Court OKs house arrest sentence for ex-park ranger

What are the other details? Was Teschner assaulting the Park Ranger? What happened that caused Woods to shoot Teschner?

A federal government employee shot a citizen for refusing to pay a fee? And some people wonder why there's plenty of nut jobs out there that have no problems justifying the stock piling guns and ammo.

The guy was shot because he would not pay the $14 fee and he peed on a camp fire..I think.

this was a state employee, not federal, at least read the article before you comment

"five years' probation and one year of house arrest"...for $14? damm, life sure gets cheaper and cheaper in NM...

I live down here at Elephant Butte- The guy was making physical threats against the Ranger- He appeared to be reaching for a gun when the Ranger shot him. It didn't help that it was dark.

If an armed Law Enforcement Officer asks you to do something, it is usually in your best interests to comply. There are a lot of crazy people out there who shoot and kill law enforcement agents. How many stories have we seen just here in New Mexico??? We've had several State Police Offers killed just doing their jobs on routine traffic stops.

I don't think Woods was right for shooting the man- but when someone has threatened you and appears to be reaching for a weapon, it's a whole different ballgame.

Thanks to all Soldiers and Law Enforcement Officers who help keep us safe!!!

The problem is thst at the heart of the it all is the poor training of the employees of the State Parks System. The head of the state parks, Dave Simon is an awful example, a lousy head of the system, promoted in spite of complete incompetance and promoted beyond his ability, putting bandaids on serious problems...these parks belong to the citizens and Dave Simon has no respect for the citizens of New Mexico so what do you expect in a situation like this? Not only is this wrong but the state should do some serious examination of Dave Simon's (lack) of proper leadership.

Why was he shot in the back.
we could have waited till morning
when state police could help, didnt
looks like he could not have moved
till morning. If someone can not pay
the state should put the fees off
till he has a chance to move. there again when you have a wepon you must be trained like the state police.
not barny fife.

Why go for the kill? why not the leg or hand maybe he is related to that serial killer that parker guy that used to live over there.

It's open season on unarmed civilians who upset a law enforcement officer, turn their backs on them and walk away. The New Mexico Court of Appeals, through this ridiculously light sentence, has in fact endorsed THE DEATH PENALTY for "contempt of cop". On the heels of the acquittal of Albuquerque P.D. Officer Orlando Chavez for murdering his unarmed, and much older stepfather in the decedent's own home, one can only expect that Albuquerque Police Officer Levi Chavez, who is suspected of murdering his wife, and with the help of 9 other Albuquerque P.D. officers staging the crime scene to make it look like suicide, will also be acquitted or be given a ridiculously light sentence.
We recently learned that Albuquerque Police Officers (Timothy Chavez) may rape 14-year-old girls with impunity. It appears now they may also murder unarmed civilians with little or absolutely no consequences.
Does anyone NOT see what passes for justice in New Mexico? The State Bird should be the OSTRICH, not the Road Runner/Chaparral.

news reader wrote:

What are the other details? Was Teschner assaulting the Park Ranger? What happened that caused Woods to shoot Teschner?

The man had ARGUED with the Park Ranger, had turned his back on him and was walking AWAY from the Park Ranger when he was shot in the back. End of story. The one poster who lied about threats being made and the guy reaching for something is either a pathological liar or just clinically insane. The man had his arms/hands at his side and was simply walking away from the disagreement. New Mexico LEOs are avid fans of a guy called Massad Ayoob and his book: "In the Gravest Extreme", which is basically a manual for Law Enforcement Officers on HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDERING PEOPLE. And now, it's not a secret anymore!!!

CallousOneToo wrote:

A federal government employee shot a citizen for refusing to pay a fee? And some people wonder why there's plenty of nut jobs out there that have no problems justifying the stock piling guns and ammo.

Someone is splitting hairs and digging into you because you mistakenly said a "federal government employee". THAT doesn't matter. What does matter is that it was a Law Enforcement Officer assigned to work in the State of New Mexico, and that murders and even rapes of 14 year old girls in New Mexico by Law Enforcement Types are pretty much accepted by the Criminal Justice System with little or no consequences. There was NO justification for this alleged "law enforcement officer" to have shot in the back and murdered this man. And you are right- it's one of the reasons people are stockpiling weapons and ammunition. Try to think what New Mexico will be like in the event of some natural or man-made event of gigantic proportions and how many of these uniformed predators will behave THEN- where there is no authority other than each one of them- people like the Orlando Camachos, the Timothy Chavez's,
the Levi Chavez's, the Matt Griffiths, and the whole rogues' gallery of murderers, rapists, and crooks that have come out of ESPECIALLY the Albuquerque Police Department! I know there are GOOD officers, but boy, the ROGUES seem to be running the departments and allowing other rogues to do unspeakable things with the assistance of their fellow rogues working in District Attorneys' Offices and behind the Bench.

If he was being attacked then this was self defense. If not then it was murder. Good thing I never go camping unarmed. I thought that was because of animals but I guess I'd better start looking out for park rangers too.

INFIDEL wrote:

If he was being attacked then this was self defense. If not then it was murder. Good thing I never go camping unarmed. I thought that was because of animals but I guess I'd better start looking out for park rangers too.

If he was being attacked and it was self defense he wouldn't have been convicted.. ALTHOUGH WE ARE IN NM WITH THE "GREAT JUSTICE SYSTEM"

Harrison Bergeron,

If you think you can hold their job and do better, then go apply for the job and quit monday morning quarter backing any law enforcement officer. You read and listen to the news do they actually have all the facts, of course not! You are an idiot for believing what you read why don't you read the reports and the law that you don't know aything about i, you have no clue! Better yet why dont you go on a ride along with a police officer so you can see what really happens out there just dont piss your pants.

whatever wrote:

Harrison Bergeron,
If you think you can hold their job and do better, then go apply for the job and quit monday morning quarter backing any law enforcement officer. You read and listen to the news do they actually have all the facts, of course not! You are an idiot for believing what you read why don't you read the reports and the law that you don't know aything about i, you have no clue! Better yet why dont you go on a ride along with a police officer so you can see what really happens out there just dont **** your pants.

Retired from the job, sonny. Deputy Sheriff, State of Colorado, and happy to say the only place I ever had to draw my SS Python 4" was on the range, where I regularly shot 95-98%. I don't need some I--D---I---0---T to tell me what to do. I am beginning to understand why the Courts and its Officers get away with so much crime in New Mexico. People like you make it all possible. You don't shoot an unarmed man in the back. You don't even shoot an unarmed felon in the back UNLESS YOU ARE REASONABLY CERTAIN HE WILL COMMIT A VIOLENT FELONY IF YOU LET HIM ESCAPE. For people like you who are apparently cognitively challenged in some way, ARGUING OVER A $14.00 CAMPING FEE IS NOT EVEN A MISDEMEANOR, MUCH LESS A REASON TO SHOOT AN UNARMED MAN IN THE BACK. Check your own drawers. I have a feeling you are the one with the skidmarks. ANY lawman that shoots a man like this cannot call himself a lawman, but he better believe HE IS A YELLOW-BELLIED COWARD. Even in the Old West- It wasn't a respected practice.

Apparently the misinformed baboon who said I should work as a law enforcement officer has friends at
KOB Topix. I said, in my original post, that I AM retired from the job. Deputy Sheriff, State of Colorado. I don't need some Walter Mitty wannabe telling me what I should do. I have kept tabs on THIS and EVERY case in New Mexico where deadly force was used in questionable circumstances, or where law enforcement officers have themselves committed crimes. Shooting a person in the back who posed no threat, who was walking away from you, who was unarmed, and WHO HAD COMMITTED NO CRIME, is in itself a crime. Moreover, it is THE ACT OF A YELLOW-BELLIED COWARD, and something that wasn't looked on too kindly EVEN IN THE OLD WEST for which some people express such a longing. The law enforcement officer's greatest weapon is HIS OR HER MIND; HIS/HER ABILITY TO REASON with people and appeal to their better angels to do what is right, especially when they have committed NO CRIME, and are merely arguing with you ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY they should have to pay. There is such a thing as freedom of speech in this country, and last time I checked, I believe New Mexico was still part of the USA, whether it wants to be or not. A law enforcement officer should be respected and not feared. A law enforcement officer should only use the appropriate amount of force necessary to resolve any situation. The man could have used any number of non-lethal alternatives. For starters, he didn't even place the civilian under arrest for ANY offense. That's because the man had committed no offense. Even a law enforcement officer cannot take life just because he gets angry at someone who got the best of him in an argument. With that said, check your own drawers. Since you expound on things you know nothing of, you may not know how to properly wipe your rear either. Me, I was able to talk my way out of many a difficult situation and had only to draw my stainless steel .357 Colt Python 4" at the range, once a month, where I regularly shot 95% to 98%. It's not the gun, shotgun, uniform, or even the badge that earn you respect, sonny, it's HOW YOU ACT while you are wearing them, when you are most visible, and even when you are off duty. Have a nice day. I know I am.

harrisonbergeron wrote:

Apparently the misinformed baboon who said I should work as a law enforcement officer has friends at
KOB Topix. I said, in my original post, that I AM retired from the job. Deputy Sheriff, State of Colorado. I don't need some Walter Mitty wannabe telling me what I should do. I have kept tabs on THIS and EVERY case in New Mexico where deadly force was used in questionable circumstances, or where law enforcement officers have themselves committed crimes. Shooting a person in the back who posed no threat, who was walking away from you, who was unarmed, and WHO HAD COMMITTED NO CRIME, is in itself a crime. Moreover, it is THE ACT OF A YELLOW-BELLIED COWARD, and something that wasn't looked on too kindly EVEN IN THE OLD WEST for which some people express such a longing. The law enforcement officer's greatest weapon is HIS OR HER MIND; HIS/HER ABILITY TO REASON with people and appeal to their better angels to do what is right, especially when they have committed NO CRIME, and are merely arguing with you ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY they should have to pay. There is such a thing as freedom of speech in this country, and last time I checked, I believe New Mexico was still part of the USA, whether it wants to be or not. A law enforcement officer should be respected and not feared. A law enforcement officer should only use the appropriate amount of force necessary to resolve any situation. The man could have used any number of non-lethal alternatives. For starters, he didn't even place the civilian under arrest for ANY offense. That's because the man had committed no offense. Even a law enforcement officer cannot take life just because he gets angry at someone who got the best of him in an argument. With that said, check your own drawers. Since you expound on things you know nothing of, you may not know how to properly wipe your rear either. Me, I was able to talk my way out of many a difficult situation and had only to draw my stainless steel .357 Colt Python 4" at the range, once a month, where I regularly shot 95% to 98%. It's not the gun, shotgun, uniform, or even the badge that earn you respect, sonny, it's HOW YOU ACT while you are wearing them, when you are most visible, and even when you are off duty. Have a nice day. I know I am.

Thank you for your service. Don't let the peanut gallery get to you. Poster Whatever is apparently quite clueless that a Court of law found the Park Ranger guilty of taking a life needlessly, even though the punishment is laughable.

H. Bergeron,

In hindsight, many may believe that the ranger could have or should have talked his way out of this incident. That happens many times. There are a great number of law enforcement officers in NM that perform well at verbal judo. In fact, I believe that most here in NM do an outstanding job at it given the remote locations (lack of sufficient back up) they must work in. I can generally understand your frustration with law enforcement in NM. NM has been attempting to catch up with the rest of the nation in regards to proper training. The gypsy cop syndrome is alive and well throughout the state. That being stated...

If I am to understand this incident correctly, a man was asked to leave a campsite and subsequently shot in the back? Being shot in the back is seen by the general public as a no-no; however, there are many explanations for one having shot another in the back. Lag time can explain a round or several rounds striking the person in the back. ForceScience research has performed great work in this specific type of shooting. I encourage you to check out Dr Lewinsky's research. As for the other parts of the situation, I wasn't there and really have no understanding of any of it. There are many things that can lead up to and precede a shooting. It all comes down to the perception of the person doing the shooting. We can't determine (with hindsight) what the officer/deputy/ranger should have done based on what we know now. We can only use what the law enforcement officer knew at the time.

Centurion wrote:

H. Bergeron,
In hindsight, many may believe that the ranger could have or should have talked his way out of this incident. That happens many times. There are a great number of law enforcement officers in NM that perform well at verbal judo. In fact, I believe that most here in NM do an outstanding job at it given the remote locations (lack of sufficient back up) they must work in. I can generally understand your frustration with law enforcement in NM. NM has been attempting to catch up with the rest of the nation in regards to proper training. The gypsy cop syndrome is alive and well throughout the state. That being stated...
If I am to understand this incident correctly, a man was asked to leave a campsite and subsequently shot in the back? Being shot in the back is seen by the general public as a no-no; however, there are many explanations for one having shot another in the back. Lag time can explain a round or several rounds striking the person in the back. ForceScience research has performed great work in this specific type of shooting. I encourage you to check out Dr Lewinsky's research. As for the other parts of the situation, I wasn't there and really have no understanding of any of it. There are many things that can lead up to and precede a shooting. It all comes down to the perception of the person doing the shooting. We can't determine (with hindsight) what the officer/deputy/ranger should have done based on what we know now. We can only use what the law enforcement officer knew at the time.

What would Jesus do?