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German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours of Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank has said ... Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50% of the nation's midday electricity needs.

That's right—half of all of Germany was powered by electricity generated by solar plants. That's incredible. It was also world record-breaking. Germany is pretty much singlehandedly proving that solar can be a major, reliable source of power—even in countries that aren't all that sunny.

http://www.treehugger.com/energy-policy/half-...
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Heisenberg49 wrote:
German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours of Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank has said ... Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50% of the nation's midday electricity needs.
That's right—half of all of Germany was powered by electricity generated by solar plants. That's incredible. It was also world record-breaking. Germany is pretty much singlehandedly proving that solar can be a major, reliable source of power—even in countries that aren't all that sunny.
http://www.treehugger.com/energy-policy/half-...
wunderbar meine freund,when are you going to move? nicht vergessen that on Sundays you can do nothing that makes noise,no car washing,no lawn mowing etc. only emergency services are available on sundays,no shopping etc. enjoy your time in the sun!
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Milt wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/envi ronment/georgemonbiot/2010/mar /11/solar-power-germany-feed-i n-tariff
This article was posted on Thursday March 11, 2010 and thus is obviously outdated.
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Heisenberg49 wrote:
German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours of Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank has said ... Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50% of the nation's midday electricity needs.
That's right—half of all of Germany was powered by electricity generated by solar plants. That's incredible. It was also world record-breaking. Germany is pretty much singlehandedly proving that solar can be a major, reliable source of power—even in countries that aren't all that sunny.
http://www.treehugger.com/energy-policy/half-...
And they have solar powered ovens as well! And we all know what the Germans do with ovens, don't we?

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Heisenberg49 wrote:
German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours of Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank has said ... Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50% of the nation's midday electricity needs.
That's right—half of all of Germany was powered by electricity generated by solar plants. That's incredible. It was also world record-breaking. Germany is pretty much singlehandedly proving that solar can be a major, reliable source of power—even in countries that aren't all that sunny.
http://www.treehugger.com/energy-policy/half-...
You post a bs article from TREEHUGGERS? Oh come on. They are...treehuggers. They dream big.

Here are some facts for you:

IS PV SOLAR A SUCCESS STORY IN GERMANY?

Total Cost: Germany’s total cost of its PV solar systems is about 100 billion euros capital cost by the end of 2011 + 100 billion euros subsidy cost by the end of 2031 = 200 billion euros, and counting as more PV systems are added.



Subsidy Cost: Under Germany's Renewable Energy Law, EEG, each new system qualifies for 20 years of subsidies. According to the Rhine-Westphalia Institute for Economic Research, RWI, the 7,500 MW of solar systems connected to the grid in 2011 will cost electricity customers about 18 billion euros in subsidies over the next 20 years, in addition to the 30 billion euros to install them; the useful service life of the panels ia about 25 years. RWI expert Manuel Frondel states: "The demand for subsidies is growing and growing. If all commitments to pay subsidies are added together, we have already exceeded the 100 billion euro level."

Solar system owners collected more than 8 billion euros ($10.6 billion) in subsidies in 2011 (5.1 billion euros in 2010), but the electricity they generated was just 3 percent of the total energy production in 2011.


http://theenergycollective.com/node/74847

The inefficient, Rube-Goldberg, EEG subsidizing scheme of robbing Peter (the 97% without solar systems) to pay Paul (the 3% with solar systems) creates unacceptable inequities, especially for lower income households without solar systems, and inefficiencies throughout the economy. The PR mantra of renewables promotors justifying subsidies, because they are saving the world from global warming/climate change, is self-serving in the extreme. See URL.

http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/69...
http://theenergycollective.com/willem-post/71...

Solar Energy Production: Germany’s solar systems are mostly located in southern Germany; it is more sunny than northern Germany. On sunny summer days, especially around noontime, solar generation is well over 12,000 MW which exceeds what can be used to serve the demand of southern Germany or sent to northern Germany. If France needs it, the excess energy is usually exported to France at low prices, because economically viable, utility-scale, battery-type storage does not exist. If France, or others, do not need the excess energy, it is fed into the ground, i.e., wasted.

Germany’s national PV solar capacity factor for true-south-facing, correctly-angled, single-axis systems is about 0.115, but the actual CF is about 0.95, due to roofs being not true-south-facing and not correctly-angled, and because panels are aging (about 0.5%/yr), being partially shaded, and dust and snow covered.

Typically, solar energy is minimal in the morning, maximal at noon about 3-4 hours before peak demand, minimal in the evening, minimal on cloudy days, minimal with snow on the panels, and zero at night. That means there is about zero solar energy for at least 65-70% of the hours of a year.

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<quoted text>And they have solar powered ovens as well! And we all know what the Germans do with ovens, don't we?
Not funny. Ever know anyone that survived the Holocaust? I do.

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Another view of what solar can do to the enviroment

http://solardoneright.org/
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Heisenberg49 wrote:
German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity – equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity – through the midday hours of Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank has said ... Norbert Allnoch, director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry in Muenster, said the 22 gigawatts of solar power fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50% of the nation's midday electricity needs.
That's right—half of all of Germany was powered by electricity generated by solar plants. That's incredible. It was also world record-breaking. Germany is pretty much singlehandedly proving that solar can be a major, reliable source of power—even in countries that aren't all that sunny.
http://www.treehugger.com/energy-policy/half-...
The other half of Germany we left in rubble
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I hereby crown Sarah--- COPY AND PASTE QUEEN!
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half the power half of the time. its still dark at night in germay too

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lilypad wrote:
I hereby crown Sarah--- COPY AND PASTE QUEEN!
lmao thanks...I think?
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Sarah you listen to Rush and Fox way to much.

Your mind (or what's left of it) is mush.

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Sam wrote:
Sarah you listen to Rush and Fox way to much.
Your mind (or what's left of it) is mush.
I don't listen to either unless you know something I don't?

Stop with the fake names, Warren. Your MO is showing
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His MO? Male organ? lol

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His MO? Male organ? lol
If that is showing then we need a magnifying glass to see it...heh heh
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Not funny. Ever know anyone that survived the Holocaust? I do.
What you really mean is it's not funny to YOU, you typically humorless right wing stuffed shirt. You're just like Joe White, without the dick. Hmmm, now that I think about it, that might be a couple of assumptions I shouldn't make, that you DON'T have a dick and Joe White DOES!!
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Im Sarah wrote:
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If that is showing then we need a magnifying glass to see it...heh heh
don't forget the tweezers as well!
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<quoted text>What you really mean is it's not funny to YOU, you typically humorless right wing stuffed shirt. You're just like Joe White, without the dick. Hmmm, now that I think about it, that might be a couple of assumptions I shouldn't make, that you DON'T have a dick and Joe White DOES!!
Lmao!!!!

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