Iowa County Chiropractor Suspended

Her transgressions?

Practicing with a lapsed license

Using a banned device to treat patients (device not named in press release)

Hiring an unlicensed chiropractor to treat patients in her clinic

Engaging in a sexual relationship with a patient

Providing false information to the board

Diagnosing patients based on handwriting samples and dreams

They characterized all this as "engaging in practice outside the proper boundaries of her license." They ordered that she take 18 hours of continuing education in patient boundaries, the scope of chiropractic practice and law and ethics for chiropractors. They did not recommend that she undergo any training in critical thinking or in how to use the scientific method to determine whether a diagnostic method works.

Diagnosing on the basis of handwriting analysis and dream interpretation? Do they teach that in chiropractic school? Is a one-year suspension enough? The really sad thing about this case is that she would never have been disciplined for woo-woo diagnostic methods alone. The board was not concerned that her methods were nonsensical, but only that they were not specified in state regulations as being within the scope of chiropractic practice.

I'm not aware of any case in any state where a chiropractor was disciplined for quackery alone. It appears that they can get away with all kinds of nonsense as long as no patients complain that they have been demonstrably harmed, and as long as they don't get caught having sex with their patients. I know of a one case in Washington State where a chiropractor was caught lying to the board and the board still failed to act. I know of another where the chiropractor was doing chiropractic treatments without touching patients and appeared to believe that she was touching them even when confronted with video evidence to the contrary and the board failed to act until they found deficiencies in record-keeping and other peripheral details that they thought were more important.

This makes me angry, but perhaps I expect too much. Medical boards are no better. In a recent case in my state, an MD got away with similarly nonsensical practices until a patient complained, and then the response of the board was inadequate. It seems boards are designed to enforce the letter of the law, not to protect the public from quackery.

Carl, chiropractic quackery is alive and well. There are currently more than 200+ completely different chiropractic hoax's, I mean, "techniques" being perpetrated upon the unsuspecting public.

For example, there are hundreds, if not thousands of chiropractors, who praactice upper cervical chiropractic. These quacks, errr, ummm, chiropractors will tweak the atlas, top, vertebrae for every and any patient that walks into their office for any and all conditions.

That, by definition, is lunacy.

Sure, some chiropractors use mild spinal manipulation which helps a limited set of patients with uncomplicated back and neck pain, but the overwhelming majority of chiropractors engage in pure nonsense.

And you are correct, NO chiropractor has ever been convicted or held accountable for using any of these bizarre chiropractic techniques/treatments. Let's be frank, chiropractic boards are made up primarily of other chiropractors. The first rule in chiropractic is "NEVER BUT NEVER CRITICIZE ANOTHER CHIROPRACTORS TECHNIQUE LEAST YOUR TECHNIQUE WILL BE CRITICIZED".

You mentioned the "scientific method". 99.9% of all chiropractic techniques have never undergone scientific scrutiny.

The fact remains that chiropractic students have virtually no clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating truly ill or injured patients. The typical chiropractic student "sees" about 2 dozen or so people with simple back and neck condition before they graduate. Contrast that to the many hundreds and thousands of patients medical doctors see before they finish their residencies.

Chiropractors then graduate and freely pick any bizarre technique to use in their practices. There are no "best practices" guidelines as to use which particular technique for any particular condition. Some choose to never manipulate spines at all (I know, it's crazy), some tweak just the upper vertebrae for every condition they encounter, some put blocks under hips for every condition, and some, like the chiroquacker in the article above, treat without ever touching the patient (talk about "light force" technique, ha ha ).

The chiropractic diaper needs to be emptied. Fast.

Wisdom wrote:

Carl, chiropractic quackery is alive and well. There are currently more than 200+ completely different chiropractic hoax's, I mean, "techniques" being perpetrated upon the unsuspecting public.
For example, there are hundreds, if not thousands of chiropractors, who praactice upper cervical chiropractic. These quacks, errr, ummm, chiropractors will tweak the atlas, top, vertebrae for every and any patient that walks into their office for any and all conditions.
That, by definition, is lunacy.
Sure, some chiropractors use mild spinal manipulation which helps a limited set of patients with uncomplicated back and neck pain, but the overwhelming majority of chiropractors engage in pure nonsense.
And you are correct, NO chiropractor has ever been convicted or held accountable for using any of these bizarre chiropractic techniques/treatments. Let's be frank, chiropractic boards are made up primarily of other chiropractors. The first rule in chiropractic is "NEVER BUT NEVER CRITICIZE ANOTHER CHIROPRACTORS TECHNIQUE LEAST YOUR TECHNIQUE WILL BE CRITICIZED".
You mentioned the "scientific method". 99.9% of all chiropractic techniques have never undergone scientific scrutiny.
The fact remains that chiropractic students have virtually no clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating truly ill or injured patients. The typical chiropractic student "sees" about 2 dozen or so people with simple back and neck condition before they graduate. Contrast that to the many hundreds and thousands of patients medical doctors see before they finish their residencies.
Chiropractors then graduate and freely pick any bizarre technique to use in their practices. There are no "best practices" guidelines as to use which particular technique for any particular condition. Some choose to never manipulate spines at all (I know, it's crazy), some tweak just the upper vertebrae for every condition they encounter, some put blocks under hips for every condition, and some, like the chiroquacker in the article above, treat without ever touching the patient (talk about "light force" technique, ha ha ).
The chiropractic diaper needs to be emptied. Fast.

Totally agree with WiseDump "The Moron Diaper Boy" He's right. Oh, and he found a friend--a kindred spirit of sorts. Atta boy! Way to go, diaper. And I must agree with you. The sins this chiropractor did are much worse than abortions and botched surgeries. What difference does it matter if a lousy surgeon isn't suspended for killing or maiming a patient--as long as he was licensed. That's what counts. Go late term abortions! Gotta love these guys who do them. So, yes, dipe, you're right. Chiropractors do much worse things than that. Botched abortions can't hold a candle to the way that little clicker maims patients. You are so right. I agree with you. Now empty that fecal matter in your head you pass off for a brain.

As every one can see, the chiropractor above defends chiropractic quackery by .... guess,......yes,,,,,what they always do......bashing medicine.

So very typical. So very illogical.

And lets be frank, what exactly would a chiropractor now about medicine anyway?

More evidence that the chiropractic diaper is full.

Wisdom wrote:

As every one can see, the chiropractor above defends chiropractic quackery by .... guess,......yes,,,,,what they always do......bashing medicine.
So very typical. So very illogical.
And lets be frank, what exactly would a chiropractor now about medicine anyway?
More evidence that the chiropractic diaper is full.

Hey creepdom, no one is bashing medicine. I agree that late term abortions are much safer than that 'clicker'. And the doctors who perform them should hoist a few and go golfing with their buddies after they perform them. Much, much safer and moral than a nucca adjustment.

Sounds like you might be ready to discuss chiropractic techniques.

Great, you mentioned "nucca", please list the diseases that nucca can successfully treat. Please list those studies.

You also mentioned the "clicker", otherwise known as "activator", developed by the ultimate quack fuhr. thousands of chiropractors use ONLY the clicker, basically a reconditioned dental instrument, they use to click spines and "treat disease". These chiropractors use the clicker and claim they can treat disorders like bed wetting and parkinsons and cancer.(I will provide the links if you continue to deny this).

So please list those studies which support activator as the treatment of choice for, let's start with just a few diseases to keep it simple. Shall we. lets see those studies mr. chiropractor. You are a licensed chiropractor aren't you? So lets see those studies.

If you have no studies, please don't continue your ad hominem rants, just say... "You are correct wisdom, we have no studies".

Then you can try to debate this fact.....

"The fact remains that chiropractic students have virtually no clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating truly ill or injured patients. The typical chiropractic student "sees" about 2 dozen or so people with simple back and neck condition before they graduate. Contrast that to the many hundreds and thousands of patients medical doctors see before they finish their residencies.

Chiropractors then graduate and freely pick any bizarre technique to use in their practices. There are no "best practices" guidelines as to use which particular technique for any particular condition. Some choose to never manipulate spines at all (I know, it's crazy), some tweak just the upper vertebrae for every condition they encounter, some put blocks under hips for every condition, and some, like the chiroquacker in the article above, treat without ever touching the patient (talk about "light force" technique, ha ha )."

Oh and by the way, you did bash medicine, you quackers always do. It starts the first day of indoctrination, I mean chiropractic schooling.

Just a reminder for you quackers, medicine has nothing to do with your quack field. Nothing. Get over it.

Wisdom wrote:

Sounds like you might be ready to discuss chiropractic techniques.
Great, you mentioned "nucca", please list the diseases that nucca can successfully treat. Please list those studies.
You also mentioned the "clicker", otherwise known as "activator", developed by the ultimate quack fuhr. thousands of chiropractors use ONLY the clicker, basically a reconditioned dental instrument, they use to click spines and "treat disease". These chiropractors use the clicker and claim they can treat disorders like bed wetting and parkinsons and cancer.(I will provide the links if you continue to deny this).
So please list those studies which support activator as the treatment of choice for, let's start with just a few diseases to keep it simple. Shall we. lets see those studies mr. chiropractor. You are a licensed chiropractor aren't you? So lets see those studies.
If you have no studies, please don't continue your ad hominem rants, just say... "You are correct wisdom, we have no studies".
Then you can try to debate this fact.....
"The fact remains that chiropractic students have virtually no clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating truly ill or injured patients. The typical chiropractic student "sees" about 2 dozen or so people with simple back and neck condition before they graduate. Contrast that to the many hundreds and thousands of patients medical doctors see before they finish their residencies.
Chiropractors then graduate and freely pick any bizarre technique to use in their practices. There are no "best practices" guidelines as to use which particular technique for any particular condition. Some choose to never manipulate spines at all (I know, it's crazy), some tweak just the upper vertebrae for every condition they encounter, some put blocks under hips for every condition, and some, like the chiroquacker in the article above, treat without ever touching the patient (talk about "light force" technique, ha ha )."
Oh and by the way, you did bash medicine, you quackers always do. It starts the first day of indoctrination, I mean chiropractic schooling.
Just a reminder for you quackers, medicine has nothing to do with your quack field. Nothing. Get over it.

Direct question deserves a direct answer. Here is the question: What are your qualifications? What is your back ground? Are you a chiropractor? Did you ever practice? What makes you an expert other than saying you are? If I don't get a direct answer I'll know I'm dealing with a fraud.

"Sure, some chiropractors use mild spinal manipulation which helps a limited set of patients with uncomplicated back and neck pain, but the overwhelming majority of chiropractors engage in pure nonsense."

The "some" and "overwhemling majority" qualifiers seem to be without any factual foundation. Since you seem big on scientific method and critical thinking an analysis, I'm wondering if you could cite the factual basis for those qualifiers.

Andy M wrote:

"Sure, some chiropractors use mild spinal manipulation which helps a limited set of patients with uncomplicated back and neck pain, but the overwhelming majority of chiropractors engage in pure nonsense."
The "some" and "overwhemling majority" qualifiers seem to be without any factual foundation. Since you seem big on scientific method and critical thinking an analysis, I'm wondering if you could cite the factual basis for those qualifiers.

I've to just one thing to say to the above: Patient satisfaction.
There is huge evidence in the real world with real patients that chiropractic is effective. No one cares what non-practicing critics think. They simply don't know and their opinions are worthless--generally based on jealousy and ignorance.