Wind-power growth could put prairie chickens on endangered list

It's more than just Prairie Chickens. It's all the neotropical migrants that will be slamming into the turbines during migration. Warblers, vireos, tanagers, thruhes, grosbeaks, flycatchers, cuckoos, buntings, orioles and many others that spend the summers here and winters in the south migrate during the night and often cannot see huge structures in their flight path, especially on foggy and rainy nights. There is an estimated 10 million birds that will be killed per year by the year 2030 due to the increased number of wind farms, including many along migration routes because of the strong wind patterns. That's not counting the large hawks, eagles, cranes and others sucked into the spinning blades during the day. Hawks fly through areas of strong wind currents such as mountain ridges and shorelines which is where many of these slaughter machines will be placed. Why are we letting the environmentalists destroy the world by caving into their "green" renewable energy propaganda?

Raptor in Michigan wrote:

It's more than just Prairie Chickens. It's all the neotropical migrants that will be slamming into the turbines during migration. Warblers, vireos, tanagers, thruhes, grosbeaks, flycatchers, cuckoos, buntings, orioles and many others that spend the summers here and winters in the south migrate during the night and often cannot see huge structures in their flight path, especially on foggy and rainy nights. There is an estimated 10 million birds that will be killed per year by the year 2030 due to the increased number of wind farms, including many along migration routes because of the strong wind patterns. That's not counting the large hawks, eagles, cranes and others sucked into the spinning blades during the day. Hawks fly through areas of strong wind currents such as mountain ridges and shorelines which is where many of these slaughter machines will be placed. Why are we letting the environmentalists destroy the world by caving into their "green" renewable energy propaganda?

Hey do....do dodo.........hehehehehehehe... ..... the blades dont turn that fast and are very easily seen........ as for being sucked into them,i dont think so mr. dodo....... have you ever seen one or been close to one.......probably not because of the way you are talking about them....... ya tard ......get the proper information before you blurt out your ignorance on the subject..... ya tard.

SWEDE wrote:

<quoted text>Hey do....do dodo.........hehehehehehehe... ..... the blades dont turn that fast and are very easily seen........ as for being sucked into them,i dont think so mr. dodo....... have you ever seen one or been close to one.......probably not because of the way you are talking about them....... ya tard ......get the proper information before you blurt out your ignorance on the subject..... ya tard.

I've done plenty of research on the topic. It's very easy to find if you know how to use the internet or read magazines. Heck, call the wind farm companies themselves. They are aware of the problem and there have been conferences on the subject about how to minimize the problem. So far no solutions. Yes, I have seen plenty of them thousands, in fact. They have ruined the pristine scenery of West Texas not far from where I own property. The blades are not easily seen, as I described in my first reply. Most songbirds migrate at night because it's cooler and fewer avian predators to worry about. Add to that rain or fog, turbines in their flight path just a couple hundred feet up and they are deadly. Just as the World Trade Towers killed 140,000 migrants, mostly warblers in one night back in 1994. And a cell tower and it's guy wires killed 10,000 Lapland Longspurs a few years ago in Kansas in one night. Yes, large birds do get sucked in. Records are easy to find. So I think you are the Do Do for being so ignorant about it.

How many birds will die if global warming is not contained?

Raptor in Michigan wrote:

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I've done plenty of research on the topic. It's very easy to find if you know how to use the internet or read magazines. Heck, call the wind farm companies themselves. They are aware of the problem and there have been conferences on the subject about how to minimize the problem. So far no solutions. Yes, I have seen plenty of them thousands, in fact. They have ruined the pristine scenery of West Texas not far from where I own property. The blades are not easily seen, as I described in my first reply. Most songbirds migrate at night because it's cooler and fewer avian predators to worry about. Add to that rain or fog, turbines in their flight path just a couple hundred feet up and they are deadly. Just as the World Trade Towers killed 140,000 migrants, mostly warblers in one night back in 1994. And a cell tower and it's guy wires killed 10,000 Lapland Longspurs a few years ago in Kansas in one night. Yes, large birds do get sucked in. Records are easy to find. So I think you are the Do Do for being so ignorant about it.

bull hooey ya dodo........ your making it up and you know it ya tard...

SWEDE wrote:

<quoted text>Hey do....do dodo.........hehehehehehehe... ..... the blades dont turn that fast and are very easily seen........ as for being sucked into them,i dont think so mr. dodo....... have you ever seen one or been close to one.......probably not because of the way you are talking about them....... ya tard ......get the proper information before you blurt out your ignorance on the subject..... ya tard.

Sorry but you are mistaken, I wish you weren't but the blades do kill a lot of birds. I live in western MD(USA) and we have lost American Eagles, many hawks and eve hummingbirds to the blades. If that problem were solved I would be all for wind turbines, I even think they look great.

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> Sorry but you are mistaken, I wish you weren't but the blades do kill a lot of birds. I live in western MD(USA) and we have lost American Eagles, many hawks and eve hummingbirds to the blades. If that problem were solved I would be all for wind turbines, I even think they look great.

If they were harmless to wildlife I wouldn't care if they used them. Honestly, though, they really have ruined the scenery in some areas. West Texas in particular, when I was there last year was really unbelievable. Literally thousands of turbines on the horizon and they went on for almost an hour while we were on I10. Looks like another planet. And so many birds migrate through Texas. It is sickening to think of many of their fates as they leave in the fall. I fear the day when my Rose-breasted Grosbeaks and Baltimore Orioles don't return.

Alaska wrote:

How many birds will die if global warming is not contained?

None. No such thing!(at least not caused by us). One thing about the earth, it is constantly changing. When I was a kid, they tried scaring us with a coming ice age. I'm sure you can google 1970's magazines like Time and Newsweek and find the articles. I'm older and wiser now. I don't fall for that crap anymore.

Ahh, a denialist. As I suspected.

Didn't know that Time and Newsweek were scientific publications, even in the 70's. Who gives a rat's ass what the popular press was reporting then OR now? In the 70's most climate scientists were predicting global warming due to increasing concentrations on CO2. They were right then. They are now too.

But you're right about one thing. You're older now.

Alaska wrote:

Ahh, a denialist. As I suspected.
Didn't know that Time and Newsweek were scientific publications, even in the 70's. Who gives a rat's ass what the popular press was reporting then OR now? In the 70's most climate scientists were predicting global warming due to increasing concentrations on CO2. They were right then. They are now too.
But you're right about one thing. You're older now.

Ah, A puppet, as I suspected.(But one with a sense of humor.) You will believe anything they tell you. I'll bet you were one of those who gathered water and batteries for y2k because you thought evrtything was going to crash and civilization as we knew it would come to an end. Fooled you once, shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you. Honestly, what evidence have you seen that shows global warming is a fact? The rising temperatures for the last couple years? Not here in Michigan. Hurricanes? Some of the worst hurricanes happened before cars. Then again MI used to be covered with glaciers, so maybe there is some warming going on. But we are not causing it. And we've only kept records of temperatures for about 125 years. Hardly enough time to do accurate comparisons with an earth that's 4 billion years old. An earth that is still forming and changing. Is there pollution caused by us? Absolutely, but it has nothing to do with global warming.

Okay, just for arguments sake; let's say there is global warming. Wouldn't that be good for the birds? The warmer it is, the more insects there are. And if summers got longer wouldn't the birds have more time for nesting? They could stay in the north longer. That would mean they could have 3 or 4 broods of babies instead of the 1 or 2 they have now. This would increase their populations and fewer species would be on the endangered list. I like warm weather anyway and it would increase the time I could spend bird watching every year, so I say "Bring it on."

BTW Alaska, I see you're from Austin. Bet you get Painted Buntings in your yard. Lucky you!!! You wouldn't really want to see them killed on those horrible wind turbines, would you? I have traveled many miles just to see one of those birds. Seven times to TX, in fact, before I finally saw my first one.