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limit the number of meetings that are catered.

the firing range could be a boy scout project

Most of that outrageous budget is going straight into the greedy clutches of the liberal teachers union and the union thugs that intimidate the board into overspending! Unions should be outlawed and everyone that dares to belong to one should be jailed! How many more years of double digit pay increases to the teachers can the decent taxpayers afford?

Well if corporations paid their fair share of taxes, then the County would have the revenue it needs to fund all the services that the PEOPLE need. However when corporations use tactics such as tax avoidance, subsidies and property tax appeals, it leaves MORE FOR US to pay.
Demand that corporations pay their fair share.

Oh how oh how will they find a way to spend our tax dollars and keep all those awesome percs of inside trading anf health and retirement benifits?

At the start of hope and change gas was 1.78 a gal, at least he has kept his promise to raise our fuel costs

torch wrote:

At the start of hope and change gas was 1.78 a gal, at least he has kept his promise to raise our fuel costs

And today the United States is actually producing more oil than when Obama took office. And today the domestic demand for oil is actually less.

Our fuel costs are higher due to demand from other countries like China, India, etc and also mideast unrest. It could be much, much higher if we heeded the banging drums coming from the right to preemptively strike Iran now.

One thing we could control is wall street oil speculation, which accounts for more than 50 cents of a gallon of gas, but Republicans are blocking implementation of the anti-speculation provision of the Dodd-Frank bill.

http://www.iatp.org/documents/speculation-upd...

So blame the big-oil Republicans if you want to blame a political party.

heh wrote:

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And today the United States is actually producing more oil than when Obama took office. And today the domestic demand for oil is actually less.
Our fuel costs are higher due to demand from other countries like China, India, etc and also mideast unrest. It could be much, much higher if we heeded the banging drums coming from the right to preemptively strike Iran now.
One thing we could control is wall street oil speculation, which accounts for more than 50 cents of a gallon of gas, but Republicans are blocking implementation of the anti-speculation provision of the Dodd-Frank bill.
http://www.iatp.org/documents/speculation-upd...
So blame the big-oil Republicans if you want to blame a political party.

What most Americans don’t know is that the only thing keeping the price above $2.00 is the fact that our oil companies are exporting our gasoline at bargain basement prices to their own foreign subsidiaries subsidized by high American prices.

You see, gasoline usage, around the world, has fallen dramatically.

Gas is a liquid. Imagine a glass of water. You fill it to the top, you add more, it overflows.

Same with gasoline. Tank farms fill up, the rusty pickup truck in the driveway has gas in it, the BP station is full to capacity, everything that can hold gasoline except for your bath tub is filled to capacity. Normally, this would crash prices.

Instead, America exports gas, dirt cheap and in huge volume, 480,000 barrels per day. But this is an export you say, a good thing. Is it now?

American refineries are the most expensive in the world with the highest wages
The gasoline exported was made from crude oil shipped halfway around the world
To gain market share, America would have to compete with refineries closer to oil supplies, refineries with cheap labor, most of which are owned by governments or government controlled corporations
This means America’s exports are subsidized. By “subsidized,” we mean “fixed” or “rigged.” I think it is safe to say we have known this for a very long time, I don’t expect anyone to have a heart attack reading this.

Ah, but there is more. A while ago, oil hit $70 bucks a barrel. Even that was high, high enough for gas to go to $1.79 a gallon though the price never moved an inch, not up to $1.79 or would that be “down?”

heh wrote:

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And today the United States is actually producing more oil than when Obama took office. And today the domestic demand for oil is actually less.
Our fuel costs are higher due to demand from other countries like China, India, etc and also mideast unrest. It could be much, much higher if we heeded the banging drums coming from the right to preemptively strike Iran now.
One thing we could control is wall street oil speculation, which accounts for more than 50 cents of a gallon of gas, but Republicans are blocking implementation of the anti-speculation provision of the Dodd-Frank bill.
http://www.iatp.org/documents/speculation-upd...
So blame the big-oil Republicans if you want to blame a political party.

The big question, why has nobody said anything about this? Why isn’t President Obama screaming from the rooftops or Ron Paul standing on a milk crate on some lonely corner in New Hampshire?

For the average family, the savings are enough to pay rent or a house payment, fuel costs are that much. If we add a 75% reduction to heating bills, which is where the natural gas market really is, what would that do?

Oh, did I forget? Last year we had the highest increase in food prices in history.

Food prices are driven, primarily, by the price of diesel, which should almost be free except for market manipulation. Currently, the Bush family has taken a position in “corn” which means “ethanol.”

Imports of corn for ethanol will crash the market, this is already in motion and has been for months.

Food should nearly be free, not going up 2% per month

heh wrote:

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And today the United States is actually producing more oil than when Obama took office. And today the domestic demand for oil is actually less.
Our fuel costs are higher due to demand from other countries like China, India, etc and also mideast unrest. It could be much, much higher if we heeded the banging drums coming from the right to preemptively strike Iran now.
One thing we could control is wall street oil speculation, which accounts for more than 50 cents of a gallon of gas, but Republicans are blocking implementation of the anti-speculation provision of the Dodd-Frank bill.
http://www.iatp.org/documents/speculation-upd...
So blame the big-oil Republicans if you want to blame a political party.

This is all being rigged too.

We don’t need ethanol for gasoline, in fact we probably won’t need gasoline in 3 years, not if we use new technologies. I saw my first 100 mpg gasoline engine, powerful and conventional two years ago.

It puts out more horsepower than most hybrids and has no batteries, motors or other such wasteful expense. It was so “green” that you could pump its exhaust into an incubator.

We have a hundred suppressed technologies, have done everything possible to kill mass transit in the US and have worked, day and night, to make it impossible for Americans to survive.

New Maglev Train - Have You Heard of It?
The cash for a nationwide mag-lev train system sits in the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, one trillion dollars of private funds, held up for years.

This is 400,000 jobs.

The project, and I have seen the court filings, the bank transfers, the pay orders, has been held up for years now, a project that would end much of America’s unemployment and make national travel at over 300 mph dirt cheap and totally clean.

The game?

We are going to send “the fleet” to threaten Iran, pretend that oil should be $100 per gallon when we don’t need it at all, keep putting the $3.49 per gallon signs at the gas stations and keep selling hamburger for $2.89 per pound instead of $1.39.

Electric bills will stay triple what they should, natural gas even more.

Cell phones, internet and television will always cost equal to half your rent with every source priced within pennies of the other although all use government paid for resources resold to the public.

ONLY A IDIOT BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO REPUBS AND DEMS(TWOHEADED SNAKE FROM HELL)

Which all proves my point. Blame big-oil Republicans for passing favorable legislation to them, and blocking legislation which isn't.

Obama is for ending speculation and also for energy diversity to free the county from big-oil influence.

He can't pass the laws.

Jefferson Area Tea Party Chairwoman Carole Thorpe is at it again, complaining about "tax increases." Naturally, Thorpe and her Tea Party cronies refuse to acknowledge that the United States has one of the very lowest tax rates of all developed nations (tax rates now are at 60-year lows). Moreover, Virginia, one of the top ten wealthiest states, has one of the lowest tax burdens. And Albemarle County, one of the most affluent localities in Virginia (and in the country), has one of the very lowest tax rates for a county of its wealth. But it has one of the greatest income disparities of all localities in the United States. The land use tax subsidy and conservation easement abuse help to sustain it.

http://www.propublica.org/article/income-ineq...

No matter. Facts don't matter to conservatives. They just make things up as they go. It was conservative presidents (Reagan, Bush1, Bush2) operating under conservative economic policies (supply-side economics) who gave the country most of its huge debt, job losses and broken economy. Thorpe and her brethren most likely voted for those presidents and those policies (by the way, Carole, where were those alleged weapons of mass destruction?).

Thorpe whined about "tax increases" yet she uttered not a single word to the Board about the huge tax subsidy that goes to the landed gentry in the county. Albemarle's land use tax subsidy program now comprises fully 60 percent of all county land and provides the biggest, and mostly wealthiest, land owners with $20 million in tax relief while letting all other county residents pay for it.

While school employees – teachers – have been bearing the brunt of budget cutbacks in the county, one still has to wonder why the schools "leadership" has wasted so much money on technological toys and failures like SchoolNet. When will the superintendent release those 268 SchoolNet-related emails she's withheld from public scrutiny?

Note to FireAllIncomptntTechurs: please get a grip on reality...there are no Unions" in Virginia "intimidating" boards to spend...Virginia is a right-to-work state. Teacher associations cannot bargain collectively. Perhaps you are unaware, but the right of people "to assemble" and to associate freely is protected by the U.S. Constitution. John Locke, who influenced the Framers, wrote that "every man has a property in his own person: this no body has any right to but himself. The labour of his body, and the work of his hands, we may say, are properly his." The Framers of the Constitution understood what Locke meant, even if you do not.

And there've been no "double digit pay increases," except perhaps in your fantasyland. You are entitled to your deranged opinions, but you are not entitled to make up your own facts.

Why in the world you people blame the Republicans without including the Democrats, is a mystery to me. They all play politics together but the Dems have learned to put a spin on their words to keep them out of trouble with people who are willing to believe what they say, out of desperation, I guess. If you want to know the truth, you have to FOLLOW THE MONEY, not what comes out of a politician's mouth.

for pitys sake wrote:

Why in the world you people blame the Republicans without including the Democrats, is a mystery to me. They all play politics together but the Dems have learned to put a spin on their words to keep them out of trouble with people who are willing to believe what they say, out of desperation, I guess. If you want to know the truth, you have to FOLLOW THE MONEY, not what comes out of a politician's mouth.

The majority of posters here blame Obummer for everything, including stubbing their own toes.

I was just responding to a post blaming high gas prices on him in this thread.

torch wrote:

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This is all being rigged too.
We don’t need ethanol for gasoline, in fact we probably won’t need gasoline in 3 years, not if we use new technologies. I saw my first 100 mpg gasoline engine, powerful and conventional two years ago.
It puts out more horsepower than most hybrids and has no batteries, motors or other such wasteful expense. It was so “green” that you could pump its exhaust into an incubator.
We have a hundred suppressed technologies, have done everything possible to kill mass transit in the US and have worked, day and night, to make it impossible for Americans to survive.
New Maglev Train - Have You Heard of It?
The cash for a nationwide mag-lev train system sits in the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, one trillion dollars of private funds, held up for years.
This is 400,000 jobs.
The project, and I have seen the court filings, the bank transfers, the pay orders, has been held up for years now, a project that would end much of America’s unemployment and make national travel at over 300 mph dirt cheap and totally clean.
The game?
We are going to send “the fleet” to threaten Iran, pretend that oil should be $100 per gallon when we don’t need it at all, keep putting the $3.49 per gallon signs at the gas stations and keep selling hamburger for $2.89 per pound instead of $1.39.
Electric bills will stay triple what they should, natural gas even more.
Cell phones, internet and television will always cost equal to half your rent with every source priced within pennies of the other although all use government paid for resources resold to the public.
ONLY A IDIOT BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO REPUBS AND DEMS(TWOHEADED SNAKE FROM HELL)

get a job torch!

heh wrote:

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The majority of posters here blame Obummer for everything, including stubbing their own toes.
I was just responding to a post blaming high gas prices on him in this thread.

You were all so quick to jump all over Bush when they went up towards the end of his term. Now you're all crying 'cause we're jumping all over your ONE. Gas prices are higher than ever now, so YEAH, I'm blaming that useless jack-legged socialist. Oh, and you forgot to capitalize the "H" in "him" when you were speaking of your Messiah there. Probably forgot to genuflect, too.

Gru wrote:

<quoted text>You were all so quick to jump all over Bush when they went up towards the end of his term. Now you're all crying 'cause we're jumping all over your ONE. Gas prices are higher than ever now, so YEAH, I'm blaming that useless jack-legged socialist. Oh, and you forgot to capitalize the "H" in "him" when you were speaking of your Messiah there. Probably forgot to genuflect, too.

Well you just prove my point that blaming high gas prices on HIM (praise allah), or any president is just crazy talk.