Family tangled up in immigration system, divided between two countries

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By Anne Blythe McClatchy Newspapers DURHAM, N.C. - Angela Guerrero knew she might be overwhelmed for a few weeks, possibly a month, juggling work, child care and the daily grind of family life when her husband ...

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Since: Oct 07

Dallas, TX

#1 Oct 9, 2008
Anyone else care to comment?
So What

Savannah, GA

#2 Oct 9, 2008
She shouldn't have married an illegal alien. Obviously they both thought that because they were married, the illegal husband could just waltz his happy as s back into this country with a green card. They were very sadly mistaken. I find it hard to have any sympathy for those who come into this country illegally and then try to evoke sympathy about their plight when the gig is up. I do have compassion for the children, however, who are always victims of their parent's illegal actions.
Speeders are Murderers

United States

#3 Oct 9, 2008
Next thing the robbers and molesters are gonna start complaining about what a nightmare it is to be "tangled up" in our criminal justice system.

Like my daddy used to say - When in doubt, obey the law.

Since: Oct 07

Dallas, TX

#4 Oct 9, 2008
Speeders are Murderers wrote:
Next thing the robbers and molesters are gonna start complaining about what a nightmare it is to be "tangled up" in our criminal justice system.
Like my daddy used to say - When in doubt, obey the law.
ROFLMAO!

Since: May 08

Bloomdale, OH

#5 Oct 10, 2008
All I"ve got to say is that people like her make it hard for others who date Mexicans. They whine and cry about being seperated and it makes everyone think that all people in relationships with Hispanics are pro-illegal and/or just plain stupid of the laws. They should have forseen this and worked on his papers before they had children. Although I am wondering why he has the 2 youngest in MX with him. Is she trying to make them think she can't take care of the children she DECIDED to have? She could get Govt help.(I don't mind people getting Govt assistance if they really NEED it and are at least trying. ex have a job)Poor kids, it seems like neither parent can plan ahead.
Joe

United States

#6 Oct 12, 2008
Betsy Ross wrote:
Anyone else care to comment?
Just another sham green card marriage. When they wife would rather give up her "husband", and stay in the USA, it's not a real marriage. It's a marriage of convenience only. Nothing prevents these women from going to Mexico and keeping their families together. They simply do not love their spouse much at all. Or they love money much more.
Joe

United States

#7 Oct 12, 2008
jadzzea wrote:
All I"ve got to say is that people like her make it hard for others who date Mexicans. They whine and cry about being seperated and it makes everyone think that all people in relationships with Hispanics are pro-illegal and/or just plain stupid of the laws. They should have forseen this and worked on his papers before they had children. Although I am wondering why he has the 2 youngest in MX with him. Is she trying to make them think she can't take care of the children she DECIDED to have? She could get Govt help.(I don't mind people getting Govt assistance if they really NEED it and are at least trying. ex have a job)Poor kids, it seems like neither parent can plan ahead.
Look at the names of the children. The older two likely have an American father paying child support, but since her Mexican husband can't/won't pay support she gave him the kids. This woman is all about money. She doesn't even love her Mexican kids enough to move to live with them and help raise them.
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#8 Oct 12, 2008
jadzzea wrote:
All I"ve got to say is that people like her make it hard for others who date Mexicans. They whine and cry about being seperated and it makes everyone think that all people in relationships with Hispanics are pro-illegal and/or just plain stupid of the laws. They should have forseen this and worked on his papers before they had children. Although I am wondering why he has the 2 youngest in MX with him. Is she trying to make them think she can't take care of the children she DECIDED to have? She could get Govt help.(I don't mind people getting Govt assistance if they really NEED it and are at least trying. ex have a job)Poor kids, it seems like neither parent can plan ahead.
Be prepared that when you "date a Mexican" or even marry a Mexican that they may not be able to live in the U.S. at any given time. So no sympathy from me. Now if you want to "date" a US citizen of Mexican descendant then no problem.
Joe

United States

#9 Oct 12, 2008
PSL wrote:
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Be prepared that when you "date a Mexican" or even marry a Mexican that they may not be able to live in the U.S. at any given time. So no sympathy from me. Now if you want to "date" a US citizen of Mexican descendant then no problem.
But they have the completely legitimate option of living in Mexico. It's funny how many of them only want a marriage of convenience. They absolutely do not believe enough in their marriage to make a single sacrifice for it. Giving up food stamps, WIC for a family? Never.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#10 Oct 12, 2008
When you get involved with ANYONE doing anything illegal, be it an illegal immigrant or someone cheating taxes, etc, you are going to get burned.

Unless ne lied to her and presented false documents, she knew what she was getting into and the potential.

If we do not take "Gee I thought she was 18" from a guy found with an underage girl, I will not accept the excuse "I was unaware." There is a reason we have lawyers who specialize in immigration cases - notaries are not lawyers all the time - none of the notaries I know and use are.

Second, he was here illegally anyhow - what did they expect would happen>

Sometimes the brain has to override the heart and the hormones.

Since: May 08

Aurora, IN

#11 Oct 12, 2008
PSL wrote:
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Be prepared that when you "date a Mexican" or even marry a Mexican that they may not be able to live in the U.S. at any given time. So no sympathy from me. Now if you want to "date" a US citizen of Mexican descendant then no problem.
I AM dating a Mexican and we HAVE been seperated for almost a yr now. He was NOT deported, he went back on his own and I HAVE been there to visit and plan to go back next yr. My point was exactly that. You won't hear me whine and complain about the situation, it has to be done and I know it. People that DO whine and complain annoy me and it does make others who date Mexicans look bad.
And no we're not married and I do not intend to marry him anytime soon. He's coming back on a tourist visa and will continue to work on his papers from there.

Since: May 08

Aurora, IN

#12 Oct 12, 2008
Joe wrote:
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Look at the names of the children. The older two likely have an American father paying child support, but since her Mexican husband can't/won't pay support she gave him the kids. This woman is all about money. She doesn't even love her Mexican kids enough to move to live with them and help raise them.
Names mean nothing. My daughter has a Hispanic name, but she's American born and raised. As for the child support, it's likely that he CAN'T pay b/c their money is less than ours. That's why they send money from the US TO MX and from MX to the US. Now as for her kids, if they were born here then they could've stayed with her. You're right, she just must not want them.
Joe

United States

#13 Oct 12, 2008
jadzzea wrote:
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Names mean nothing. My daughter has a Hispanic name, but she's American born and raised. As for the child support, it's likely that he CAN'T pay b/c their money is less than ours. That's why they send money from the US TO MX and from MX to the US. Now as for her kids, if they were born here then they could've stayed with her. You're right, she just must not want them.
In this article, the first two children have American names, and are older than that marriage of 5 years. It sounds to me like she already one baby with the illegal before she married him, and he believed that siring a child here would get him instant citizenship.

This woman doesn't care enough about her husband and younger children to go home to live with them in Mexico. Marriages that can only last in the USA and with welfare handouts are shams.

Since: May 08

Aurora, IN

#14 Oct 12, 2008
Joe wrote:
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In this article, the first two children have American names, and are older than that marriage of 5 years. It sounds to me like she already one baby with the illegal before she married him, and he believed that siring a child here would get him instant citizenship.
This woman doesn't care enough about her husband and younger children to go home to live with them in Mexico. Marriages that can only last in the USA and with welfare handouts are shams.
OK. I re-read the article. The oldest one is definitely not his. The 8 yr, maybe or maybe not. It doesn't say how long they've actually BEEN together. They've been married for 5 yrs, but who's to say how long they were together before the marriage. However, the 2 youngest have to be b/c they think that they would help his case. Otherwise she would have kept them here. It says that she was overwhelmed and that's why she sent them to live with him, but that's still no excuse to send them away. The seperation of this family is her fault not immigration's, SHE sent the kids away. To be honest, I wouldn't move there either while the paperwork is being done. I wouldn't want my daughter growing up there. There are some nice places in MX, but still.... It does say that she has visited, and it didn't say that she is considering divorce so it's possible that it's not a sham and she's willing to wait. I'm waiting for my bf and we're not even married. So I guess only time will tell with this family.
Joe

United States

#15 Oct 12, 2008
jadzzea wrote:
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OK. I re-read the article. The oldest one is definitely not his. The 8 yr, maybe or maybe not. It doesn't say how long they've actually BEEN together. They've been married for 5 yrs, but who's to say how long they were together before the marriage. However, the 2 youngest have to be b/c they think that they would help his case. Otherwise she would have kept them here. It says that she was overwhelmed and that's why she sent them to live with him, but that's still no excuse to send them away. The seperation of this family is her fault not immigration's, SHE sent the kids away. To be honest, I wouldn't move there either while the paperwork is being done. I wouldn't want my daughter growing up there. There are some nice places in MX, but still.... It does say that she has visited, and it didn't say that she is considering divorce so it's possible that it's not a sham and she's willing to wait. I'm waiting for my bf and we're not even married. So I guess only time will tell with this family.
She could go and live there with her two older kids until he gets his papers straightened out. She's obviously not got a problem with her kids being in Mexico, it's apparently a fine place for her younger children to be, so that excuse doesn't hold water for this woman.

Since 2 of her children were sent to Mexico by the woman herself and her husband is there, the only thing that seems to be stopping her from living there even temporarily is money -- her own greed. It's amazing that a woman would prefer money to her own young children.

Since: May 08

Aurora, IN

#16 Oct 12, 2008
Joe wrote:
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She could go and live there with her two older kids until he gets his papers straightened out. She's obviously not got a problem with her kids being in Mexico, it's apparently a fine place for her younger children to be, so that excuse doesn't hold water for this woman.
Since 2 of her children were sent to Mexico by the woman herself and her husband is there, the only thing that seems to be stopping her from living there even temporarily is money -- her own greed. It's amazing that a woman would prefer money to her own young children.
Like I said, I wouldn't move there either, and monetary reasons are part of it. I have a little girl and I know I can give her a better life here. If I didn't have her I probably still wouldn't MOVE there, I like hot running water to bathe in.(Which is not available where my bf lives, unless of course you have plenty of money.) Visits are much nicer even if a bit expensive. There's nothing wrong or greedy with her waiting up here, especially if they plan on him coming back. What I disagree w/ is her sending her 2 youngest down there knowing that they would have a better life here and her blaming her problems on others. She should have known that she needed to ask advice from a LAWYER, not a radio show. And as long as she works, I see no problem w/ her getting Govt assistance to help her take care of her kids.
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#17 Oct 12, 2008
Joe wrote:
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She could go and live there with her two older kids until he gets his papers straightened out. She's obviously not got a problem with her kids being in Mexico, it's apparently a fine place for her younger children to be, so that excuse doesn't hold water for this woman.
Since 2 of her children were sent to Mexico by the woman herself and her husband is there, the only thing that seems to be stopping her from living there even temporarily is money -- her own greed. It's amazing that a woman would prefer money to her own young children.
Really! To up and give your children away and in another country yet is beyond belief.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#18 Oct 13, 2008
PSL wrote:
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Really! To up and give your children away and in another country yet is beyond belief.
Though thousands do it every year in various ways. We have parents leaving the raising of kids to nannies while they jetset around the world, party, go out, etc evey night.

We have illegals leaving their children to come here or leaving children here to return to their countries. Dang we even have legal immigrants doing this!

Do they even think of the repercussions on the kids? No.

I know of a legal immigrant family with the youngest 16. Parents are planning on returning to their homeland in order to open a business. Youngest will be left with older sibling. Now the siblings have told parents that the youngest will have no medical insurance once the parents leave and could be considered abandoned. They are doing fine in the US but father misses homeland. And it is across the ocean. Oldest is trying to get parents to sign over legal custody so youngest can be covered by her insurance, etc.

Do the parents ever think how this affects the kids? No.

Is it a wonder we have kids from all walks of life turning to gangs and such to get some form of "stability" and sense of belonging? No.

When the family is also engaging in illegal activity one way or another, it is unconscionable (?sp).

I am sick of kids being the victims of parent's lack of judgement.

And it is not a poor thing either, Britney Spears has surely proven that! She is the victim of her parent's issues and passed it right on to her own sons. And Jamie Lynn is reported pregnant again. It is hard enough when you raise your kids the best you can and they make bad choices. But when the parents make bad choices, it increases the chance the kids will.
Race Car Mom

Raleigh, NC

#19 Oct 13, 2008
I know this couple personaly. In fact in the business world, I am associated with them in two ways. Perhaps you should stop raging on about how awful you think she is and how you think she is all about money etc. Let me tell you all a thing or two. She struggles to make ends meet! She loves her husband and all of her children dearly. I have been in there home here in Durham prior to his return back to Mexico. They are a typical family, and they make sure that the kids answer you with respect. No Ma'am and Yes Ma'am. As a christian, I can not take the approach that she should suffer over this. He went back to Mexico to make things right, so he could return here, raise his family and Financially and emotionaly support them.

It is really sad and heartbreaking that he was mis-guided.
Bill

United States

#20 Oct 13, 2008
And I'll just bet they all have an excuse or someone making excuses for them. Illegal is illegal. Our country is full of illegals and there are NO excuses for their behavior.

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