.9 per 1,000 in 1990.

The drop in the rate of abortions for the age group is even more impressive. The data show a rate of 17.8 per 1,000 girls and represents a 59% drop from a teen abortion peak in 1988, when it was 43.5 per 1,000 girls.

The Institute said the impressive drops in teen pregnancy and abortion rates were largely attributable to increased use of contraceptives for both genders. "Teens are also using more effective forms of contraception," said Kathryn Kost, who is a demographer with the Guttmacher Institute and who co-authored the analysis.

She said that about a quarter of the reduction in pregnancy and abortion rates can be attributed to abstinence. In other words, 75% of the rate of reduction can be attributed to better access to more effective contraception.

And even though their rates have dropped, teen pregnancy and abortion remain higher for Black and Hispanic teen girls.

Birth rates for Black and Hispanic teens were twice those of their white peers. Abortion rates for Black teens were four times higher than whites, and twice as high for Hispanics.


So it's possible that shows like TEEN MOM 2 may have had some positive influence after all. Any girl that watches this show or "16 and Pregnant" and decides NOT to take that risk has learned something from being a TM2 viewer.
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<quoted text>I don't believe I ever said it was wrong for these girls to do this show, and it could help many other teen girls who are not pregnant at this time to AVOID going down that road. As to whether they're struggling or not, dealing with babies, toddlers and small children in high school sure looks like struggling to ME, no matter what their salaries are.

Also, not every teen girl can quit high school and then get their GED that easily. Even with a good family support network in place, it is still VERY difficult for a teen girl to get studying for a GED test done when she has to care for a baby 24/7. Even if she does get the GED, college or vocational school may be impossible for her because no one in her family can or is willing to watch the baby for her.

A girl's high school and then college or vocational school years is a time when she is better off WITHOUT the responsibilities of motherhood. Being a mother at this time makes it at least ten times HARDER to complete her years of high school and then graduate. Amber and Chelsea have already found that out the hard way.
Spoken like someone who has never struggled financially. Its always the people that have never had to try and decide which bills to pay and which bills not to pay that thinks money doesnt help lessen a burden. I know money isnt everything, but like it or not you need it to survive.
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That's great that you could do all this. I was simply pointing out in my previous post that for whatever reasons, some other girls CAN'T do all that you could. The implication from many teen moms seems to be "I did it, so other teen girls can do it too." Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's the impression I got from reading your post. I've read quite a few other posts that are similar on other forums.
Here's a question for you; if you could do it all over again, knowing all the struggles you've experienced, would you still have become a mom while in high school?
You are writing long posts to show facts about teen moms and their future. I wrote my post to show if you have had a baby finishing high school and college is still possible. You have to be very motivated to do this. Its great to lecture about prevention, but for those that already have a baby the lecture should be about planning their future. The answer to your question is no, of course I wouldn't change one thing because I love my son and all of the hard work was worth it.
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Spoken like someone who has never struggled financially. Its always the people that have never had to try and decide which bills to pay and which bills not to pay that thinks money doesnt help lessen a burden. I know money isnt everything, but like it or not you need it to survive.
I know very well that one DOES need money to survive, I don't know what I said in my previous post that gave you the impression I didn't.

Could you let me know specifically what I said that gave you that impression? Thanks in advance.

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You are writing long posts to show facts about teen moms and their future. I wrote my post to show if you have had a baby finishing high school and college is still possible. You have to be very motivated to do this. Its great to lecture about prevention, but for those that already have a baby the lecture should be about planning their future. The answer to your question is no, of course I wouldn't change one thing because I love my son and all of the hard work was worth it.
I was writing those posts primarily for the teen girls who are still -- I hope -- NOT pregnant to help them understand what they will lose by having a baby in high school. I would say that the majority of teens don't realize HOW much they will lose until they DO get pregnant and become mothers. At that point, it is obviously too late. I'd like to PREVENT the occurrence of more teen pregnancies, which is why I wrote those long posts.

Regarding your answer; you would REALLY have gotten pregnant as a teen if you had to do it all over again? You wouldn't have waited a few more years until you had graduated from high school and college or vocational school?
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I know why you wrote them. Requarding my answer, I knew you would question my answer. Why would I change it???? If I had my life to do over again and knowing what I know now even after how hard the road was to get here I would NOT change it if it meant not having my son. I am very happy with the life I have and blessed to have it and every goal I have set for myself I have met with hard work. I believe in the butterfly effect so I wouldn't change a single thing. That doesn't mean I am suggesting other teens do the same, but if they end up in the same situation, its not the end of the world and they can still do something with their lives. Make the best out of the situation, work hard, and love your children.
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I know why you wrote them. Requarding my answer, I knew you would question my answer. Why would I change it???? If I had my life to do over again and knowing what I know now even after how hard the road was to get here I would NOT change it if it meant not having my son. I am very happy with the life I have and blessed to have it and every goal I have set for myself I have met with hard work. I believe in the butterfly effect so I wouldn't change a single thing. That doesn't mean I am suggesting other teens do the same, but if they end up in the same situation, its not the end of the world and they can still do something with their lives. Make the best out of the situation, work hard, and love your children.
So if you had it to do all over again, you're saying you would have had sex, gotten pregnant and become a teen mother all over again, even knowing what you know now. Wow. I find that very sad, but thankfully, other teen girls CAN make a different choice.

I would like to see all teen girls AVOID that situation of getting pregnant when they are still in high school and end up becoming mothers and risk LOSING their chance of having a high school and college/vocational education. It is very difficult, and in some cases impossible, to finish all the levels of their education when they have to care for a baby 24/7. Two teen moms on the show, Amber and Chelsea, found out how HARD it was to get their GED after they had to drop out of high school. If they hadn't become teen moms, they probably would have graduated high school and the GED wouldn't have been necessary.

Completing high school, college, or vocational is much less of a challenge when a girl and later young woman DOESN'T have the 24/7 responsibilities of motherhood to cope with.
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I got so frustrated when I saw the show the other night, Corey works so hard and has really been a great dad, he is a nice looking guy and would be a great catch for any woman. He seems to love his family, most guys in his situation would have hit the road running when they found out he was having twins. Leah cried all night on the show but she brought all this on herself, she should have been devoted to him from the start, not just after the marriage. Her mom gave her money to help her get a trailer and then you see her on there getting her a pedicure and she's always getting something done to herself. That makes me sick, if she would save some of that beauty money she spends on herself, her mom may not have to help her.
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So if you had it to do all over again, you're saying you would have had sex, gotten pregnant and become a teen mother all over again, even knowing what you know now. Wow. I find that very sad, but thankfully, other teen girls CAN make a different choice.
I would like to see all teen girls AVOID that situation of getting pregnant when they are still in high school and end up becoming mothers and risk LOSING their chance of having a high school and college/vocational education. It is very difficult, and in some cases impossible, to finish all the levels of their education when they have to care for a baby 24/7. Two teen moms on the show, Amber and Chelsea, found out how HARD it was to get their GED after they had to drop out of high school. If they hadn't become teen moms, they probably would have graduated high school and the GED wouldn't have been necessary.
Completing high school, college, or vocational is much less of a challenge when a girl and later young woman DOESN'T have the 24/7 responsibilities of motherhood to cope with.
You are insane and just looking for a fight. There is nothing sad about not regretting having my son but then again I am sure you already knew what my answer would be and you could continue to down me for not wanting to change it. Like I said I'm not promoting teens having babies. Just so you know its not hard to get a GED and please quit repeating yourself. Everyone knows it is much harder to complete school with a baby its not a news flash and of course it would be better to avoid having a baby.

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