BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Frank

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wojar wrote:
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RU on drugs? You think hospitals kept records for all staff on duty in 1961?
What planet RU from?
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It is very likely that Barack Obama was born in June. He is extremely dishonest.

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LRS wrote:
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Absolutely! You're looking more and more moronic.
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For 50 years? UR an idiot.
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RU on drugs? You think hospitals kept records for all staff on duty in 1961?
What planet RU from?

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You dumbshat, you think they just let the staff rove about and do what they want? Idiot!
Huh? You really think hospitals kept records for staff on duty for 50 years? RU on LSD? Have you ever heard of retention schedules?

UR an idiot.
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RU on drugs? You think hospitals kept records for all staff on duty in 1961?
What planet RU from?
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The US Government can not takeaway Obama's citizenship to the country of his father, unless he chooses to be naturalized.
Of course a naturalized person can not become POTUS, but their children can.
Obama is not a US citizen, never has been. From the moment of birth, Jr. was a citizen of his father's country.
One can not be subject to the jurisdiction (US Constitution) of the United States, when he is a citizen of another country.

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You dumbshat, you think they just let the staff rove about and do what they want? Idiot!
You think they kept the records for 50 years?

Which orderly threw out the afterbirth after the Nordyke twins were born? Who swept the floors?

Jagoff.

Why isn't the janitor claiming that he was there when the Nordyke twins were born?

Enquiring idiots need to know!

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Frank wrote:
<quoted text>It is very likely that Barack Obama was born in June. He is extremely dishonest.
That's not what DOH says. DOH is not Obama. Sorry.

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Old Goat wrote:
The US Government can not takeaway Obama's citizenship to the country of his father, unless he chooses to be naturalized.
Of course a naturalized person can not become POTUS, but their children can.
Obama is not a US citizen, never has been. From the moment of birth, Jr. was a citizen of his father's country.
One can not be subject to the jurisdiction (US Constitution) of the United States, when he is a citizen of another country.
RU having a nice trip?
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You think they kept the records for 50 years?
Which orderly threw out the afterbirth after the Nordyke twins were born? Who swept the floors?
Jagoff.
Why isn't the janitor claiming that he was there when the Nordyke twins were born?
Enquiring idiots need to know!
Let's see Mr. Mojo Risin', so you not only think there would be no staff records but also, everyone is now dead. Is that about your stance? Plus, if anyone is still alive they wouldn't recall anything about this. Is that correct?
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RU having a nice trip?
Just curious, do you have a drug problem?

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Old Goat wrote:
The US Government can not takeaway Obama's citizenship to the country of his father, unless he chooses to be naturalized.
Of course a naturalized person can not become POTUS, but their children can.
Obama is not a US citizen, never has been. From the moment of birth, Jr. was a citizen of his father's country.
One can not be subject to the jurisdiction (US Constitution) of the United States, when he is a citizen of another country.
Sorry, loser, a born (in the US) citizen is born a citizen, natural born. A born citizen cannot be naturalized. From the moment of birth his natural allegiance was to The United States of America.

Natural allegiance is the allegiance that each and every citizen owes to his/her nation. It generally arises from membership by birth within a political society. Natural allegiance and obedience is an incident inseparable to every native-born citizen, because as soon as the citizen is born, s/he owes allegiance and obedience to the Sovereign.

"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States. This is the rule of the common law, without any regard or reference to the political condition or allegiance of their parents, with the exception of the children of ambassadors, who are in theory born within the allegiance of the foreign power they represent.... "
Chancellor James Kent, 2 Kent Com.(6th ed.) 39, 42."

Sorry, Loser.

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Let's see Mr. Mojo Risin', so you not only think there would be no staff records but also, everyone is now dead. Is that about your stance? Plus, if anyone is still alive they wouldn't recall anything about this. Is that correct?
"wouldn't recall anything about this"

So you think the parking lot attendant should have noticed that Ann was carrying the future POTUS on her way to the delivery room?

RU on LSD?

Who else do you think should recall the birth, knowing that the child was destined to be POTUS?

MORON.
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You think they kept the records for 50 years?
Which orderly threw out the afterbirth after the Nordyke twins were born? Who swept the floors?
Jagoff.
Why isn't the janitor claiming that he was there when the Nordyke twins were born?
Enquiring idiots need to know!
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Sorry, loser, a born (in the US) citizen is born a citizen, natural born. A born citizen cannot be naturalized. From the moment of birth his natural allegiance was to The United States of America.
Natural allegiance is the allegiance that each and every citizen owes to his/her nation. It generally arises from membership by birth within a political society. Natural allegiance and obedience is an incident inseparable to every native-born citizen, because as soon as the citizen is born, s/he owes allegiance and obedience to the Sovereign.
"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States. This is the rule of the common law, without any regard or reference to the political condition or allegiance of their parents, with the exception of the children of ambassadors, who are in theory born within the allegiance of the foreign power they represent.... "
Chancellor James Kent, 2 Kent Com.(6th ed.) 39, 42."
Sorry, Loser.
All natural born are Natives......

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NOT all natives, are "natural born....!

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Another sad day to be a birther.
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in the past 10 years there has been 46000 reported cases of UFOs and aliens to the government.

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As to my integrity, Mr. President, I can only say that it is a matter of record and it compares somewhat to the foresighted spirit with which you, by every ingenuity known to statecraft, wrested from the American Congress those weapons which are today the Nation's great defense in this crisis. I can also reflect that in a time of great complacency and ignorance I tried to do those things which as a Christian I knew to be right. As a fugitive from the Gestapo I warned France through the press that Hitler would invade her that year. The people of England I warned by the same means that the so-called "solution" of Munich was a myth that would bring terrible consequences. On my arrival in America I at once informed the press that Hitler would loose his Frankenstein on civilization that year. Although nobody paid any attention to what I said, I continued to lecture and write in America. Now the time for writing and talking has passed and I am mindful only of the great debt my mother and I owe to the United States. More than anything else I would like to see active combat as soon as possible and thereby be accepted by my friends and comrades as one of them in this great struggle for liberty.
Your favorable decision on my appeal alone would ensure that continued benevolent spirit on the part of the American people, which today I feel so much a part of. I most respectfully assure you, Mr. President, that as in the past I would do my utmost in the future to be worthy of the great honour I am seeking through your kind aid, in the sure knowledge that my endeavors on behalf of the great principles of Democracy will at least bear favourable comparison to the activities of many individuals who for so long have been unworthy of the fine privilege of calling themselves Americans. May I therefore venture to hope, Mr. President, that in the turmoil of this vast conflict you will not be moved to reject my appeal for reasons which I am in no way responsible?
For me today there could be no greater honour, Mr. President, to have lived and to have been allowed to serve you, the deliverer of the American people from want, and no greater privelege then to have striven and had a small part in establishing the title you once will bear in posterity as the greatest Emancipator of suffering mankind in political history.
I would be most happy to give any additional information that might be required and I take the liberty of enclosing a circular containing details about myself.
Permit me, Mr. President, to express my heartfelt good wishes for your future health and happiness, coupled with the hope that you may soon lead all men who believe in decencey everywhere onward and upward to a glorious victory.
I am,
Very respectfully yours,
Patrick Hitler
Interesting yes but old news

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American Lady wrote:
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All natural born are Natives......
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NOT all natives, are "natural born....!
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Every native-born citizen is a natural born citizen.

That has never been doubted (except by birfoons.)

There has never been any such thing as a native-born citizen not natural born, born in ordinary times. Not per Vattel, nor common law.

UR living in a dream world. UR making up law to suit your fantasy.

Every person born a citizen in a country (not during a revolution) is a natural born citizen.
wojar wrote:
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Sorry, loser, a born (in the US) citizen is born a citizen, natural born. A born citizen cannot be naturalized. From the moment of birth his natural allegiance was to The United States of America.
Natural allegiance is the allegiance that each and every citizen owes to his/her nation. It generally arises from membership by birth within a political society. Natural allegiance and obedience is an incident inseparable to every native-born citizen, because as soon as the citizen is born, s/he owes allegiance and obedience to the Sovereign.
"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States. This is the rule of the common law, without any regard or reference to the political condition or allegiance of their parents, with the exception of the children of ambassadors, who are in theory born within the allegiance of the foreign power they represent.... "
Chancellor James Kent, 2 Kent Com.(6th ed.) 39, 42."
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Did Common Law Really Grant Automatic US Citizenship Upon Birth Regardless Of Parentage?

Posted by constitutionallyspeaking on January 15, 2010

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Now a question to all those progressive legal experts & so-called conservative constitutional lawyers out there.

How is it that you can expertly claim that the US adopted some form of common law that automatically granted US citizenship to any child born on US soil; when clearly, as the government archives show, the laws of the day state otherwise? Your claims that the US has always granted US citizenship upon birth on US soil is utterly & completely…

BUSTED!

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com...
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August 2, 2012
No Thanks, We'll Do It Our Way
By Jim Yardley

The Founding Fathers are usually credited with designing the nation as a republic when they drafted the Constitution. Some insist that the nation be described as a democratic republic.

But it might be even more accurate to say that they created a federal democratic republic. By creating a federal system, the founders also created a mechanism that has prevented a second American Revolution for nearly 240 years.

Each of the "several states" is independent; they can create their own laws, set their own taxes, and generally ignore the laws of the other 49 states, so long as those laws recognize the supremacy of the U.S. Constitution. There are exceptions to this, of course, where the states have cooperated in drafting uniform laws to facilitate interstate commerce, such as the Uniform Commercial Code. Generally however, each state goes its own way. While all states have laws against murder, for example, each state defines what behavior constitutes premeditated murder versus manslaughter, and those definitions may vary from state to state.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/no_tha...
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Every native-born citizen is a natural born citizen.
That has never been doubted (except by birfoons.)
There has never been any such thing as a native-born citizen not natural born, born in ordinary times. Not per Vattel, nor common law.
UR living in a dream world. UR making up law to suit your fantasy.
Every person born a citizen in a country (not during a revolution) is a natural born citizen.
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Not if their father was a foreigner.
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Sorry, loser, a born (in the US) citizen is born a citizen, natural born. A born citizen cannot be naturalized. From the moment of birth his natural allegiance was to The United States of America.
Natural allegiance is the allegiance that each and every citizen owes to his/her nation. It generally arises from membership by birth within a political society. Natural allegiance and obedience is an incident inseparable to every native-born citizen, because as soon as the citizen is born, s/he owes allegiance and obedience to the Sovereign.
"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States. This is the rule of the common law, without any regard or reference to the political condition or allegiance of their parents, with the exception of the children of ambassadors, who are in theory born within the allegiance of the foreign power they represent.... "
Chancellor James Kent, 2 Kent Com.(6th ed.) 39, 42."
Sorry, Loser.
One can not be subject to the jurisdiction (US Constitution) of the United States, when he is born a citizen of another country. Obama was obligated from the moment of birth to his father's country. Sorry, the US had no jurisdiction over him.

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