Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

I am always amazed when I think back to the way I was vaccinated. I was in the early group that got vaccinated in my elementary school. I remember they lined all of the classes up in the Hall and took us class by class into the nurses office. There were a couple of people giving out the vaccine, and I assumed they were doctors but could have been from the vaccine company. I don't believe that my parents had been notified before the vaccine was given. They did mail a small care home that stated I received the polio vaccine. I think I still have that care to this day. I believe that I received the Salk vaccine

Lastly, there are some doctors who feel that CFS and nonpolio enteroviruses emerged as a direct result of polio vaccine. Check out www.whale.to/w/douglas.html

Patty


http://www.whale.to/a/bruno.html

June, 2002 by Dr. Richard L. Bruno


Have you heard of a Dr. William Campbell Douglas and his contention that polio "may be with us again in a disguised form" and that the oral polio vaccine is causing PPS and chronic fatigue syndrome? Could this be true?

I have read Dr. Douglas' writings. He also says polio is "more common than ever." But I don't think he means that the three polioviruses are more common than ever, are "with us again in a disguised form" or that the oral polio vaccine is causing PPS and chronic fatigue syndrome. That is not to say that Dr. Douglas isn't on the right track about "polio" being with us again and that the oral polio vaccine is indirectly "causing" PPS and chronic fatigue syndrome.

This is because something unexpected, frightening and totally unrecognized happened after the polio vaccine was distributed: The number of cases of CFS/ME went through the roof.

British infectious disease specialist Elizabeth Dowsett plotted the cases of CFS/ME she and CFS/ME pioneer MeIvin Ramsay had seen in their practice since 1919 against reported cases of polio in England. When the Salk and then Sabin vaccines brought the yearly number of British polio cases below 25 in the early 1960s, the number of CFS/ME patients took off. In Ramsay's and Dowsett's practice alone, between 1960 and 1980 the number of CFS/ME patients increased by fifty times. Between 1980 and 1990, the number of patients with CFS/ME increased yet again by a factor of fifty! Throughout the world 32 CFS/ME outbreaks were recorded after the polio vaccine was distributed. So something other than the poliovirus was causing CFS/ME.

What is that something? It appears that the vaccine that eliminated polio had an unintended consequence. The elimination of the three types of poliovirus left a vacuum that had to be filled. Just as a flock of dominant and aggressive blue jays blocks less aggressive robins from roosting in your back yard, poliovirus are the blue jays of enteroviruses, the viruses that live and grow in your intestines. When poliovirus "blue jays" disappeared from your intestines thanks to the vaccine, other enteroviruses "robins" took over the poliovirus' old intestinal breeding ground and filled the vacuum. With the polioviruses gone other enteroviruses were able to multiply, spill into the bloodstream and enter the spinal cord and brain.

In 1990 Dr. Dowsett looked for antibodies to non-polio enterovirus in her CFS/ME patients. Fifty percent had antibodies to the first non-polio enterovirus ever discovered -- the Coxsackie B virus -- named after Coxsackie, New York, the town where it was found to have paralyzed children in 1948.

Yes, paralyzed. It is not just the polioviruses that enter and kill neurons in the spinal cord and brain stem. Neuron damage, weakness, paralysis and symptoms of brain fatigue caused by non-polio enteroviruses can be so similar as to be indistinguishable from the actions of polioviruses. One Coxsackie virus, named A7, produces paralytic symptoms so similar to polio that it has been named poliovirus "Type IV."

Other enteroviruses that cause damage and symptoms similar to the polioviruses include all the other Coxsackie viruses, the ECHO viruses (which in 1956 were the first viruses associated with a CFS/ME outbreak) and the recently discovered Enteroviruses 71. One piece of evidence directly links an enterovirus to CFS/ME and damage to the neurons that activate the brain. Sadly, the evidence comes from a CFS/ME patient who took her own life. Traces of Coxsackie B virus -- the same virus for which Dowsett found antibodies in her CFS/ME patients -- was found in both the hypothalamus and brain stem, the very heart of the brain activating system which our and others' research has found is damage in polio survivors with fatigue and in patients with CFS/ME.

So the "disguised form" that polio may be talking is not a disguise at all but replacement by another enterovirus. And the oral polio vaccine is "causing" chronic fatigue syndrome by making way for other enterovirus to grow in the intestines and be able to do damage like that done by the poliovirus, except that the damage is most frequently found in brain activating system neurons and causes fatigue, not in the spinal cord causing paralysis.


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Dr. Richard Bruno is Director of Fatigue Management Programs and The Post-Polio Institute at Englewood (NJ)
Hospital and Medical Center. His new book, THE POLIO PARADOX: UNCOVERING THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF POLIO TO UNDERSTAND TREAT "POST-POLIO SYNDROME" AND CHRONIC FATIGUE, is published by Warner Books.(AOL Keyword POLIO PARADOX.) E-mail questions to him at PolioParadox@aol.com
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Monday, Aug. 7, 2006
India Officials: Coke, Pepsi Contain Harmful Levels of Pesticides
The group said that Coke samples had 25 times the amount of pesticides as three years ago, while Pepsi products contained 30 times more.

Coca-Cola syrup is shipped from the U.S. to bottling plants around the world, and mixed with local water.[Thus the question, is it India's water or the imported syrup, or both, that are polluted with pesticides. In any case, pesticide poisoning is a primary cause of polio.]

From Source: http://www.vaccines.plus.com.wstub.archive.or...
How Statistics reveal the secrets of polio - and WHO

How the polio epidemics vanished.

We are told by the World Health Organisation that the polio is nearly exterminated - and that in the four years from 1994 to 1997 that there were only 8 cases of polio in the SE/E Asia region - but this is their graph for the number of cases of Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) for the same period and the same region. AFP was called polio at the time when the vaccines were developed against polio- but after disccovering the vaccine was ineffective against most cases of polio/AFP, they simply renamed the disease. There is no clinical difference between cases of AFP with the polio virus present or without the polio virus present - it is identical as far as paralysis, pain, disability and treatment is concerned - down to the same damage of the same cells. AFP and polio are thus, clinically the same disease. The presence of this virus thus seems an irrelevancy - it certainly is not the cause of the disease called polio at the time that it was given the name of "poliovirus. Likewise the polio vacine is not stopping the disease it originally targetted.
As these statistics reveal, the number of cases of the disease once called polio is instead sharply increasing.

Now go sit down and shut the f**k up and drink your kool aid. you corporate media, brain washed, mind controlled zombie.

Danger_Close wrote:

Now go sit down and shut the f**k up and drink your kool aid. you corporate media, brain washed, mind controlled zombie.

Says the person who just copy-pasted entire walls-o-text because she (he?) doesn't know how to articulate intelligent responses herself, and must rely on being brainwashed/mind-controlled by corporations wanting to sell "alternatives" to vaccines.

Obvious Troll is OBVIOUS!!!

You just got WTFPWNEDBBQed and that's the best you can come up with.

SAD!

what's wrong with your response? Well lets just start and end with your statement of "must rely on being brainwashed/mind-controlled by corporations wanting to sell "alternatives" to vaccines."

It's called BREAST FEED your children of that thousands of years worth of antibodies are passed down to them. Eat heirloom veggies and not GMO foods.

Do not eat processed foods, HFC, fluoridated water, FD&C coloring, eat LOTS of fresh fruit and veggies, Do not eat pork and very little red mead, and get LOTS of sunshine(vit D which boost the immune system).

so again... go sit down in a corner and let the big kids play.

Try doing a little research and you will find that vit D is one of the biggest boosters of the immune system and the reason more people get ill in the winter months is because they are not outside in the sun as much.

FACT!!!

Top Mod 8 wrote:

Should the state should mandate immunizations for your children? Do you feel they are safe for all children. Do they cause other health issues like autism? Should the state also pay for them as well if they are requiring them?

Yes from the dumb down syndrome from our dumb local florida state actually execution is much better prefer they are useless punk with no taste for real music as start . rap rap go to hell "and this are white boys"

lol wrote:

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Says the person who just copy-pasted entire walls-o-text because she (he?) doesn't know how to articulate intelligent responses herself, and must rely on being brainwashed/mind-controlled by corporations wanting to sell "alternatives" to vaccines.

Do you have a valid refute to invalidate his post? Obviously not, otherwise you would have posted it instead of resorting to insults as a lame attempt at diversion.

let me think..measles,whooping cough,polio,mumps,rubella.all basically non-existent now due to vaccinations (altho measles is making a comeback to non-vaccinated ppl) ..or a small possibility of a theory of autism..Ill give my kids the vaccination..

They can mandate all they want, this is one issue they will have to force on people and it won't be pretty. My son will NOT have shots that could and have killed before.

hmmm wrote:

let me think..measles,whooping cough,polio,mumps,rubella.all basically non-existent now due to vaccinations (altho measles is making a comeback to non-vaccinated ppl)..or a small possibility of a theory of autism..Ill give my kids the vaccination..

If your going to inject your kids with toxic contaminated filth then keep them away from mine.

dont you know wrote:

your child does not have to have them. You can elect not to have them.

not if the state Mandated them, they would become required.

whothehellcares wrote:

They can mandate all they want, this is one issue they will have to force on people and it won't be pretty. My son will NOT have shots that could and have killed before.

Then I suppose you intend to educate your child at home!

WTH wrote:

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If your going to inject your kids with toxic contaminated filth then keep them away from mine.

then you keep your whooping cough,measle,mumps etc infected kids out of USA so you dont infect the newborns who havent been vaccinated yet..vaccinations have saved many many lives over the past..you're a idiot for not wanting to keep your kids safe

hmmm wrote:

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then you keep your whooping cough,measle,mumps etc infected kids out of USA so you dont infect the newborns who havent been vaccinated yet..vaccinations have saved many many lives over the past..you're a idiot for not wanting to keep your kids safe

Should we also kick out everyone with aids?

Milo wrote:

<quoted text>Should we also kick out everyone with aids?

well your comment is pretty stupid considering they don't have a vaccination to prevent aids yet but if there was and these same ppl didn't want to get vaccinated against it then yup they can stay away too

vaccinationcouncil.org ... this is a doctor sponsored website that recommends against vaccines based on many peer reviewed studies.

hmmm wrote:

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well your comment is pretty stupid considering they don't have a vaccination to prevent aids yet but if there was and these same ppl didn't want to get vaccinated against it then yup they can stay away too

So you aren't worried about keeping your kids safe from a fatal much more common disease since it doesn't have a vaccine?

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/06/25/...

Vaccinated children are known to be more sickly when it comes to colds, ear infections, the flu, asthma, etc.

Basically their "enhanced" immune system cannot fight very contagious and common illnesses that can also kill if left untreated. Plus, damage to kidneys, brain and more of a likelihood of behavioral problems has been found to occur almost 150% in vaccinated children. Have fun damaging your child.

ok explain how then the number of chicken pox cases have declined dramatically.When I was younger almost every kid in my school had the chicken pox before they graduated..nowdays You may hear of a case every so often but NOTHING like it use to be.If these vaccinations are useless then how are these illnesses just going away..Explain that one