Elgin High School student stabs teacher in classroom, cops say

EHS Senior wrote:

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I'll have you know JOE, that bartlett has a much higher discipline problem than ELgin. I was a good buddy with Detective Brown before he got his DUI and shit and he told me on a matter of fact that elgin is one of the most well behaved schools in U-46. unfortunately, we are still trying to overcome the negative image that was established by all the gangbangers back in the 70's. this kid was an anomaly as far as i'm concerned. he was probably on drugs, and thought that he was being disrespected by the teacher, so he got her back. On that note, does anyone know if the student was in fact a hispanic?

Sam wrote:

Are you kidding? "Hopefully, the student will not be charged as an adult?" Throw the book at him. Teachers shouldn't have to worry about being attacked by the very same students they dedicate their lives to. Violence in schools is an outrage and people should wake up. I agree that psychological help is necessary. Our society must address these issues.

not hispanic wrote:

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first of all, what does "wand" mean? not that I cater to Bush but, really? It's his fault?? seriously...

whynonhispanic_itmatters wrote:

i am very saddened by some of the comments on this topic. why is race an issue? i am mexican american. sometimes people make me feel ashamed

EHS Teacher wrote:

Hey Senior, you're right in that EHS appears to have better discipline and is less permissive than the other schools, including Bartlett. But the fact that you refer to Detective Brown as a "buddy" might be part of the problem in all schools. He was not there to be your buddy and his lackadaisical attitude did nothing discourage misbehavior or encourage upstanding behavior among your classmates. Today's society, and this carries over into many school's policies is too permissive when it comes to unproductive, lowlife behavior. We cannot continue to ignore gang activity or just throw our hands up in worthlessness anymore than we can continue to allow students to block the hallways, swear, threaten, scream, wander, listen to their iPods in class. We seem to expect rules to be broken, I'd like to insist that rules be enforced. Start cracking down on out-of-control behavior in the schools and maybe our reading scores will go up!
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Double D wrote:

Don't worry EHS senior, LHS has taken the trouble maker crown for now.

EHS Senior wrote:

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I think you are right with the D Brown thing. He was a nice guy, but he obviously had gotten lax with his job, as evidenced by his lack of self control in recent months. However, his job is not solely to be a threatening presence to discourage bad behavior. He was a great mentor (if thats the appropriate way to put it), and he helped many students find themselves among the mindless lemming like mentality that many do have. To me it is a question of balance between authority and friendliness that is out of wack at this point. Personally I think there is a double standard at the school and, probably many other schools, as far as discipline is concerned. I havn't worn my ID all the past 4 years, and I will probably not continue to do so, simply because as a senior and an academy member, the deans and teachers choose to ignore me as a threat. That is why I am really interested in who the student was who did the stabbing. If he was indeed one of the many deliquents we have at EHS, then it might be understandable that he would do such a thing, whereas you would obviously not expect an upstanding student such myself ;) and others in the school to have committed the crime. It seems that we should either crack down on everyone, or let every one slide. Otherwise, there is no point in expecting anyone to behave. And I personally believe that omst of the "deliquents" in our school are beyond hope anyways. Demographically, we have such a high amount of simply uncaring students that no matter what influence the school tries to have over the education process, there is little hope for change. From what I have seen, most of the students who are bringing down the test scores and reading levels are the ones who could care less about their future, and it seems that this attitude is also found at home, with the parents. It is an unfortunate enigma....

Lou wrote:

<quoted text>Wand means hand held metal detector. On the second point, he was refering to the non-enforcement of immigration law by Bush to please wealthy business owners who then become extremly more wealthy at the detriment of both the illegals who they exploit, and the former legal workers who are replaced by the illegals.

EHS Teacher wrote:

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Senior- the fact that you do not wear your ID and did not wear it in my class would be regarded by most teachers as small potatoes---there are bigger problems in the halls and classrooms than a Gifted student without an ID. Believe me, we do not leave you alone on this issue because we are threatened by you, just tired of asking. The "uncaring" attitude you mention has nothing to do with demographics; it's pervasive across all aspects of society today(aren't you uncaring, in regards to wearing your ID?). As far as "obviously not expect(ing) an upstanding student such as" yourself to be involved in anything so heinous, don't kid yourself smartypants. Sometimes it's the really smart ones who can be the most scary. We hope the lower performers are too lazy or too dumb to carry out a crime and we hope you wise guys use your brain power for good, not evil...and if I see you in the hall tomorrow, expect me to ask you to put on your ID.

concern parent wrote:

I know one of the teachers from EHS posting a message here should be about the teacher, she lost her sight in one eye and he stabbed her in the neck more then one time she is so lucky to be ALIVE.
The kids are not all bad kids from EHS you are judging them all for one kid. I think he should be charged as an adult and the book should be thrown at him. Stop spreading rumors about EHS that are not true. Once again this should be about the teacher not school rivial or ethnicity.
This is about one person being victimized by another.
NOT ALL KIDS AT EHS ARE BAD KIDS

concern parent wrote:

I know one of the teachers from EHS posting a message here should be about the teacher, she lost her sight in one eye and he stabbed her in the neck more then one time she is so lucky to be ALIVE.
The kids are not all bad kids from EHS you are judging them all for one kid. I think he should be charged as an adult and the book should be thrown at him. Stop spreading rumors about EHS that are not true. Once again this should be about the teacher not school rivial or ethnicity.
This is about one person being victimized by another.
NOT ALL KIDS AT EHS ARE BAD KIDS

concern parent wrote:

There are a number of post here and in other forums regarding race and I think you need to read them before you come back and attack me.
My point is people should stay on the topic of the teacher and what this is going to do to her for the rest of her life and other teachers having to go to school today not know why this happened.
Bye the way I am a concern parent in the area what is your association with EHS???

Lou wrote:

<quoted text>This is terrible! Much worse then originally reported. He has destroyed the teacher and her families normal lives forever. Charges should be upgraded to attempted murder, as an adult.

DoubleD wrote:

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Race is entirely unimportant here. I stated that all intelligent people know that. Please do not say that EHS kids are being deamonized because of the actions of one. It is not true