Nothing to see here. Move along....

What are you talking about Jade? If you have something to say just say it.
I don't think Holly is the type to take the fall for anybody. He would protect his ass to the end. I have seen him lie under oath before if it suits his interest.

We have no facts here and probably a bit of fiction, until proven otherwise. Prove any points being made or let it go. Otherwise it's useless and allways harmfull gossip. That's my only point.

So why not have a little fun and gossip away?

Sometimes if there is enough gossip those who are being talked about come forward and clear the air. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have seen even one article in the paper if people in town hadn't been talking about it.

How is it gossip to talk about someone taking a stroll wearing a straw hat?

Cat in the Hat wrote:

How is it gossip to talk about someone taking a stroll wearing a straw hat?

It reminds me of the ministers wife on the TV show The Simpsons.

Ann wrote:

I have seen him lie under oath before if it suits his interest.

As have I, first hand, multiple times and not just in things have affected me. It is true, that simply being investigated does not equal guilt. Having said that, when the person involved has shown a repeated unwillingness to show simple honesty to you or others you know, it makes you take notice.

Move on wrote:

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It reminds me of the ministers wife on the TV show The Simpsons.

Now I understand why you would think such a thing. In my opinion, you should maybe try and exercise your brain with more intelligent matter.

Roy wrote:

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Now I understand why you would think such a thing. In my opinion, you should maybe try and exercise your brain with more intelligent matter.

Do you refer to the T.V. show or reading your posts?

Well gossip gossip gossip the internet is made for Bisbee. In all reality hardly anyone cares untill it happens to them. I think the answers to all the rumors is of no importance, it is action that speaks for Bisbee. Of those who have never given anything to Bisbee with the exception of hot air, are dommed to live out their little lives with no say of how the city acts. And to those who do not live here now but love to tell us how to conform to their way of life, contact those who live here, but they just must change it and give them your address and invite them to come live in your city. As for Ed Holly well no comment

Aww you guessed wrote:

Anybody remember:
The Cochise County Sheriff's "sustainable charges" and "continuing inquiry" into Lt. Ed Holly of BPD? The local weekly paper (family-connected to BPD) timidly tapped this story into the net -- where it has remained. The daily paper couldn't care less.
Or the BUSD exile and termination of its finance officer -- without due process or fair hearing? Despite Lee Spinks' best crusading, the weekly and the daily paper haven't TOUCHED this story -- and Matchett & Covington have it tamped down tight.
Anybody remember? Guess not.

I'm sort of new here. What connection does the weekly paper have to the BPD?(I presume you mean the Bisbee Observer.)

The owner of the paper has a brother who is a police officer.

Thank you.

Apathy wrote:

If you care so much, why don't you rile the Tucson news stations or papers to cover the story? Maybe that will put a little fire to it.

because Tucson doesn't care about Bisbee. Bisbee is terra incognita, get over yourselves. NOBODY CARES about Bisbee in Tucson.

Patti wrote:

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because Tucson doesn't care about Bisbee. Bisbee is terra incognita, get over yourselves. NOBODY CARES about Bisbee in Tucson.

You sure seem to care. That's why you are always trolling here. BTW, how was your Thanksgiving? I heard it was quite arresting. HAHAHAHAHA.

Patti wrote:

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because Tucson doesn't care about Bisbee. Bisbee is terra incognita, get over yourselves. NOBODY CARES about Bisbee in Tucson.

And nobody gives a crap about you, ANYWHERE.

Ed Holly resigned on Monday after being called into a pre-action termination hearing by the city. The results of the investigation into his conduct by the County Sheriff and requested by the city administration, along with other charges brought by fellow officers and superiors led to this resignation.

For those of you who think that a public employee can be simply fired, think again! The investigation was started in April, and the due process afforded to this man took a very long time.

Kudos to the City Manager, the City Attorney, the Personnel Director, the Poice Chief, and the many police officers who were willing to come forward to rid the city of a blight on our reputation and image as a community. It takes guts to come forward and do the right thing, something that's in short supply in Bisbee.

Bisbee Deputy Police Chief Ed Holly has resigned in the wake of an investigation that uncovered a long list of violations that include harassment, misuse of police equipment and lying to his superiors and investigators.
City officials were set to fire Holly, 58, but he resigned during a meeting this week with Bisbee officials where he could have pleaded his case, said City Manager Stephen Pauken. Holly had been with the Bisbee Police Department for 27 years, he said.
Violations found during the Cochise County Sheriff's Office investigation include:
• Holly used his Bisbee police vehicle to take his girlfriend to and from Tucson and Phoenix airports on separate occasions. He told his boss that she was a confidential informant who needed protection.
• He harassed, threatened and ran an unauthorized background check on a man he thought was interested in his girlfriend.
• On several occasions, Holly directed on-duty Bisbee police employees to take him to and from the houses of different women he was dating.
• He continued using his city-issued cell phone during a five-month period when he was on medical leave.
• Holly lied not only to his bosses but also to a Cochise County sheriff's investigator about his actions.
The city does not plan to pursue civil or criminal charges against Holly for any of his actions, Pauken said.
"It would be a little bit like beating a dead horse," Pauken said. "I don't think it's necessary in this context."
An Arizona Daily Star investigation found that Holly made more than $131,000 from 2007 to mid-2009 working border-security overtime shifts in a Department of Homeland Security program called Operation Stonegarden.
During a one-year period from March 2007 to March 2008, timecards show Holly worked an average of nearly 80 hours a week between regular and overtime hours. Bisbee Police Chief Jim Elkins defended the hours worked, but Bisbee Mayor Jack Porter said he wasn't sure Holly worked all the hours. Law enforcement experts said working that many hours is dangerous.
Based on the extra income, Holly would have been in line to make much more in retirement checks, but he had signed up for a delayed retirement option plan in 2002, Pauken said. The plan means neither the employee nor employer makes any more contributions.
And despite earning more money in 2007 and 2008 than ever before, thanks to the federal program, those years won't be counted toward the highest three consecutive years of pay that are used to calculate retirement.
His retirement was approved on Thursday by the Bisbee Pension Board, and his monthly check will be $2,400, records show. It would have been an estimated $5,000 a month had he not signed up for the delayed option.

The investigation
A Dec. 1 letter from Bisbee police chief Jim Elkins to Bisbee deputy police chief Ed Holly, obtained through a public information request, shows city officials had established six grounds on which to fire Holly:
1) Unlawful use of Arizona criminal justice information system. Holly obtained the name, address and criminal background information on a man he thought was seeing his girlfriend by running the man's driver's license through a records database. He had no law enforcement reason to get this information, the investigation found. With the information in hand, he told his girlfriend he knew where the man lived.
2) Conduct offensive to the public. The letter details three incidents. In the first in November 2008, Holly verbally harassed and intimated a man he thought had given his girlfriend his telephone number. After the man denied the claims, Holly told him "not to mess with me" and that he would be "looking for him."
The second incident occurred in July 2008 when, while on police duty, Holly stopped a man who knew that Holly was involved with a woman who was still living with a methamphetamine dealer. Holly told the man "not to be a snitch" in regard to telling others about his relationship with the woman.
The third incident happened in occurred in April 2009 when he was abusive, rude and insulting over the phone to a man he had accused of having relations with his girlfriend.
3) Misappropriation of city property. On separate occasions in 2008, Holly used a Bisbee police vehicle to drive a woman he was dating to and from airports in Tucson and Phoenix. Holly told his supervisors that he needed to transport a confidential informant to the airport for her personal safety. But his girlfriend was not an informant.
During his medical leave from duty from April - September 2009, Holly continued to use his city-issued cell phone.
4) Misuse and abuse of supervisory authority. On multiple occasions in 2008, Holly directed other on-duty police officers to take him to and from the houses of different women he was dating.
5) Failure to be truthful. In addition to lying about the reasons for taking his patrol vehicle to and from Tucson and Phoenix airports, Holly was deceptive and untruthful during an interview with the Cochise County Sheriff's investigator.
6) Failure to comply with lawful directive from supervisors. Despite receiving instructions from city officials to avoid talking or making contact with city employees during his administrative leave (pending the investigation), Holly twice approached chief Elkins to ask about the status of the investigation.

The Facts wrote:

Ed Holly resigned on Monday after being called into a pre-action termination hearing by the city. The results of the investigation into his conduct by the County Sheriff and requested by the city administration, along with other charges brought by fellow officers and superiors led to this resignation.
For those of you who think that a public employee can be simply fired, think again! The investigation was started in April, and the due process afforded to this man took a very long time.
Kudos to the City Manager, the City Attorney, the Personnel Director, the Poice Chief, and the many police officers who were willing to come forward to rid the city of a blight on our reputation and image as a community. It takes guts to come forward and do the right thing, something that's in short supply in Bisbee.

That is all well and good but Holly isn't the only dirty cop. As for taking guts to come forward? Many citizens have come forward to City Officials about crimes being committed along with evidence to support their claims. Let me tell you what happens to people who stumble onto something that isn't just right--they get harassed by the Police and the City. Guts is not in short supply in this town but fairness and justice is. Holly should go but so should others. Tell me the Police Chief who is his buddy didn't know what was going on. Investigation since this April! What is going on at that Police Department has been going on for decades.

The city does not plan to pursue civil or criminal charges against Holly for any of his actions, Pauken said.
"It would be a little bit like beating a dead horse," Pauken said. "I don't think it's necessary in this context."
Sounds like professional courtesy to me!