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'Islamic apologists in the West continue to try to convince gullible Westerners (of which there are so very many) that honor killing really has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, and that all evidence to the contrary is just "Islamophobia." 91% of all honor killings occur among Muslims? Coincidence! Bad study!(Not that any good studies are offered in its place, mind you.) Jordan and Syria -- and now the Palestinian Authority -- have relaxed penalties for honor killings? Well, yes, but a lot of important people have spoken out against this -- well, yes, no one is listening to them, but...still! If the apologists for the Islamic character of honor killing cared about women as much as they care about covering for Islam, they would devote their energies to stamping out the attitudes within the Muslim community that give rise to honor killing, rather than demonizing those who are standing up for victimized Muslim women. It is no accident or coincidence that Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.'
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Trisha wrote: 'Islamic apologists in the West continue to try to convince gullible Westerners (of which there are so very many) that honor killing really has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, and that all evidence to the contrary is just "Islamophobia." 91% of all honor killings occur among Muslims? Coincidence! Bad study!(Not that any good studies are offered in its place, mind you.) Jordan and Syria -- and now the Palestinian Authority -- have relaxed penalties for honor killings? Well, yes, but a lot of important people have spoken out against this -- well, yes, no one is listening to them, but...still! If the apologists for the Islamic character of honor killing cared about women as much as they care about covering for Islam, they would devote their energies to stamping out the attitudes within the Muslim community that give rise to honor killing, rather than demonizing those who are standing up for victimized Muslim women. It is no accident or coincidence that Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.' Good post. But be prepared to be called an islamaphobic, racist, liar, zionist, muslim hater, ect. Unfortunately your voice will only reach non-muslims.
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CTYankee wrote: Unfortunately your voice will only reach non-muslims. I think it goes beyond non-muslims, information always does, or loonwatch won't be so scared. Even if it reaches only non-muslims, it would be very important awareness well worth spreading.
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CTYankee wrote: <quoted text> Good post. But be prepared to be called an islamaphobic, racist, liar, zionist, muslim hater, ect. Unfortunately your voice will only reach non-muslims. Not necessarily. I will admit "Honor Killings" are a disgrace. One thing that is seldom pointed out is the vast majority of Honor Killings by Muslims originate in one country or by Immigrants from that country. That country being Pakistan. The simple question that needs to be answered is this because they are Muslim or does it have to do with country culture. The next question is why don't other Muslim majority nations have the same rate of honor killings as is found among the Pakistanis? .
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george whyte wrote: <quoted text>read the story again, 'Islamic apologists in the West continue to try to convince gullible Westerners (of which there are so very many) that honor killing really has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, and that all evidence to the contrary is just "Islamophobia." 91% of all honor killings occur among Muslims? Coincidence! Bad study!(Not that any good studies are offered in its place, mind you.) Jordan and Syria -- and now the Palestinian Authority -- have relaxed penalties for honor killings? Well, yes, but a lot of important people have spoken out against this -- well, yes, no one is listening to them, but...still! If the apologists for the Islamic character of honor killing cared about women as much as they care about covering for Islam, they would devote their energies to stamping out the attitudes within the Muslim community that give rise to honor killing, rather than demonizing those who are standing up for victimized Muslim women. It is no accident or coincidence that Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. A manual of Islamic law certified as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy by Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2). In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.' Did you read this link: http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/02/honor-killin... But to answer your question as to why don't Muslims do anything to stop Honor Killings look at these Links http://www.mwlusa.org/topics/violence&har... http://www.wisemuslimwomen.org/currentissues/... http://www.stophonourkillings.com/... http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/01/countri... http://arabnews.com/variety/islam/article4560...
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george whyte wrote: <quoted text>lol at www.loon.wa tch. i never asked that, you can kill each other off for all i care just leave us unbelievers alone My error, I must have misunderstood what you meant when you wrote: If the apologists for the Islamic character of honor killing cared about women as much as they care about covering for Islam, they would devote their energies to stamping out the attitudes within the Muslim community that give rise to honor killing, rather than demonizing those who are standing up for victimized Muslim women.
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“Alea iacta est!”
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CTYankee wrote: <quoted text> Good post. But be prepared to be called an islamaphobic, racist, liar, zionist, muslim hater, ect. Unfortunately your voice will only reach non-muslims. Thank you, although I did not write that. I copied it from the article that starts this thread. :)
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