IUP student shot outside Indiana bar

my kid is a student there and I'm glad this is her last year. There have been many overdoses, shootings and murders in the l;ast four years. Don't know why I thought things would be different in such a bucolic location.

parent wrote:

my kid is a student there and I'm glad this is her last year. There have been many overdoses, shootings and murders in the l;ast four years. Don't know why I thought things would be different in such a bucolic location.

It is very scary to have your child away from home. It is a horrible thing that happened to all involved and their families. But being out partying at 2am bar hopping can easily lead to these occurances. We just hope our children have good judgement when the time comes.

parent wrote:

my kid is a student there and I'm glad this is her last year. There have been many overdoses, shootings and murders in the l;ast four years. Don't know why I thought things would be different in such a bucolic location.

I will tell you why you didn't know - and you will be angry.

I lived and worked very near the IUP Campus. On dozens and dozens of occasions, we'd hear about drinking parties and rapes and over doses. My boss had a police scanner and we hears the police and ambulance get called to one of the dorms ALL the time.

IUP hushes up the problems and paints a nice picture of Indiana as an All American Town. Nothing is further from the truth!

20% of Indiana County residents live at or under the poverty level. With the recent upswing in unemployment, it may be more.

For YEARS, the Indiana Gazette did not publish ANY stories about trouble at IUP.

If you were given a picture of a pretty, quiet, safe town, you were LIED to.

I left Indiana in 2000 and I am so glad I did.

problems like assults happen ALL the time - its just not publicized

Angel of Dreams wrote:

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I will tell you why you didn't know - and you will be angry.
I lived and worked very near the IUP Campus. On dozens and dozens of occasions, we'd hear about drinking parties and rapes and over doses. My boss had a police scanner and we hears the police and ambulance get called to one of the dorms ALL the time.
IUP hushes up the problems and paints a nice picture of Indiana as an All American Town. Nothing is further from the truth!
20% of Indiana County residents live at or under the poverty level. With the recent upswing in unemployment, it may be more.
For YEARS, the Indiana Gazette did not publish ANY stories about trouble at IUP.
If you were given a picture of a pretty, quiet, safe town, you were LIED to.
I left Indiana in 2000 and I am so glad I did.
problems like assults happen ALL the time - its just not publicized

I went to school at IUP for four years. I went out on Thursday nights like everyone else. I now live close to IUP. I have a good friend who is a policeman in Indiana. Indiana is not a bad place. IUP is not a bad college. It is who you choose to be with and what you choose to do that makes all the difference.

Lets face it,every college has its problems. high schools
have problems also. You have to hope you raised your child to know how to behave. I live in a small town with a private college that has had the same problems as IUP. Why do people that live in college towns always seem to resent the college? If that college did not exist the unemployment rate in indiana would be worse.
When we attended open house our student leader made a good point, if you go looking for trouble in Indiana you will find it. It is up to the student to make wise choices.

iup mom wrote:

Lets face it,every college has its problems. high schools
have problems also. You have to hope you raised your child to know how to behave. I live in a small town with a private college that has had the same problems as IUP. Why do people that live in college towns always seem to resent the college? If that college did not exist the unemployment rate in indiana would be worse.
When we attended open house our student leader made a good point, if you go looking for trouble in Indiana you will find it. It is up to the student to make wise choices.

Thats it EXACTLY!!!

I have not lived in PA - specifically, Eastern Indiana County - for almost 10 years.

I was a desk clerk at a small motel on Wayne Avenue, next to several large IUP Dorms. I saw state police and Indy Boro Police and Citizens Ambulance going into the dorms while I was working. Never hear anything on WDAD or saw any news in the Gazette about why the police and ambulance was on campus.

I am almost 60 and I heard from IUP employees that alot of crime was stiffled because the IUP Administraters didn't want it to get out that drinking was bad.

In 1998, I can remember my boss placing these big blue emppty plastic drums next to his dumpster for recycling. The next day, all 5 of those 100 gallon drums were over flowing with empty beer cans. The dumpster was full with beer carn and liquor bottles.

The jobs at IUP aren't that great anymore - my neighbors were on the maintenance staff and as people retired, a contract crew was being phased in. No more state jobs.

I was to poor to afford an edication back in the late 1960's. The kids who attend college are so lucky and I wish them the best and hope and pray that they don't over do the booze.

I apologize for my typos

My kid goes to IUP. It's a fine school, with a great ROTC tradition. The problem is that they allow "youths' with criminal records to go to school there under the guise of affirmative action. Criminals shouldn't be on college campuses with kids. They shoot people, don't they?

IUP is listed as the 2nd biggest PARTY college in the U.S. with Ohio running a close 1st. Should have done more research!! Whats your daughter doing tonight?? This town has more Bars than Churches!!!

What would having more churches do? Religion is an outdated concept for fools.

sonny wrote:

IUP is listed as the 2nd biggest PARTY college in the U.S. with Ohio running a close 1st.

<p><font color = "blue"> Some confuse the State of Indiana, home of Indiana University, with Indiana Pa, home of IUP, which is not on the party school list. Maybe you were thinking of Penn State.: </font><p>
The nation's top party schools, according to Princeton Review's 2009 survey of 122,000 students.

1. Penn State University, State College, Pa.

2. University of Florida, Gainesville, Fla.

3. University of Mississippi, Oxford, Miss.

4. University of Georgia, Athens, Ga.

5. Ohio University, Athens, Ohio

6. West Virginia University, Morgantown, W.Va.

7. University of Texas, Austin, Texas

8. University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wis.

9. Florida State University, Tallahassee, Fla.

10. University of California-Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, Calif.

11. University of Colorado, Boulder, Colo.

12. University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa

13. Union College, Schenectady, N.Y.

14. Indiana University, Bloomington, Ind.

15. DePauw University, Greencastle, Ind.

16. University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tenn.

17. Sewanee: The University of the South, Sewanee, Tenn.

18. University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, N.D.

19. Tulane University, New Orleans, La.

20. Arizona State University, Tempe, Ariz.

...and this blog is about Penn!

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I was born and raised in Indiana County. Lived there for 40 years. The problem with ANY college is that the administrators cover every thing up for fear of losing student admissions. The only time you will hear anything about a college is when someone is killed. Look at what happened to VA tech a few years back and what just happened recently at Yale where they found the dead girl in the wall, she was killed by a maintance man. This happens in every town and college at one point or another. For the comment about Indiana county having 20% of it's residents below the poverty level, it is that way everywhere due to the economy. And for the person who said "if it wasn't for the college the poverty level would be higher", it IS that way in ANY college town, take away the college, take away hundreds of jobs. Indiana is a nice quiet town to live in, sure there are lots of bars, just like EVERY OTHER college town, you can only hope that when you send your child off to college, that you taught them better than to hang out in places that just ask for trouble.

IUP is very different than it was 10 years ago. They are now importing students from the inner cities (mostly Philly & NYC) by the truck load. It's gotten a lot worse, but it's probably still comparable to other campuses its size. There's lots of trouble to be found at IUP -if you go looking for it, but it is easily avoidable as well. What's still the same about IUP is how poorly the community treats the students. Sure there's the aholes that cause trouble and wreck properties, but if the town didn't have the students dumping money into it, they'd be driving 45 minutes to shop anywhere but at a Wal-Mart.

Hey pal you calling me a fool?

Look stick to the topix...I just sunk to your level...look around where ever religion goes away drugs shooting and worse follows...and thats the facts jack!!! Sorry to the posters for my first post!!