Akebono Point System

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Jane

Glasgow, KY

#1 Jan 9, 2014
What do the workers at Akebono think about Myron's New Point System?
Don't you love all the changes being made at Akeono after being in business for 25+ years.
We made a profit when Dephi owned half of us. Now that Akebono owns 100% of us we can't seem to make a Profit. There answer to cost savings is Lets take workers off salary and put them on a points system to dock their pay. Lets take away their call in vacation days, Lets let them get 6 points against them and then fire them, After 25+ years in business, Lets change everything to drive a wedge between the workers and management! Real Smart! it's plain stupid to think were going to accept the changes and be happy about it. We made a profit when Delphi Owned us, Maybe it's the way Akebono hides money and sends it to Japan called a Royality is why we don't show a profit. The workers are the ones making money for you. Why would you want to shove all the changes down our throat now? If you don't think this is getting Union cards signed, your plain stupid or really naive.......
A lot of us work 7 days a week. After MONTHs of this, I may be tired and be 15 minutes late for work from time to time. I may get up just plain wore out from all the overtime we work and need a day off. You dangle a bonus of $1000 bucks in front of us if we never miss work or are never a minute late. NO ones life runs perfect. Everyone gets tired, everyone has a sick kid, roads do get slick, Things Happen. Are you trying to push us to a Union?? It's Working.
Great Job Pissing Everyone Off.......Maybe Akebono can sell 50% of the company back to Delphi and we can once again make a Profit and the Associates can be treated fairly again.
Evidently the Japanese don't know how to manage a company. This use to be a Great Place to Work. Now it's just a 7 day a week sweat shop who could care less about the workers.

What Do You Think About The New Points System?
Let's Hear From You..........
thinking

Elizabethtown, KY

#2 Jan 9, 2014
Jane wrote:
What do the workers at Akebono think about Myron's New Point System?
Don't you love all the changes being made at Akeono after being in business for 25+ years.
We made a profit when Dephi owned half of us. Now that Akebono owns 100% of us we can't seem to make a Profit. There answer to cost savings is Lets take workers off salary and put them on a points system to dock their pay. Lets take away their call in vacation days, Lets let them get 6 points against them and then fire them, After 25+ years in business, Lets change everything to drive a wedge between the workers and management! Real Smart! it's plain stupid to think were going to accept the changes and be happy about it. We made a profit when Delphi Owned us, Maybe it's the way Akebono hides money and sends it to Japan called a Royality is why we don't show a profit. The workers are the ones making money for you. Why would you want to shove all the changes down our throat now? If you don't think this is getting Union cards signed, your plain stupid or really naive.......

A lot of us work 7 days a week. After MONTHs of this, I may be tired and be 15 minutes late for work from time to time. I may get up just plain wore out from all the overtime we work and need a day off. You dangle a bonus of $1000 bucks in front of us if we never miss work or are never a minute late. NO ones life runs perfect. Everyone gets tired, everyone has a sick kid, roads do get slick, Things Happen. Are you trying to push us to a Union?? It's Working.
Great Job Pissing Everyone Off.......Maybe Akebono can sell 50% of the company back to Delphi and we can once again make a Profit and the Associates can be treated fairly again.
Evidently the Japanese don't know how to manage a company. This use to be a Great Place to Work. Now it's just a 7 day a week sweat shop who could care less about the workers.
What Do You Think About The New Points System?
Let's Hear From You..........
Let's see here.. They say you have to come to work and be on time and they will give you extra money. They say if you miss your going to get a point, 3 points, step 1, 5 points step 2 and 6 points step three. If you miss, you don't get paid. After 23 years there, I say it is about time they woke up and did something. I have covered more paid absent days than I could ever count. Maybe people will come to work since they will lose money. If you are truly sick or have an emergency, do you really care if you get the attendance award? Will I get mine? Who knows, I don't plan on missing, but if I do, then I doubt I will care about the money. For years I have heard that this person or that person gets away with missing, that wont happen now with the time clock will it? We don't have call in vacation but gained two personal days to use. Isn't that about the same thing? Sit back and think about it. We didnt lose anything, at least those of us who come to work, on time, every day. We gained a chance to get extra money.
Mean gene okerland

Campbellsville, KY

#3 Jan 10, 2014
^^^^ typical of the "I am going to devote my life to Akebono." Attitude smh
hound dog

Elizabethtown, KY

#4 Jan 10, 2014
you are right about the 2 personal days or sick days whatever you want to call them. these folks that complain about this are the ones you can't make happy with anything anyways. This is about time to get rid of all the abusers who would take an extra 3-5 days of "vacation" and just get paid and ride the fence all the time. this is a good policy and I plan on getting some $$$$ out of the deal. If I miss a day or two probably still will get $100 for 2 quarters, plus by two personal days thats about $280. total about $400. not bad. didn't have this last year or the previous 25 years. i don't see anything wrong with it.
Jim

Glasgow, KY

#5 Jan 10, 2014
thinking wrote:
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Let's see here.. They say you have to come to work and be on time and they will give you extra money. They say if you miss your going to get a point, 3 points, step 1, 5 points step 2 and 6 points step three. If you miss, you don't get paid. After 23 years there, I say it is about time they woke up and did something. I have covered more paid absent days than I could ever count. Maybe people will come to work since they will lose money. If you are truly sick or have an emergency, do you really care if you get the attendance award? Will I get mine? Who knows, I don't plan on missing, but if I do, then I doubt I will care about the money. For years I have heard that this person or that person gets away with missing, that wont happen now with the time clock will it? We don't have call in vacation but gained two personal days to use. Isn't that about the same thing? Sit back and think about it. We didnt lose anything, at least those of us who come to work, on time, every day. We gained a chance to get extra money.
Either written by HR or a Fool. Let's see, we went from being able to miss several days before being on a step. No you miss 3 days or miss 2 days and 2 minutes late twice and your on a step. BIG difference. Everyone has things happen. If the daycare calls and says Suzy is sick you need to take her to the doctor, 1/2 point! If your car doesn't start and your 10 minutes late, 1/2 point. If the lights go out in the middle of the night you better have a good battery backup of guess what, it's a 1/2 point if your late. Better hope it doesn't snow or ice on the roads, 1/2 point. Better hope you don't have to work 7 days a week or 12 hours a day and your just plain wore out and wake up late, becuase guess what? It's a Point!
I have worked at Akebono for years and have never been close to being on a step. But I am scared like hell with this new point system, I may be put on a step now. Everyone has things happen from time to time. Yeah, I know people abuse it, But I don't and most people I know dont. I would recommend that the 1/2 point drops off in hours earned. If I am working on a line working 7 days a week 12 hrs a day the time you work should be counted toward when points come off. It's not fair to ask some associates to work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day and treat their time the same as people who only work 5 days 8 hrs. The people working the 7 days are going to get tired more and their bodies wore out and sick more often than the guy on the line only working 5 days 8 hrs. NOT FAIR. I am sure this could be a Simple change that HR could make, it they wanted to or care.
Tony

Glasgow, KY

#6 Jan 10, 2014
hound dog wrote:
you are right about the 2 personal days or sick days whatever you want to call them. these folks that complain about this are the ones you can't make happy with anything anyways. This is about time to get rid of all the abusers who would take an extra 3-5 days of "vacation" and just get paid and ride the fence all the time. this is a good policy and I plan on getting some $$$$ out of the deal. If I miss a day or two probably still will get $100 for 2 quarters, plus by two personal days thats about $280. total about $400. not bad. didn't have this last year or the previous 25 years. i don't see anything wrong with it.
Welcome to the Akebono new Bonus System! We haven't gotten a raise or Bonus in Year, This is your new bonus. "We offered you a $900 Bonus, It's Up to You to Earn it" is what will be said in the Dec. Meeting. The Ambrake Family is Offically Dead. Welcome to Akebono.
wife of associate

Glasgow, KY

#7 Jan 10, 2014
Big freaking cry babies. Welcome to the real world. I am educated and work in healthcare and I've had the point system with every employer I've worked for. Don't blame Akebono, blame your coworkers that took advantage of everything that was once offered to you guys!
Tony

Glasgow, KY

#8 Jan 10, 2014
wife of associate wrote:
Big freaking cry babies. Welcome to the real world. I am educated and work in healthcare and I've had the point system with every employer I've worked for. Don't blame Akebono, blame your coworkers that took advantage of everything that was once offered to you guys!
You are correct the abusers reuined it for all the good workers. But why punish the good workers? I am sure in health care you don't work 7 days a week 12 hrs a day for months on end with out a day off unless you use your vacation days? You have no idea what it's like in this factory 7days a week. I see my co-workers more that I do my wife and kids. I am living it. Last year I also worked 7 days a week 12 hrs a day and I over slept twice and was sick 2 days and have Never been on a step. With the new system I would be on a step. What I am saying is when you work as much overtime as we do, your going to get worn out and sick and the company doesn't care. They don't consider all the overtime we work. All they want to do is hold your feet to the fire and step you when you can't do it anymore and get sick. NO factory in Etown works as much overtime as we do. No business works as much overtime as we do. I work over every single day and no one cares. We use to be like a family and management actually cared about us. No it's us and Them. And they wonder why all the Union talk got started. Your welcome to come work all the overtime with us then let us know what you think, Don't think for a minute you know what your talking about from the outside looking in. You have no idea. Health Care Doesn't work Overtime like we do. Come work beside me all day for 12 hrs. Everyday, then you can have a opinion and wouldn't be calling us cry babies. You would never last, better stay in health care.
thinking

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Jan 10, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text> Either written by HR or a Fool. Let's see, we went from being able to miss several days before being on a step. No you miss 3 days or miss 2 days and 2 minutes late twice and your on a step. BIG difference. Everyone has things happen. If the daycare calls and says Suzy is sick you need to take her to the doctor, 1/2 point! If your car doesn't start and your 10 minutes late, 1/2 point. If the lights go out in the middle of the night you better have a good battery backup of guess what, it's a 1/2 point if your late. Better hope it doesn't snow or ice on the roads, 1/2 point. Better hope you don't have to work 7 days a week or 12 hours a day and your just plain wore out and wake up late, becuase guess what? It's a Point!
I have worked at Akebono for years and have never been close to being on a step. But I am scared like hell with this new point system, I may be put on a step now. Everyone has things happen from time to time. Yeah, I know people abuse it, But I don't and most people I know dont. I would recommend that the 1/2 point drops off in hours earned. If I am working on a line working 7 days a week 12 hrs a day the time you work should be counted toward when points come off. It's not fair to ask some associates to work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day and treat their time the same as people who only work 5 days 8 hrs. The people working the 7 days are going to get tired more and their bodies wore out and sick more often than the guy on the line only working 5 days 8 hrs. NOT FAIR. I am sure this could be a Simple change that HR could make, it they wanted to or care.
I am not HR. I guess I am a fool. Bottom line, like several posts said, the ones who abused the old system screwed us all. Can you honestly blame them for changing it? Think about it, say 200 people ride the 40 hour fence on absence all year, they got paid, we had to cover and got time and a half. That is a lot of wasted dollars. Now, we may have to cover but they wont get paid for not coming in. How many people can afford not to get paid? I am saying that this will help those of us who do not miss the extra 30 to 40 hours a year. Yea, it is going to put a hurt on some who can't help it if they are late, like if they have a flat tire or what not. But it is what it is, a job. We are the only place that paid people to call in, yea 25 plus years of doing it, but dont you think that was a bad thing? When we were Ambrake it probably wasn't since we didnt miss work as much, there weren't 1300 people in there and the machines were in better shape and we didn't have all the downtime we have now. I don't like all of the over time and will gladly let anyone have mine. But I am a firm believer that if I am getting paid to do a job, I do it, like it or not.
blue eyes

Vine Grove, KY

#10 Jan 10, 2014
Tony wrote:
<quoted text> You are correct the abusers reuined it for all the good workers. But why punish the good workers? I am sure in health care you don't work 7 days a week 12 hrs a day for months on end with out a day off unless you use your vacation days? You have no idea what it's like in this factory 7days a week. I see my co-workers more that I do my wife and kids. I am living it. Last year I also worked 7 days a week 12 hrs a day and I over slept twice and was sick 2 days and have Never been on a step. With the new system I would be on a step. What I am saying is when you work as much overtime as we do, your going to get worn out and sick and the company doesn't care. They don't consider all the overtime we work. All they want to do is hold your feet to the fire and step you when you can't do it anymore and get sick. NO factory in Etown works as much overtime as we do. No business works as much overtime as we do. I work over every single day and no one cares. We use to be like a family and management actually cared about us. No it's us and Them. And they wonder why all the Union talk got started. Your welcome to come work all the overtime with us then let us know what you think, Don't think for a minute you know what your talking about from the outside looking in. You have no idea. Health Care Doesn't work Overtime like we do. Come work beside me all day for 12 hrs. Everyday, then you can have a opinion and wouldn't be calling us cry babies. You would never last, better stay in health care.
sounds like u need to transfer.... off that line.... problem solved. Then ull just whine u can't get over time to pay ur bills.....
Just Signed a Card

Glasgow, KY

#11 Jan 11, 2014
So many things have changed over the years it make me sick. This is NOT the same place I got hired in at . When Delphi owned half of us, this was such a good place to work. When the Japs took over 100% of us is when everything went down hill. Nothing is ever good enough, work 7 days a week. Before we started sending MILLION of Dollars to Japan in a form of Royalties we made money. It's not our fault that we send all these Millions to Japan and they tell us, We didn't make a Profit, NO Raise, NO Bonus but if you want more money, just work more Overtime. NOT the Answer. I have missed so much of my kids growing up because I have had to work so much overtime over the last 15 years it's not funny. It's cheaper for them to work you overtime rather than hire a new worker. Stop Sending All the Royalties to Japan and we can make a BIG Profit and Maybe get a Raise, Bonus and Better Matching 401K like I have been reading on here. I never thought about the 401K matching 3-4% until I read it on here. I do remember when it was 6%. I need to start thinking more about retirement and 401K is the only way out of here for me. I am so broke down, I can't work at WalMart when I retire like someone wrote. I don't think we sent all the Royalties to Delphi when they owned us. Stop sending all our Profits to Japan and we Can make Money and get better benifits. 1% raise we got 2 years ago was a Joke. Insurance going up took that and more. Inflation took that. This company doesn't care. All about Royalties and Profit. Nothing for the workers who's blood, sweat and tears make the money for you. The Royalty thing is taking our profits and is why the company shows NO profit and We can't get better benifits or a raise. I am emailing the IRS to see if this is Legal.I am so sick of hearing "We got close to making a Profit" and they Never tell how much Royalties the send to Japan. Were told the Royalties Pay the Shareholders, for right to use their name, for drawings on parts. Well you don't have to pay the share holder as much as you do, Akebono is traded on the Japanese stock market and is publically owned. They should be getting their profits in stock price going up like everyone else. Using their name and paying for is a Bull Crap Lie, and the use of drawings is a lie, we get these from our Honda, GM, Toyota and Ford. Do you actually think we design their brake calipers? NO, their R&D does this. Thanks for caring about us again, Thanks for all the Changes you have made in the last two years, and Thanks for the new point system. Thanks for all the remodeling, painting, bathrooms remodel, new conference rooms, lighting, office furniture, landscaping, security fences and turnstile, and the New roof and Royalties and Not Giving the Associates a Raise, Bonus or Better Benifits.
Renee

Elizabethtown, KY

#12 Jan 11, 2014
Did Renee really tell scott when he confronted her about ot " tell him to transfer" to which he replied " where, HR?" Lol
Just down the road

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Jan 13, 2014
Wow, what a bunch of whiners. Why does everyone think it is Myrons policy. I would think that lots of people have had to see this policy before myron announced it. Nobody mentions that all of the other factories are doing this. What about the plant manager? Do you think he knew it? They way I understand, it is a normal attendance policy. May be they should have not given us an incentive. That's what it seem like everyone is fighting about. It look like the policy is fair. I think i have plenty of times to take off and keep my job.I heard a lot of people say, let have a policy so people will quit abusing the system. You all talk about Delphi. If you have done your research and found how many of their factories are in business.. Lot's went belly up when GM went bankrupt. Also of the ones that are in business, how many went from $25.00 plus dollars to making less that we make. Don't ask for something you don't really want. I just want a job and provide for my family and Akebono gives me that opportunity..A union is not going to do that for me. As a matter of fact, ask someone that works for a union. what has the union done for them lately?. Sounds like union dues are going to be 3 hours a month soon. I can do a lot with my $55.00 dollars I would have to pay the union for nothing.. Not me i don't want a union, i just want a job and I have one. Don't screw it up for me!!!
SJordan

Duluth, GA

#14 Jan 13, 2014
That system seems pretty much inline with what we have a Metalsa. Do points fall of after a 6 month period? I know our points fall off every six months but a corrective action step is on the books for a year. We had many play our old easy system years ago and they still play the current one we have now. Think ours is 3 points is a verbal, 4 get a written, and 5 will get you a day of deliberation. Depending on work ethic you may or may not be brought back after that point.
SJordan

Duluth, GA

#15 Jan 13, 2014
Oh we also get 4 make ups to use if needed to cover tardies or missed work that don't count against perfect attendance.
Hcs

Elizabethtown, KY

#16 Jan 13, 2014
They never matched 6% it was 1 % given match next 2 100% then half of next 3 so if you put 6 they put 4.5. Idk what it is now
No we don't get 4 make ups
Steve

Glasgow, KY

#17 Jan 14, 2014
SJordan wrote:
Oh we also get 4 make ups to use if needed to cover tardies or missed work that don't count against perfect attendance.
Wish Akebono had 4 make up days. We only have ONE. And Matelsa's 4 make up days don't count against their perfect attendance? I thought HR told us they contacted the local companies in the area to base our point system on. Well Someone forgot to call our neighbor Matelsa? 4 make up days to cover tardies or missed work that Do Not count against your perfect attendance is FAIR to all and would end the fighting and hard feelings over the perfect attendance award each quarter. Seems like Matelsa is doing it Correct and Fair to their Employees. Matelsa also works a LOT of overtime like Akebono does. Seems like they Understand working someone 7 days a week, the employees will be late from time to time and get sick and need off. Seems like they actually care about their employees. We have ONE make up day they have four. Typical of HR to tell us they contacted the local companies and base our point system off the ones in the area. Who did HR call McDonald's or WalMart? Just another Lie.
Jason

Glasgow, KY

#18 Jan 14, 2014
Hcs wrote:
They never matched 6% it was 1 % given match next 2 100% then half of next 3 so if you put 6 they put 4.5. Idk what it is now
No we don't get 4 make ups
Wouldn't it be nice if HR posted how much our 401K Matches or have it posted on the retirement website so everyone could stop talking about it and We would actually know. I doubt 50% of the people at Akebono know how much Akebono Contributes to Our 401K. Or Maybe Post it in the New Handbooks they are going to Pass out. It's Just Crazy that NO One Knows??
blue eyes

Vine Grove, KY

#19 Jan 14, 2014
They match up to 4%.
Steve

Glasgow, KY

#20 Jan 15, 2014
I am so glad that Doug gave us the two call-in vacation days!
This is a Huge relief to me and everyone that I have talked to today.
This was the topic of the day at work and Everyone is so Glad that Doug did this. This is like a load of bricks off our shoulders. Everyone gets sick from time to time or has a kid that gets sick and can't go to school or needs to go to the doctor. If I had to call in for my daughter being sick, it would have been a point against me. Now thanks to Doug, I can call in a vacation day. I for one want to tell Doug, Thank you from me and my family.

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