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I am glad someone is listening! I hope their lives arent ever exposed on the web or blogs. We live in a sick world.

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN wrote:

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I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID, BUT AS YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE WILL STAY IN THEIR BELIEFS AND WAYS!

You know she didnt write to the Bishop! She would look awful stupid to send a letter with proof that Jamal Bryant is a HO. That's why he is still in his same position because no one can provide proof that these things have happened. Bianca's baby died and now they want to give the girl twins! This is unreal. No one can produce a birth certificate and the State of Maryland Vital Records Department doesnt have these children names on file. What else do you need?????

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN wrote:

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I SAID GO AND MAKE APPOINTMENT WITH HIM I OR THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY SEND OUT EMAILS!! THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS NOW WE DO WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT INSTEAD OF WHAT GOD SAYS. HE SAYS IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR BROTHER OR SISTER YOU GO TO HIM NOT SEND EMAILS. AND AGAIN WHO ARE YOU TO CALL A MINISTRY OF GOD A HOING VALID SPORT. I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS!!!

C'Mon yall. I mean are we REALLY still talking about this topic. Really. This is sick. Let's go save some blood member in the city from shooting another person.

Losers on the Internet wrote:

C'Mon yall. I mean are we REALLY still talking about this topic. Really. This is sick. Let's go save some blood member in the city from shooting another person.

Has it ever occur to you that maybe because the church is out of order, this is why we have the problems in our city? It may not seem like it but the church is and will always be the highest form of government in the earth - and when the church is out of order then everything is out of order. When the church tolerates fornication, adultery, lying, stealing, homosexuality, etc..., then God removes his covering off of situations. I'm really curious to know, is some of you reading the word of God with understanding or for what you want to get out of it? Because the word of God simply tells us to openly rebuke so that others may fear. I'm not just speaking of JHB, I hope that he truly repented and got himself together. Why does Kenneth Copeland - National Evangelist have a problem with sharing his financial records with auditors. He made the statement,“It is not yours, it is God's, and you are not going to get it,” when he was asked to submit his ministry's private financial records to Washington. If he wasn’t doing anything wrong or crooked with the money then he would not have a problem sharing his financial records. There are scriptures in the word of God that instructs us to expose crooks and other raving wolves. A lot of preachers such as Joel Osteen don’t want to preach on sin because if the truth be told, they don’t want to lose members or money. Too many preachers are in it for the wrong reason. The word of God is not always suppose to make you feel good, especially if you’re in sin. If you read Matthews 10:34, Jesus simply stated “Don’t think that I came to bring peace on this earth; I did not come to bring peace but a sword!” Read verses 35-40 on your spare time. I’m not here to condemn anyone, but we can judge righteously, according to the word of God. Now, If I do anything out of the will of God, then yes, it should be expose “just like the apostle Paul states in the word” so that others would fear. Be Blessed!

The Truth wrote:

I am glad someone is listening! I hope their lives arent ever exposed on the web or blogs. We live in a sick world.<quoted text>

Then don't do anything where your life will be fodder for the internet

IF Jamal kept his ding dong in his pants, he would not be the subject of demands for his firing,

The ho of Baltimo bought it on hisself

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN wrote:

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I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID, BUT AS YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE WILL STAY IN THEIR BELIEFS AND WAYS!

The only belief I have is the word of God. If you read most of my blogs, I barely even mention Jamal Bryant, because its not about him, it's about God's word being manifested in the earth. You have too many other so-called pastors out here going against the word of God. The bible tells us to openly rebuke and to beware of false prophets. If we have a problem with being openly rebuked that then don't do anything contrary to God's word.

II Chronicles 7:14 - "If My People which are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray, seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then (and only then) will God hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal the land!" We can fast, pray - but there are some things that God has given us the power to do.

Even at my church, after you have been warned several times and you want to continue sinning, then you're brought to the trustee board. If it continues, then you're brought to the whole church - if not changed afterwards then we can no longer fellowship with you. The Bible tells us not to fellowship with sinners.

People truly think that because we're living in grace that God is only merciful and kind. WRONG! He's also a God of wrath! You better wake up. God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

The Truth wrote:

You know she didnt write to the Bishop! She would look awful stupid to send a letter with proof that Jamal Bryant is a HO. That's why he is still in his same position because no one can provide proof that these things have happened. Bianca's baby died and now they want to give the girl twins! This is unreal. No one can produce a birth certificate and the State of Maryland Vital Records Department doesnt have these children names on file. What else do you need?????<quoted text>

I did to write to the Bishop. Jamal's Denying his kid, and cheating them out of child support is enough to get him fired. If he is going to cheat his kids, then how will he treat a stranger'

You can not get that information from vital records.

Belive what you wish

Keep defending and supporting the Ho of Baltimo.

The man needs to go. He is a sad excuse for a human being. m

His wife is suing him for adultery. Do you need any more proof to show that he has disqualified himself as Pastor.

The Book of Timothy defines what a Pastor should be. And common sense as well. A Pastor should be above reproach.

Jamal exploits his congregation to live in tacky million dollar houses and drive Bentleys

We are all subject to fall if we don't stay connected to christ. Please don't comment on this man, because our junk haven't been exposed. Yes he's a pastor but more importantly has empowerment temple been holding him up in prayer before the fall?

JAMES 1
Our Evil Desires

13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.

15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

James 3
Teachers Strictly Judged

1Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

2We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.

2 Timothy 4
Itching Ears

3“For a time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.

4Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

4b. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”

Brent,
I usually enjoy your posts. However, this particular post is, in your own words, "out of order."
First, the financial records of any church are none of anyone's business.(except for those who attend and/or frequently donate to that church) Churches are not receiving federal subsidies. Additionally, if you don't like Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Joel Osteen, as difficult as it may appear for you, you can turn the channel. It's just that simple!
Secondly, I wonder if you complain as much about congressional members who receive kickbacks, bribes and everything else ON YOUR DIME. Do you see the irony here? You don't support Olsteen or Copeland's ministry yet you want to know what they do with their finances - then on the opposite end of the spectrum, every time you get paid, you federal tax dollars are being wasted and misused. Yet, you don't lift a pinky to complain about it. Before you attempt to use the ridiculous argument that your denomination does not permit you to engage in "political" affairs - Dr. King and MANY others took their faith and put it to work. In other words, they understood their calling, they understood the times, and most importantly they practiced what they preached.
Third, your comment about "sinners" and "not fellowshipping" with them goes against what Jesus, taught, lived and preached. "Your church" has the mindset of modern day Pharisees. How in the name of all things Holy are going to witness to "sinners" if you don't fellowship with them? This is what keeps most people out of the church.....good grief
I pray you wake and receive the real revelation of God's love, grace and mercy AND then put it into practice.
Peace & Blessings

Brent wrote:

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Has it ever occur to you that maybe because the church is out of order, this is why we have the problems in our city? It may not seem like it but the church is and will always be the highest form of government in the earth - and when the church is out of order then everything is out of order. When the church tolerates fornication, adultery, lying, stealing, homosexuality, etc..., then God removes his covering off of situations. I'm really curious to know, is some of you reading the word of God with understanding or for what you want to get out of it? Because the word of God simply tells us to openly rebuke so that others may fear. I'm not just speaking of JHB, I hope that he truly repented and got himself together. Why does Kenneth Copeland - National Evangelist have a problem with sharing his financial records with auditors. He made the statement,“It is not yours, it is God's, and you are not going to get it,” when he was asked to submit his ministry's private financial records to Washington. If he wasn’t doing anything wrong or crooked with the money then he would not have a problem sharing his financial records. There are scriptures in the word of God that instructs us to expose crooks and other raving wolves. A lot of preachers such as Joel Osteen don’t want to preach on sin because if the truth be told, they don’t want to lose members or money. Too many preachers are in it for the wrong reason. The word of God is not always suppose to make you feel good, especially if you’re in sin. If you read Matthews 10:34, Jesus simply stated “Don’t think that I came to bring peace on this earth; I did not come to bring peace but a sword!” Read verses 35-40 on your spare time. I’m not here to condemn anyone, but we can judge righteously, according to the word of God. Now, If I do anything out of the will of God, then yes, it should be expose “just like the apostle Paul states in the word” so that others would fear. Be Blessed!

Pretty Eyes wrote:

Brent,
I usually enjoy your posts. However, this particular post is, in your own words, "out of order."
First, the financial records of any church are none of anyone's business.(except for those who attend and/or frequently donate to that church) Churches are not receiving federal subsidies. Additionally, if you don't like Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Joel Osteen, as difficult as it may appear for you, you can turn the channel. It's just that simple!
Secondly, I wonder if you complain as much about congressional members who receive kickbacks, bribes and everything else ON YOUR DIME. Do you see the irony here? You don't support Olsteen or Copeland's ministry yet you want to know what they do with their finances - then on the opposite end of the spectrum, every time you get paid, you federal tax dollars are being wasted and misused. Yet, you don't lift a pinky to complain about it. Before you attempt to use the ridiculous argument that your denomination does not permit you to engage in "political" affairs - Dr. King and MANY others took their faith and put it to work. In other words, they understood their calling, they understood the times, and most importantly they practiced what they preached.
Third, your comment about "sinners" and "not fellowshipping" with them goes against what Jesus, taught, lived and preached. "Your church" has the mindset of modern day Pharisees. How in the name of all things Holy are going to witness to "sinners" if you don't fellowship with them? This is what keeps most people out of the church.....good grief
I pray you wake and receive the real revelation of God's love, grace and mercy AND then put it into practice.
Peace & Blessings
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I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I don't have anything against any of these preachers. What I simply stated was why does he have a problem with the government doing an audit with the finances of his ministry! Personally, I don't want to know what his ministry brings in. We must obey the laws that was established in the land. Every now and then they do random audits on churches and what I stated was that if his records are accurate, then what was the problem. Secondly you stated Joel Osteen. He is a great inspirational preacher, but when a person makes the statement that they have a problem preaching against sin then that is a problem. The other statement is that you talked about fellowshipping with sinners. You do everything you can to help witness salvation to a non-believer, but if they still don't want to do whats right then yes the bible tells us not to fellowship with them. Read the words of the Apostle Paul. Please tell me in your own words, what do you think it means when the bible tells us not to be un-equally yoked! Yes, God is merciful, kind and loving towards us, but what about his wrath which we often forget! I know we may not agree on everything but if you're a believer then lets reason with one another like the word says.

Pretty Eyes wrote:

Brent,
I usually enjoy your posts. However, this particular post is, in your own words, "out of order."
First, the financial records of any church are none of anyone's business.(except for those who attend and/or frequently donate to that church) Churches are not receiving federal subsidies. Additionally, if you don't like Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, Joel Osteen, as difficult as it may appear for you, you can turn the channel. It's just that simple!
Secondly, I wonder if you complain as much about congressional members who receive kickbacks, bribes and everything else ON YOUR DIME. Do you see the irony here? You don't support Olsteen or Copeland's ministry yet you want to know what they do with their finances - then on the opposite end of the spectrum, every time you get paid, you federal tax dollars are being wasted and misused. Yet, you don't lift a pinky to complain about it. Before you attempt to use the ridiculous argument that your denomination does not permit you to engage in "political" affairs - Dr. King and MANY others took their faith and put it to work. In other words, they understood their calling, they understood the times, and most importantly they practiced what they preached.
Third, your comment about "sinners" and "not fellowshipping" with them goes against what Jesus, taught, lived and preached. "Your church" has the mindset of modern day Pharisees. How in the name of all things Holy are going to witness to "sinners" if you don't fellowship with them? This is what keeps most people out of the church.....good grief
I pray you wake and receive the real revelation of God's love, grace and mercy AND then put it into practice.
Peace & Blessings
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I just re-read you're post. Most of what is keeping people out of church is because they see people coming to church living one way and leaving living another way. If you say you are a beliver then live holy 24/7. It's just that simple. I do support ministries that are in alignment with the word of God. Bishop Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar you have never seen me wrote anything negative about - how did there names come about!

4 TV ministries won't comply with probe
Posted on Jul 25, 2008 | by Staff

WASHINGTON (BP)--Four television ministries still have refused to comply fully with a U.S. Senate committee's probe into their financial records nearly nine months after first being asked.

The ministries of Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long and Randy and Paula White have provided only partial information or none at all, said Sen. Charles Grassley, R.-Iowa, who initiated the investigation by requesting information from six televangelists in early November.

The ministries of Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer, however, gave "extensive answers to all questions," Grassley said.
Grassley's questions of the televangelists were based on accounts of abuses from watchdog organizations and whistleblowers, as well as investigative news reports, he has said.

Accusations of contributions being used to support lavish lifestyles have been leveled against at least some of the televangelists.
In a news release, the minority leader on the Senate Finance Committee said of the noncompliant televangelists:
-- Copeland has provided partial answers to a majority of questions but nothing on inquiries about compensation. He has said he will not give further answers even if served a subpoena.
-- Dollar has refused to provide any responses, and attorneys for his church said the televangelist has not changed his mind.

-- Long has given only general information on his ministry.
-- The Whites have submitted answers only on certain matters.
Finance Committee staff members are communicating with lawyers for the ministries in an attempt to gain responses, Grassley said. In Copeland's case, the staff is seeking advice from Senate lawyers on what should be done next, Grassley said.

"The ministries that continue not to cooperate appear to be heeding the advice of attorneys who are not familiar with congressional oversight in general and specifically the Finance Committee's oversight and legislative work in the area of tax-exempt organizations over the last seven years," Grassley said in the July 7 release. "These attorneys who aren't part of the ministries themselves have a natural incentive to prolong the process as long as possible."

Grassley commended Meyer and Hinn, saying they had "provided information over and above what was requested." Both televangelists have communicated they are "instituting reforms without waiting for the committee to complete its review," he said.

4 TV ministries won't comply with probe

In his initial request, Grassley asked the televangelists to provide personal and ministry-related financial records. Sen. Max Baucus, D.-Mont., the Finance Committee's chairman, joined Grassley March 11 in calling for the ministries to cooperate. They set a March 31 deadline for compliance.

All the televangelists targeted by the committee are identified with the "word of faith" movement, Copeland has said on his ministry's website. "Word of faith" teaching normally includes the "prosperity gospel," which asserts that the Bible promises physical and financial blessings to followers of Christ. Evangelical critics of the teaching, however, say such doctrine mistakenly equates God's promises of blessing with temporal, materialistic success.

The founder of a watchdog organization said the noncompliance of televangelists such as Copeland and Dollar appears to be prompting Grassley to consider further regulation of nonprofit ministries.

"Religious conservatives, like ourselves, believe this to be an unfortunate development, but if donors do not insist on even greater levels of ministry cooperation with donor advocate [organizations], unneeded government regulation is sure to follow," Rusty Leonard of MinistryWatch.com said in a written statement.

"It has been donors' willingness to ignore the clear warning signs from a relatively few questionable ministries that will partly cause any increased government oversight," Leonard said. "The ministry community's unwillingness to call out those who are simultaneously abusing donors, the Word of God and current government regulations through meaningful self-policing also [is] to blame for any burdensome new regulations."

Letters on behalf of Copeland and Dollar were sent March 31 to inform members of the Senate Finance Committee of the noncompliance, saying it was based in part on the targeting of teachers from the "word of faith" movement. The lawyers said Copeland and Dollar not only objected to the investigation's potential infringement of the First Amendment's protection of free religious exercise but also the senators' failure to operate through the current process provided by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
Both ministries said they would comply with an examination by the IRS under the protections it provides.

Romans 13
Submission to the Authorities

1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.

4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.

7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Love, for the Day is Near

8Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.

9The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet,"[a] and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."[b]

10Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

I believe he should step down for a long while, there is still thing to deal with like anyone of us including me, however when ones reach such high ground in stature like Pastor Jamal he has to go low for God to elevate him again.

Brent wrote:

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I just re-read you're post. Most of what is keeping people out of church is because they see people coming to church living one way and leaving living another way. If you say you are a beliver then live holy 24/7. It's just that simple. I do support ministries that are in alignment with the word of God. Bishop Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar you have never seen me wrote anything negative about - how did there names come about!

We agree on the issue that most people stay out of some churches because they see people SAYING ONE THING and living another way. That's not GOD!!!

I apologize if I offended you, but I tend to get on my "soapbox" when people speak against my Pastor....lol....(Creflo A. Dollar, Jr.)

He was mentioned in the letter that Sen. Grassley sent out to Kenneth Copeland, et al.

Peace & Blessings

Brent wrote:

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I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I don't have anything against any of these preachers. What I simply stated was why does he have a problem with the government doing an audit with the finances of his ministry! Personally, I don't want to know what his ministry brings in. We must obey the laws that was established in the land. Every now and then they do random audits on churches and what I stated was that if his records are accurate, then what was the problem. Secondly you stated Joel Osteen. He is a great inspirational preacher, but when a person makes the statement that they have a problem preaching against sin then that is a problem. The other statement is that you talked about fellowshipping with sinners. You do everything you can to help witness salvation to a non-believer, but if they still don't want to do whats right then yes the bible tells us not to fellowship with them. Read the words of the Apostle Paul. Please tell me in your own words, what do you think it means when the bible tells us not to be un-equally yoked! Yes, God is merciful, kind and loving towards us, but what about his wrath which we often forget! I know we may not agree on everything but if you're a believer then lets reason with one another like the word says.

Remember that Paul was talking to the church in Corinth. The people of Corinth were in disunity and immorality.(i.e, they lost their minds and were seriously trippin') After hearing the message of Jesus Christ some people still rejected him. This is why the Apostle Paul warns us against being unequally yoke with unbelievers.

Anyone who rejects Jesus is going to hell - plain and simple. Sin is not what sends you to hell. It is rejection of Jesus, the Anointed One and His Anointing that will send a person to hell.

Please do not misunderstand what I'm saying regarding sin. I'm not saying that living a sinful life will not send you to hell. What I'm saying is that rejection of Jesus and rejection of Holiness and righteousness will send you to hell.

Peace & Blessings

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN wrote:

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I SAID GO AND MAKE APPOINTMENT WITH HIM I OR THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY SEND OUT EMAILS!! THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS NOW WE DO WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT INSTEAD OF WHAT GOD SAYS. HE SAYS IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR BROTHER OR SISTER YOU GO TO HIM NOT SEND EMAILS. AND AGAIN WHO ARE YOU TO CALL A MINISTRY OF GOD A HOING VALID SPORT. I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS!!!

I am a consumer of religious services. I am a Christian. As such, I expect any minister to live up to teh very simple requirements set forth in the Bible by Timothy, and by common senses

Jamal is a piece of trash. He needs to be fired. There is nothing he can say or do that would make me change my mind.

The only way he can demonstrate repentence is by having years of not hoing around, and no out of wedlock babies.

Since Bianca is pregnant again, the years of demonstrating positive behavior has not stated yet.

Stop making excuses for Jamal, the Ho of Baltimo. YOu probably would not tolerate that behavior from your brother, cousin, or buddy, so why tolerate hoish behavior from a Minsiter

Minsters are to be trusted and above reproach. Start requiring any minister you support to behave appropriately.

And just because some one who can stand before people and talk, does not make him a minister. Other wise rappes would be ministers.

Wait a minute. Think about it. Kanye West, Ludicrous, Snoop Doggy Dog, and other scandalous rappers show more minsiterial behavior than Jamal.