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Jun 27, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Antioch schools settle ACLU suit

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Stuck in Antioch

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Jun 29, 2009
 
What about my son who is white and gets targeted by kids of different colors. Calling him derogatory names and threatening violence. Will the ACLU be there to protect his interests? It seems likely they will not. And when u read this article can someone tell me what anecdotal evidence is and how it can be relevant in determining guilt?
Fabioso

Crawfordville, FL

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Jun 30, 2009
 

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The ACLU can't go after other kids. They could go after the school if there was some kind of policy or practice that resulted in discrimination (which is what they did here).

Understand the role of the ACLU before you start complaining.

Anecdotal evidence means there were instances where allegations seemed to be supported, but these instances were not consistent or widespread enough to be called conclusive evidence, i.e., "the plural of anecdote is not data."
Tarnel

Antioch, CA

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Jun 30, 2009
 
Yeah.. the ACLU isn't a non profit organization. They do recieve part of the settlements. It's just big business payed for by tax payers.
Fabioso

Crawfordville, FL

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Jul 1, 2009
 

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Tarnel wrote:
Yeah.. the ACLU isn't a non profit organization. They do recieve part of the settlements. It's just big business payed for by tax payers.
Funny, but tax records and state corporate databases say you are full of shit.

They are registered as a non-profit corporation.

ALL groups that engage in civil rights groups are sometimes entitled to awards when the government is found to have done wrong. To act like the ACLU is somehow different or special in this regard is very disingenuous.
ger

Antioch, CA

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Jul 1, 2009
 
Fabioso wrote:
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Funny, but tax records and state corporate databases say you are full of shit.
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Oh really? So how does that work. If a Government agency (Local or federal) is sued then where does the money "Sometimes" come from? From the employees?
Fabioso

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Jul 1, 2009
 

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ger wrote:
<quoted text>Oh really? So how does that work. If a Government agency (Local or federal) is sued then where does the money "Sometimes" come from? From the employees?
If the government loses, they pay. If you don't like it, tell Congress to repeal s. 1985

The ACLU is no different than any individual or organization that takes the government to task for what they do. Like the ADF. The NRA. The NAACP. The KKK, if their rights are being violated. The NOW. Baptists. Whatever. To act like the ACLU is somehow sponging off taxpayers is, as I have already said, disingenuous.

And the legal arm is a non-profit corporation. Their lobbying arm falls under some other kind of non-profit classification. This is true Federally and in every jurisdiction I'm aware of.

So yeah, you are full of shit.
ger

Antioch, CA

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Jul 1, 2009
 
Fabioso wrote:
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Funny, but tax records and state corporate databases say you are full of shit.
Well if the Government is sued then it is the tax payers who are paying the bill. There is a hole in your logic.
Fabioso

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Jul 6, 2009
 
ger wrote:
<quoted text> Well if the Government is sued then it is the tax payers who are paying the bill. There is a hole in your logic.
There's a hole in your head.

The law permits any group suing the government for redress of greivances (you know, that stuff in the Constitution). ANY GROUP or individual, and people and groups do it all the time.

To act like the ACLU is somehow special in this regard is horseshit.
Antioch Dying

Antioch, CA

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Jul 8, 2009
 

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I am sick of African Americans complaining about discrimination when many of the residence in Antioch abuse our system. Ghetto is not attractive. the only thing it shows is your ignorance and lack of respect for yourself and others. I am sure your mother is proud. Disgusting!! The minority students in the high school is made up of ignorant wonna be thugs!! Their parents should be ashamed because Martin Luther King would be appalled at what has become of the African Americans!!!
Terry

Antioch, CA

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Jul 11, 2009
 
Antioch Dying wrote:
I am sick of African Americans complaining about discrimination when many of the residence in Antioch abuse our system. Ghetto is not attractive. the only thing it shows is your ignorance and lack of respect for yourself and others. I am sure your mother is proud. Disgusting!! The minority students in the high school is made up of ignorant wonna be thugs!! Their parents should be ashamed because Martin Luther King would be appalled at what has become of the African Americans!!!
You said it well.
maria lafayette

Lafayette, CA

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Jul 11, 2009
 
Go aclu now you can destroy the schools in Antioch. It's hearbreaking to see what they have done.
chim chim bong boo

Antioch, CA

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Jul 11, 2009
 
They sue the city and who pays the lawsuit? Does it come out of the pockets of teachers (not that it should). No, In the end it comes out of the pockets of Tax payers. Why is the ACLU destroying Antioch? Why doesnt the ACLU go after the richie dot com'ers who bought up all the poor neighborhoods in the filmore to make it trendy? Because maybe it's all apart of a bigger system to push the troubled element away from the bay area and into the central valley. Antioch isn't the Bay Area. It's the gateway to the delta region. So it makes sense Antioch was chosen to be the first city to "dump" the troubled families. fking as5 fkrs.
Tom Hearndon

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Jul 15, 2009
 
Stuck in Antioch wrote:
What about my son who is white and gets targeted by kids of different colors. Calling him derogatory names and threatening violence. Will the ACLU be there to protect his interests? It seems likely they will not. And when u read this article can someone tell me what anecdotal evidence is and how it can be relevant in determining guilt?
No they won't. Nobody represents the interests of whites who are targeted by racists. It is of no interest and is a non-story. Get used to it.
Fabioso

Crawfordville, FL

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Jul 16, 2009
 
chim chim bong boo wrote:
They sue the city and who pays the lawsuit? Does it come out of the pockets of teachers (not that it should). No, In the end it comes out of the pockets of Tax payers. Why is the ACLU destroying Antioch? Why doesnt the ACLU go after the richie dot com'ers who bought up all the poor neighborhoods in the filmore to make it trendy? Because maybe it's all apart of a bigger system to push the troubled element away from the bay area and into the central valley. Antioch isn't the Bay Area. It's the gateway to the delta region. So it makes sense Antioch was chosen to be the first city to "dump" the troubled families. fking as5 fkrs.
"destroying Antioch"

LOL

Put the crack pipe down. The ACLU is doing nothing more than trying to make the government follow its own laws.

You people are unbelievably misinformed. Stop listening to far-right propanganda for once.
maria lafayette

Lafayette, CA

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Jul 16, 2009
 
The aclu is destroying a wonderful city like Antioch. how sad I had to move in 2002 why do they want to destroy this blue collar community these people are EVIL. the law is the law people of ANTIOCH please stand up and fight these socialist. the police are wonderful but they don't have a chance. HOW VERY SAD.
Fabioso

Crawfordville, FL

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maria lafayette wrote:
The aclu is destroying a wonderful city like Antioch. how sad I had to move in 2002 why do they want to destroy this blue collar community these people are EVIL. the law is the law people of ANTIOCH please stand up and fight these socialist. the police are wonderful but they don't have a chance. HOW VERY SAD.
Really? Burning and looting? Blowing up buildings?

It's quite obvious that you know very little about the ACLU and what they actually do and why.

You also don't seem to understand the difference between "libertarian" and "socialist."

HOW VERY SAD that you think our wonderful Constitution is "evil."
Papa pew

Antioch, CA

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Jul 17, 2009
 

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Fabioso wrote:
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"destroying Antioch"
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Put the crack pipe down. The ACLU is doing nothing more than trying to make the government follow its own laws.
You people are unbelievably misinformed. Stop listening to far-right propanganda for once.
Go to hell. I'm not a crackhead. I'm not far right or left. I'm just a middle class white middle age man who gets screwed by mostly White politicians (now becoming a class over race) and the damn liberal elite who pretend to care for the poor but somehow the poor gets some form of profit from these lawsuits in the form of a big free house payed by tax payers or from a huge settlement. Middle Class Gets Screwed. The Local Government Gets Screwed. The Federal Government pays for their free homes but don't pay for local government lawsuits. That lawsuit dips into funds alocated to the people from different cities and counties. It is our money that is taken away. they the local government wants to raise taxes a half a cent. This is just an endless cycle of crap.
Fabioso

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Papa pew wrote:
<quoted text>Go to hell. I'm not a crackhead. I'm not far right or left. I'm just a middle class white middle age man who gets screwed by mostly White politicians (now becoming a class over race) and the damn liberal elite who pretend to care for the poor but somehow the poor gets some form of profit from these lawsuits in the form of a big free house payed by tax payers or from a huge settlement. Middle Class Gets Screwed. The Local Government Gets Screwed. The Federal Government pays for their free homes but don't pay for local government lawsuits. That lawsuit dips into funds alocated to the people from different cities and counties. It is our money that is taken away. they the local government wants to raise taxes a half a cent. This is just an endless cycle of crap.
Like I said, this has little to do with the ACLU and more to do with your disagreement about the civil rights laws Congress passed in the 60's.

If government followed the rules, it wouldn't have to pay, would it? There has to be a deterrent, right?

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