Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

2008bill wrote:

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Gee, does this lie trump the lie that Gerry and me are the same person? Why not be creative and suggest that I am the out of wedlock son of JFK's mistress, and Gerry is my twin sister?

Not exactly....it's been revealed by the secret underground arm of the G.O.P. that even though you aren't the same person you are, in fact, Siamese Twins attached at the skull. It has also been revealed that you are married in an incestial relationship. Enjoy both of your unions! It must be challenging to be YOU'S!

2008bill wrote:

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So you think that are form of government uses "majority rule" rather than the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution? Interesting, tell me more, instead of your personal attacks, why not speak to the post with you response.

Where do you get minority?
The votes have always gone to majority.
Unless it infringed upon a certain rights of an idividual.
Your view of how things should pass are nuts! It was never meant for that. And if you thought about it, if every minority had has vote passed over a majorities votes what would become of it all?
Something to really think about.
Now democrats have always been known to cater to the minorities. They figure they can garner votes from such groups. But the sad thing is they forget what the majority wants as well.
Repubs are not great at listening as well. But the original constitution was written for the people. It was supposed to be a tool to gather votes from the people for the people on certain issues, whatever it maybe.
But over the years politicians have manipulated the voting process to bypass what the will of the people want.
They took it as being a dictator rather than a democracy.
Yeah politicians are supposed to do what is good for the people yes to a point. But when it becomes for the will of their own views like Obozo and the goon squad are doing, then it becomes a complete violation of the constitution in which it has!
Now I have asked about where is the outrage, and you still dance around a simple question. Stats don't make it right for soldiers to keep dying.
If you read the news, you would see moral is dropping in afghan. Why?
This so called great leader of yours has no clue what to do.
He is spitting in the wind in all directions hoping he hits something.
But the truth of the matter is, he needs to either bring them home. Or send more troops and do a cleaning if you will.
But the longer he waits and the more lives that are lost, will only make him look incompetent. And we all know he has done that already.
Now do you see the big picture? Or are you still in awe of the idiot?

Bill_S wrote:

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More welfare policies? Are you nuts? It is democrats who created it and who push year after year to allow it to flow. It became a crutch for many and many learned to abuse it.
And you have the nerve to blame repubs?
Go do some research you may learn something.

Simply put. The ideologies of the republicans, as of late, fail.

2008bill wrote:

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Gee, it seems to me that I was accosted by someone on this thread for mentioning something about a poster's spouse very similar to what you are attempting to do here. Yet, you were quiet and said nothing, now you do the same thing. Is that flip flopping, or hypocrisy, or just plain biased posting??

it was a test, you didnt answer... you went around the issue. you failed the test. lol

2008bill wrote:

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Identity Christianity asserts that disease, addiction, cancer, and sexual venereal disease (herpes and AIDS) are spread by human "rodents" via contact with "unclean" persons, such as through "race-mixing".[7]:85 The first book of Enoch is used to justify these social theories; the fallen angels of Heaven sexually desired Earth maidens and took them as wives, resulting in the birth of abominations, which God ordered Michael the Archangel to destroy, thus beginning a cosmic war between Light and Darkness.[7]:85 The mixing of separate things (e.g. people of different races) defiles both, and is against God's will.[7]:86
Identity preachers proclaim that, according to the King James Bible, "the penaltys for race-mixing, homo-sexuality, and usury are death."[7]:86 The justification for killing homosexuals is provided by Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Exodus 22:21-22, Leviticus 25:35-37 and Deuteronomy explicitly condemn usury.[7]:92 Ezekiel 18-13 states "He who hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him." and is quoted as justification for killing Jews, since Jews have traditionally had a large presence in the usury business.

Where do you get that stuff.
The race mixing was for a reason the angel stuff you mention is crazy and is not biblical.
But for race or other tribes in that day and age was for the Hebrews to remain clean and pure in thought and faith.
The outsiders were into pagan rituals and various forms of false gods.
God wanted His people to focus on Him and not idols.
As for homosexual practice of that time, it was and still is an abomination before God. It goes against all He created. The Jews were not the only ones to follow that.
The Muslims today still kill people who they find practicing such things.
And originally homosexual practices came about from pagan rituals and it spread. They began to accept it in their cultures that were pagan's. And throughout history it has been frowned upon.
Now go to Iran, or any other Muslim nation and try and be free outspoken about your homosexual ways and see if you do not get put to death.

And for someone who does not believe in God you sure like to throw scriptures out there.
And I may add, you pick and chose things out of context to "try" and support your ideas.
In the book of Deut. God was meaning those will be put to death who take the spoils after they defeated the enemies. There was again good reason to. The Hebrews were clean in their faith. And the spoils of the enemies were offered up to false gods. It was UNCLEAN.
Now if you want to try and use scripture you need to keep things in context.

ritedownthemiddle wrote:

<quoted text>Okay, 2008bill, we'll take it nice and slow. Let's make it easy and just go back to your previous post before this one responding to "bill s".
In the post you asserted that government is guided by the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. With that said, and if you agree with that assumption.....do you think TARP was constitutional? Yes or no....and why, please.
Also, I'm sorry you took my post as a 'feces' pie. On that note, remember you only get one opportunity to sell a turd on a stick advertised as a fudgesicle.

2008 BILL.....as usual you kind of glossed over a direct question. It seems to be a pattern with you.

2008bill wrote:

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Christian terrorism

South African branches of Christian Identity have been accused of involvement in terrorist activity, including the 2002 Soweto bombings.[6]

Jesus even said in one of His messages "many will come in my name". He meant many will claim they are Christians but in reality are not.
To test to see if one is a christian you have to see if they are living and acting according to scriptures. When one takes his own stance and claims to say they are to live this way and it goes against scriptures then that person is not a true christian.
Jim Jones was not a christian. He was a cult leader.
David Karesh was also a cult leader.
Now the bible also says "no one is perfect and all fall short". That means if you are a true believer you have faults still. But that does not mean they are killers, terrorists etc.
Where you get your terrorists from wikipedia? Is wrong.
Now there have been over zealous people who claim to be christian and done things against what God would want.
Like the crusades they were driven by an over zealous leader.
The spanish inqis was catholic church lead not a christian church.
Now billy I can go on and on and correct you on this subject all day.
So next time do some research from many sources instead of one.

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All aboard the Swift Boat wrote:
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I don't suppose it would make sense for your military and federal authorities to complete their investigation first?
Not in your opinion, I'm sure.
And I'm sure you wanted a Congressional investigation of 9/11, where 3000 were killed.
Right, moron?

<quoted text>Just another Moose Head damaged by a tree...
The Poison of Liberalism

You're the one from flaw-duh, hoser.

Gerry wrote:

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Simply put. The ideologies of the republicans, as of late, fail.

So that gives the democrats to go on war path and screw things up more?

I almost forgot you tried to classify white supremacist as Christians. They are a cult in all of their ways.
So your vary basis of your argument is nuts once again.

All aboard the Swift Boat wrote:

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You're the one from flaw-duh, hoser.

Wow so much for being diplomatic like you and the liberals claim to be.
Or is that how you interpret it like bill08 claims.

All aboard the Swift Boat wrote:

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Why not arm wrestle Limpballs and UzBeckistan for it?

Huh???

Is it me or does anyone else find it highly curious how the same favorable/nonfavorable judcons appear on this particular thread almost as quickly as the comment posts?

It's an Obama thread too......I wonder who's doing all that judging for an extra .025 cents per post?

ritedownthemiddle wrote:

Is it me or does anyone else find it highly curious how the same favorable/nonfavorable judcons appear on this particular thread almost as quickly as the comment posts?

bill08 and gerry are one in the same.
He will deny it it but if you notice writing habits.
And they usually appear around same time.
And sad thing is they will post negative one on anything or anyone they do not like. Yet they still claim they are not haters!
If they were not, then they wouldn't post such things. But then again they are hypocrites.

ritedownthemiddle wrote:

It's an Obama thread too......I wonder who's doing all that judging for an extra .025 cents per post?

They were offering money to those who wanted to surf certain topic forums. Even twitter and facebook etc.
Now funny thing on facebook polls, they show negative rating across the board on all democrats. On health care, wars, acorn and all.
The majority of the people do not like the change Obozo and his goon squad are pushing.

California Sun wrote:

Obama was confident he could turn the economy around before he was elected. Now he makes excuse after excuse. The rich wanted cheap labor, and, now, they've got it. Millions of unemployed and unskilled workers collect unemployment benefits. Many from origins outside the United States. Their children defecate on the educational opportunities (see the dropout rate/delinquency rates) afforded them at great expense by taxpayers. Over 100,000 illegal aliens cost $45,000 each, every year, to keep alive in California prisons. Hundreds of illegal immigrants can be found in emergency rooms waiting for free health care. Some of these individuals run up bills, they can't pay, that are more money than they will earn in a lifetime. Common sense has left the building.

You said "Obama was confident he could turn the economy around before he was elected."

NO! This is what people heard! People ASSUMED (and continue to assume) that Obama wanted to make things better!

The reality is Obama wants to make everything "equal", NOT BETTER.

So everything is going along roughly to plan. The idea is to remove our ability to create success and to tax success so that it is more rare.

This is what is so hard to believe about Modern Liberals. They really don't care to make things better. To the Modern Liberal, if things are better, then it means that some thing are not "equal".

Their entire philosophy and belief system is built upon forcing everything to be "equal". They use words like "fairness", "justice" and "equality", but it is really very sinister.

Just like they have done to the inner cities for almost 50 YEARS, they're working on the rest of the country.

People need to wake up and realize that Modern Liberals are not what they seem. We need to vote them all out. Most Democrats in office are Modern Liberals.

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Liberals want as many people in the underclass and on welfare as possible.
They have to because they know that a middle class person that can pay their own way and can think for themselves has no need for liberals or their spirit and initiative killing social programs.
Liberalism is a mental illness based on lies. Liberals claim to care more than anyone but they don't. They just use people in poor or unpleasent circumstances to furter their own agenda and keep themselves in power.

You are correct. Watch and absorb the video "How Modern Liberals Think" by Evan Sayet:

youtube.com/watch...

Evan, who used to be a writer for Bill Maher, has a newer one out called "Hating What's Right: How the Modern Liberal Winds Up on the Wrong Side of Every Issue" at
http://www.silverstatechronicles.com/wordpres...

He was a great explanation about why these people are like they are.

All aboard the Swift Boat wrote:

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You're the one from flaw-duh, hoser.

CONSPIRACY??
Thanks for missing the sarcasm. You're pedantic, but entertaining... Moose Head

A Congressional investigation would open the doors of the Obama administration for discovery of criminal, hate and war crimes and investigate acts of conspiracy and treason within the Obama administration against the United States... Agree??

The Treason and Poison of Liberalism

WHERE ARE THE JOBS? Somebody got the Money, WHO HAS IT? It is NOT in Illinois. But we do have a bunch of illegal immigrants, they are just like a parasite sucking the State Dry.