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flack wrote:

So what do we think of all the snow and weather in Europe?

Sorry to say, but it looks like it's right on schedule.

Gord wrote:

Happening this Winter:
Thousands cut off as Europe cold snap continues
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/02/11...
Europe's cold snap claims more victims, travel hit
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/05/us-...
Ice grips Europe's waterways as deadly cold lingers
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-10/world/worl...
Cold Weather Kills In Europe
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/cold...
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Winter of 2009–2010 in Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2009%E...

We are getting a lot of 'the U.S. is warmer this winter' in our media, but not much on the cold in Europe and Asia.

A little bit on the problems in Alaska, but mostly we have heard it's 6*F warmer in Atlanta.

Cold is much more difficult to live with than warm.

"Weather on Steroids"

http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_19940275...

SpaceBlues wrote:

The main activity of the IPCC is to provide at regular intervals Assessment Reports of the state of knowledge on climate change. The latest one is "Climate Change 2007", the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.
The IPCC produces also Special Reports; Methodology Reports; Technical Papers; and Supporting Material, often in response to requests from the Conference of the Parties to the UNFCCC, or from other environmental Conventions.
The preparation of all IPCC reports and publications follows strict procedures agreed by the Panel. The work is guided by the IPCC Chair and the Working Group and Task Force Co-chairs. Hundreds of experts from all over the world contribute to the preparation of IPCC reports as authors, contributors and reviewers. The composition of the group of Coordinating Lead Authors and Lead Authors for a chapter, a report or its summary shall aim to reflect a range of scientific, technical and socio-economic views and expertise; geographical representation; a mixture of experts with and without previous experience in IPCC; and gender balance. Review by governments and experts is also an essential element of the preparation of IPCC reports.
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/publ...
P.S. Science is science. There's no other kind of science.

Thank you, Joseph Goebbels for that informative piece of .....

Fair Game wrote:

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The Draft Committee should really get off its arse and do some basic reading on the subject instead of talking out of it on a subject it seems to be unfamiliar with.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm

Really, you should update your reading list. That one was published in 2008 and much has changed since then. Then again this would explain why your still stuck in the past.

reality wrote:

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As far as space aliens go...who knows?

You sound like you believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast.. or maybe just highly improbable. Hard to tell the difference, since it is assigning a decimal point somewhere to the left of infinity.

lol wrote:

Well, why don't they just slap a five dollar a gallon tax on gasoline. It would cut auto and truck usage, balance the budget and propel our society back to the stone age (or at least the Amish Age) at a great rate of knots. What is left of our economy would grind to a screeching halt and hence no more pollution. Frozen bodies all over the northeast I suppose. Oh well, no plan is perfect.

You are correct about cutting car and truck usage but think aboutthe cost to deliver good that will be passed on to every one. A loaf of bread is pushing three bucks now, are you ready for ten dollars a loaf and balogna at 15 dollars a pound.

I enjoy driving a car with a big motor. Im never going to own anything but a v8. So basically all you green peace hippies can go smoke some more grass and occupy something!

flack wrote:

So what do we think of all the snow and weather in Europe?

"We" think our European friends should experience two doses of winter this year.
Theirs... AND ours!
lol!

No doubt, within a few years or possibly a decade or so, THIS NATURAL PHENOMENA will turn around and kick us in the teeth here in the Western hemisphere, while at the same time many in Europe will be gleefully playing cricket, croquet and outdoor soccer in the heart of January & February.

SpaceBlues wrote:

"Weather on Steroids"
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_19940275...

Yeah....propaganda cartoons for the kids. So for the kids, I will ask this question. If AGW (steroids) is causing extreme weather, what was causing the extreme weather back in the early 19th century? Or is that part of our history just gossip?

http://www.c3headlines.com/bad-stuff-happens....

NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, alias:

LessFactMoreHype wrote:

You sound like you believe as many as six impossible things before breakfast.. or maybe just highly improbable. Hard to tell the difference, since it is assigning a decimal point somewhere to the left of infinity.

Describing yourself, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
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Forty is spelt with a U.
Epistemologists compile dictionaries.
Samuel Johnson was an American.
Ice calving is restricted by size.
"The equator doesn't have season."
Cars can be charged with road collisions.
Enercon install gearless offshore wind generators.
Vikings didn't know how to live in a warmer Greenland.
"Deforestations is a consequence of AGW."
Alberta is a country.
"Insects and plants" don't qualify as species.
"Scientific laws" aren't science.
Predictions are just for astrologers.
Ethanol is a very workable and effective solution.
America only has two political parties.
CO2 is not vital for life.
Climate and weather are not linked.
'Nondenier' is a real word.
'Fruiting plants' are especially chosen by bees for, "polination."
We acted on CFCs in the 70s.
CO2 is a thermal pollutant.
I would be astounded if you can grow tomatoes in your desert
AGW is caused by Solar cycles.

Fuel costs are too high, the weather is always bad. Climate catastrophe, old news.

Fair Game wrote:

<quoted text>
The Draft Committee should really get off its arse and do some basic reading on the subject instead of talking out of it on a subject it seems to be unfamiliar with.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm

Please forward this concern to where it is warranted, the UN IPCC.

reality wrote:

No doubt, within a few years or possibly a decade or so, THIS NATURAL PHENOMENA will turn around and kick us in the teeth here in the Western hemisphere, while at the same time many in Europe will be gleefully playing cricket, croquet and outdoor soccer in the heart of January & February.

The latitudes of europe are somewhat more north of the latitudes of the continental United States than you might think. London latitude is 3 degrees north(200+miles) of the farthest north continental U.S.-Canadian border latitude. Lest you think 3 degrees latitude isn't much, there are two snowy volcanoes of very similar height, Mt Hood in Oregon state & Mt. Baker in Washington state, roughly two hundred fifty miles apart, north & south of each other. Mt. Baker(has present world snowfall record) gets a lot more snow than Mt. Hood, AND holds on to the snow much better than Mt. Hood. I've hiked Mt. Hood in summer, & never encountered snow till the 8000+ foot level. That could never be said of the snowfields of Mt. Baker, which extend thousands of feet further downslope.
Southern California, & ALL of Texas & Florida latitudes are similar to mediterranean-North African latitudes. Orkney & Shetland Islands, north of Scotland, Olso & St. Petersburg, Russia latitudes correspond to southern mainland Alaska latitudes.

The Gulf Stream keeps europe warm, except for vigorous cold fronts that break out of the Arctic.

here we go again:
snip:
Director of the White House’s national economic council Gary Sperling’s announcement that a plan for a “global minimum tax” is in the works continues the efforts of Barack Obama himself to oversee a massive transfer of wealth under the auspices of the UN.

The Obama administration’s plans for a global tax are in complete synergy with the United Nations agenda to achieve the same objective, which as a chilling 2010 UN blueprint made clear, revolved around a $45 trillion transfer of wealth from richer countries as part of a process that would enable the United Nations to build a structure of global governance in pursuit of a

“Green World Order”

while lowering living standards in the west.

The timeline by which this goal had to be accomplished was June 2012.

The United Nations has repeatedly tried but failed to piggy-back a global tax onto the back of climate change deals at successive summits in Copenhagen, Cancun and most recently in Durban.
**********

Tell me another fairy tale, that it's all about [imaginary] mmcc. LOL.

The 'war on poverty' went so smashingly well here, we want to expand that particular graft, corruption & control to a much bigger world wide scale.

Apparently they couldn't accomplish this by coercing people into forking over their money for fear of roasting to death in the mmcc lies.

Funny how truth will always surface and is unchanging.

It's simple. It always comes down to wanting [more] money,[more] power & [more] control!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-advisors-ca...

Just in time for Valentine's Day...Global warming COULD make chocolate less available and more expensive by 2050. Is there anything these people won't use to try to alarm us?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/environment...

Oh and by the way, the article also stated that similar changes are already affecting the best sugar cane areas of the world, and are partially responsible for a 30% decrease in sugar production in Indonesia in 2011. Well, I know Spacey wouldn't want me to actually RESEARCH, but I decided to check on that and I found the 2011 Indonesia Annual Sugarcane report and found out why the sugarcane was decreased. According to the report:

A total area of 335,000 hectares were planted with sugar cane in MY 2010/11, a decrease of about
15,000 hectares from the previous year. The decrease in area planted is primarily due to nonagricultural land conversion, such as road and housing construction in areas which were previously
centers of sugar cane production. This is especially true on Java, which has been particularly impacted by the urbanization of agricultural land. Farmer preference for other crops such as rice, corn, and soybeans, chiefly on the island of Java, has also resulted in fewer hectares of sugar cane.

The total area planted with sugar cane is forecasted to slightly increase to 340,000 hectares in MY 2011/12 due to area expansion outside of Java. However, efforts to develop new sugar cane plantations outside of Java have been hindered by the lack of supporting infrastructure and land ownership problems. Therefore, Indonesian sugar mills must also attempt to increase sugarcane production by adopting new planting patterns, using higher quality varieties, and by better timing of the harvest to increase the recovery rate.

The milling period of MY 2010/11 started on Java in June 2010. The Sumatran milling period began as
early as February 2010. The milling period ended in January 2011, with both regions experiencing
longer than average milling periods compared to a more normal period of 150 days. Incessant rainfall
and the concomitant longer milling period reduced the sugar content of the sugar cane. This led to a
lower-than-average recovery rate of 6.5 percent in MY 2010/11 compared to 7.6 percent reached in MY
2009/10. The 2010 milling season was marked by especially heavy rains, which led to flowering, long sugar cane stalks, and difficulties in loading harvested sugar cane. Subsequently, this will decrease cane production in MY 2010/11 to approximately 1.77 MMT – a 7.3 percent decrease from MY 2009/10. Provided that Indonesia experiences more typical weather patterns, as are currently predicted by the Indonesian Meteorology, Geophysics, and Climatology Agency (BMKG), the recovery rate is estimated to rebound to 7.5 percent in MY 2011/12. However, this target may be hampered by poor recovery rate analysis, poor harvest management, sugar cane transportation problems, and old machines at sugar mills.

Or there is this article that says sugar production is increasing because of climate:

http://www.aabc.co.in/asia/1856-indonesia-aim...

Funny what a little RESEARCH will turn up.

cricket wrote:

here we go again:
snip:
Director of the White House’s national economic council Gary Sperling’s announcement that a plan for a “global minimum tax” is in the works continues the efforts of Barack Obama himself to oversee a massive transfer of wealth under the auspices of the UN.
The Obama administration’s plans for a global tax are in complete synergy with the United Nations agenda to achieve the same objective, which as a chilling 2010 UN blueprint made clear, revolved around a $45 trillion transfer of wealth from richer countries as part of a process that would enable the United Nations to build a structure of global governance in pursuit of a
“Green World Order”
while lowering living standards in the west.
The timeline by which this goal had to be accomplished was June 2012.
The United Nations has repeatedly tried but failed to piggy-back a global tax onto the back of climate change deals at successive summits in Copenhagen, Cancun and most recently in Durban.
**********
Tell me another fairy tale, that it's all about [imaginary] mmcc. LOL.
The 'war on poverty' went so smashingly well here, we want to expand that particular graft, corruption & control to a much bigger world wide scale.
Apparently they couldn't accomplish this by coercing people into forking over their money for fear of roasting to death in the mmcc lies.
Funny how truth will always surface and is unchanging.
It's simple. It always comes down to wanting [more] money,[more] power & [more] control!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-advisors-ca...

Marxism/Communism/socialism/Ob amanism all on parade.
It is also the purpose of the AGW scam.

Making everyone in the world equal will mean the end of human life.
The socialist MUST be defeated for the sake of mankind.

Correction:
In post 27117, Olso is Oslo.....

The Communist/Marxist AGW con artist are loosing ground in their attempt to rule every aspect of human life.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/13/do-late...

NO AGW wrote:

The Communist/Marxist AGW con artist are loosing ground in their attempt to rule every aspect of human life.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/13/do-late...

chinese communists murdered, tortured, & starved to death, 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES. The repub Nixon made peace with chinese communists. Repub Reagan sold military equipment to chinese communists. Repub presidents Bush massively allowed american business, not only to trade with chinese communists, but to take american tech & knowledge to the chinese communists. Rich repubs got richer & chinese communists got rich with the wide open door policy.