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Jul 3, 2008
 
m hamilton wrote:
I don't think that is a good idea..Warning people,yes..Public information,yes.Maybe a block meeting ? Coming begore 10 pm and knocking..yes. But entering a home at 3 a.m.? As heavy as I sleep I would have a heart attack finding a police officer in my bedroom.Then I would be outraged.
Thank you! I agree.
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smrtbaby,
I would suggest you read the following:
Declaration of Independence
Bill of Rights
Constitutions

You have to first understand the difference between rights and priviliges, if you do you will understand what this is really all about and why people are so upset.
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what does the declaration of independence have to do with any of this?
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Troy Molde wrote:
smrtbaby,
I would suggest you read the following:
Declaration of Independence
Bill of Rights
Constitutions
You have to first understand the difference between rights and priviliges, if you do you will understand what this is really all about and why people are so upset.
Ok. Did that. Now are you going to answer me or just keep throwing random thoughts to try to evade the question? Ahhhhh. That is why you are no longer married. Lack of communication. This would be a good place to learn how. Try it. You might actually benefit from it and others may benefit also. Even me.
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u r still here,
This is a question worth answering and something worth discussing. The declaration of independence is about declaring we have unalienable rights. We the people secured those rights in the constitution, such as the 4th amendment.

smrtbaby,
Im ignoring you, you bring nothing but personal attacks and no value to this discusion.
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Troy Molde wrote:
u r still here,
This is a question worth answering and something worth discussing. The declaration of independence is about declaring we have unalienable rights. We the people secured those rights in the constitution, such as the 4th amendment.
smrtbaby,
Im ignoring you, you bring nothing but personal attacks and no value to this discusion.
Troy, Troy, Troy, You are not ignoring me and if you would actually read my blogs you would see that they DO have value and merit. And others have agreed with me. I have also agreed with you and others that the cops could have found a better way. No personal attacks, just questions so that we may all understand what you were thinking. You just do not like the fact that my problem with this situation is your parenting. Go back and read the blogs. You tell me to read. Take your own medicine young man and get well.
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Troy, since you presume to be an expert on the constitution, you should know that we have freedom of speech. We do not have to agree with everybody, but it is a wise individual that gets his knowledge from many sources. Even ones that we do not want to listen to, such as our parents, teachers, or other authority. Instead of bucking the system, use the system to your advantage. Did I just see the lightbulb go on?
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#795
Jul 4, 2008
 
Happy 4th of July. Independence Day! This is a good day to reflect on how we can have our freedom and independence in a dependent and controlling world.
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#796
Jul 4, 2008
 
Troy Molde wrote:
u r still here,
This is a question worth answering and something worth discussing. The declaration of independence is about declaring we have unalienable rights. We the people secured those rights in the constitution, such as the 4th amendment.
smrtbaby,
Im ignoring you, you bring nothing but personal attacks and no value to this discusion.
So by your own admission our rights are secured by the US Constitution. Not by the Declaration of Independence. The interpretation of the Constitution as it applies in your case is not just as simple as reading the the document in question. There is case law and past precedent that the court takes in to consideration.
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u r still here wrote:
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So by your own admission our rights are secured by the US Constitution. Not by the Declaration of Independence. The interpretation of the Constitution as it applies in your case is not just as simple as reading the the document in question. There is case law and past precedent that the court takes in to consideration.
Spoken like a true attourner, stare Decisis is not law, it is the commerce of it. Now go away and lick the hand that feeds you.
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AndrewEss wrote:
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Spoken like a true attourner, stare Decisis is not law, it is the commerce of it. Now go away and lick the hand that feeds you.
I should apologize. I assumed that folks that posted here would understand that interpreting the Constitution as it applies to specific rights we have is more complicated than just reading the document(s) in question. Apparently I was wrong.

I forgot the lowest common denominator was present.
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#799
Jul 6, 2008
 
From the MN Constitution:

Sec. 10. UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES PROHIBITED. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated; and no warrant shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the person or things to be seized.

If anyone feels insecure after an untimely visit from the local PD, then their feeling of security has been violated. Isn't it really just that black and white? The courts only see black and white so this should be easy.
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u r still here ~ Would I believe indicate otherwise, if I may be so bold as to speak on his behalf. I am afraid we have a deluded monolithic stalin believer telling us that we should offer those words up for interpretation. Perhaps one day after a good slapping of the bible upside the head and the constitution up the other side, his voice will not dissent to the weight of silver that lines the pockets. It is the lowest denominator, which also brings the legal concept of denomination, that is another story and I suppose another interpretation. You see the problem is when you start to bandy with words, it gets a whole lot more confusing. Even in pig latin and escariotizm.
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AndrewEss wrote:
u r still here ~ Would I believe indicate otherwise, if I may be so bold as to speak on his behalf. I am afraid we have a deluded monolithic stalin believer telling us that we should offer those words up for interpretation. Perhaps one day after a good slapping of the bible upside the head and the constitution up the other side, his voice will not dissent to the weight of silver that lines the pockets. It is the lowest denominator, which also brings the legal concept of denomination, that is another story and I suppose another interpretation. You see the problem is when you start to bandy with words, it gets a whole lot more confusing. Even in pig latin and escariotizm.
English please?
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Jul 6, 2008
 
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English please?
Sorry you must have missed the cartoon section, that stops at 7.30 pm. Night night time for LOL's, mommy might not like it.
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Jul 6, 2008
 
AndrewEss wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry you must have missed the cartoon section, that stops at 7.30 pm. Night night time for LOL's, mommy might not like it.
The fact I cannot understand your gibberish means I am a child???
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The fact I cannot understand your gibberish means I am a child???
I think he is a goof ball, too. Just ignore his ranting. If he wants anyone to understand him, he will have to learn how to communicate. He thinks he is a genius, but his gibberish says he is a moron.
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I think he is a goof ball, too. Just ignore his ranting. If he wants anyone to understand him, he will have to learn how to communicate. He thinks he is a genius, but his gibberish says he is a moron.
Must be the water
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Don't drink the water!!!
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<quoted text> Thank you so much for the compliments coming from you I am so blessed and will immediately take note that I have heard from another daughter of betty freidan. We have so many of you it must be a new religion. Please make your point, as obviously asking any questions would not be in your repetoire of skills. As others have pointed out, time to get off the pot, you have not said anything in your last 100 posts, you are tiresome and from hence shall be ignored by me too. Night night.
LOL you need to read, ask, clarify or go away. I can play sniper troll too ! But do understand that making silver out of other people is the easy part, that is what this country is built on. There is a difference between those who have the stomach for it, and what they worship.
If any of you "Snipers" (Excellent description of Smrtbaby/City woman type of posters) need an interpetation of Andrews' retort.....just ask.
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