federal govt. says too much fluoride in water

federal govt. says too much fluoride in water. that two out of 5 adolescents have damage from it.

well maybe the county can save money and lighten up on the fluoride before we have to pay damage like the tobacco companies did.

better extra safe, than extra sorry.

Iced tea has natural fluoride in it.
and tea is cheap 100 bags for a dollar.

Malfunctioning fluoridation equipment caused excessive fluoride levels of 70 parts per million (ppm) in the distribution system. This is 70 times the normal level and almost 18 times the level considered safe by EPA....

There is enough fluoride to kill a small child in a single large tube of toothpaste.

The maximum fluoride concentration in toothpaste is 1,500 ppm.
Having a much smaller fluoride concentration in water does not make it a safe substance, as fluoride accumulates in the human body as well as in the environment.
There are still risks associated with a fluoride concentration of 1 ppm and accidents do happen in water plants, putting both workers and the public at risk....

what grade of fluoride would the budget of a small town be able to afford?

I keep remembering the little three year old boy who was a given fluoride treatment at the dentist.

He was instructed to go spit it out in the sink, but he swallowed the sweetened substance and died.

One of these factors is the fact that fluoride can increase manganese absorption, so if you mix the powdered- or concentrated soy formula with fluoridated water, you're worsening matters even further!

Fluoride and manganese interact in a number of ways through various pathways.

For example, fluorides can cause zinc deficiency which in turn can cause damage to your brain by altering your manganese levels.

This is because fluorides act as a TSH (thyroid-stimulating-hormone) analogue, and along with iodine, zinc and selenium are also controlled by TSH. And when you're deficient in zinc, the manganese levels in your brain become altered.

Hydrofluosilicic acid is the most corrosive chemical agent known to man: it is derived from toxic gases produced in the manufacture of phosphoric acid and phosphate fertilizers; it contains lead, mercury, arsenic, and high concentrations of radionucleides; it is also the chemical agent most used for water fluoridation in the United States.

Now it's "cry"?

What happened to "Cyr" and "Sue" and Sue Cyr" and and "the truth about Kelsey" and all those other nutty names?

You just got started here but there are threads whn you have posted dozens of responses to yourself using your assorted names.

You do know that you are just babbeling to YOURSELF don't you?

Here's something to consider:

You have been stalking me and threatening me with law suits over IMAGINED threats for over a year. How is it going to look in court when the judge sees that you are such an an attention seeking drama queen that you start a post then respond to yourself using your assorted names?

The Pasteur Institute and the Nobel Institute oppose fluoridation.
They have caused fluoride to be banned in their countries, France and Sweden, respectively

JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association) links hip fractures and fluoridation
Reports published in 1990, 1992 and 1992 stated that there was a link between hip fractures in the elderly and water fluoridated at 1 ppm.(the so-called "optimal dose").

JADA (Journal of the American Dental Association) admits the often stated "optimal" intake level of 1 ppm (part per million) has yet to be determined scientifically.

AMA (American Medical Association) refuses to say that fluoridation is harmless and "has not carried out any research work, either long term or short term, regarding the possibility of any side effects." - Assistant Director of AMA

JADA (Journal of the American Dental Association)- states dentists make 17% more PROFIT in fluoridated areas as opposed to non-fluoridated areas. 1972, 84;355-367

California Dept of Health Services - Dental costs are higher in fluoridated communities

Fluoridation is approved by voters by less than 25%.
Procter & Gamble, the makers of Crest toothpase state, "In 1980, 41 fluoridation referenda were held in the United States; fluoridation was disapproved in 33 of these and approved in only 8."

Sodium Fluoride contains Arsenic & Lead
According to an Allied Chemical Data Sheet sent to cities interested in fluoridating their water supplies.

EPA lists fluoride as a contaminant.

International Acadamey of Oral Medicine and Toxicology - has classified fluoride as un unapproved dental medicament due to its high toxicity.

EPA Scientists Take Stand Against Fluoridation
July 1997. The EPA scientists, engineers and attorneys who assess the scientific data for Safe Drinking Water Act standards and other EPA regulations have gone on record against the practice of adding fluoride to public drinking water.

FDA - considers fluoride an unapproved drug for which there is no proof of safety or effectiveness.

Former NIH (National Inst. of Health) scientist opposed to fluoride
Dr. Patrick, Harvard Ph.D., states Fluoride is capable of a very wide variety of harmful effects, even at low doses.

Significant increase in bone cancer
A 1992 N.J. Dept. of Health study indicated a significant increase in osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in young men who drank fluoridated water.

Three year old child dies due to fluoride treatment.
$750,000 was awarded a family in New York for the fluoride-related death.

"A significant increase in cancer mortality in the fluoridated cities." a 28 year study concludes
A time-trend study of Dr. Burk and Dr. Yiamouyiannis, which compared cancer mortality in ten cities which fluoridated their water systems with ten cities which did not fluoridate.

Houston sued over fluoridation - and loses based on scientific data
Court rules "That the artificial fluoridation of public water supplies, such as is contemplated by [Houston] City Ordinance No. 80-2530, may cause or may contribute to the cause of cancer, genetic damage, intolerant reactions, and chronic toxicity, including dental mottling, in man; that the said artificial fluoridation may aggravate malnutrition and existing illnesses in man; and that the value of said artificial fluoridation is in doubt as to the reduction of tooth decay in man."

Why have 80 cities rejected fluoridation since 1996? What do they know?

Three year old child dies due to fluoride treatment.
$750,000 was awarded a family in New York
for the fluoride-related death.

"A significant increase in cancer mortality in the fluoridated cities." a 28 year study concludes
A time-trend study of Dr. Burk and Dr. Yiamouyiannis, which compared cancer mortality in ten cities which fluoridated their water systems with ten cities which did not fluoridate.

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wwTheTruthAbout KelseyCom wrote:

ELH, you are a malicous liar,and you looking like a monster.
how is your pregnancy coming along?and your baby you just had this year? taking your frustrations out on me is not going to make your job better.

Big talk from the woman who has earned the title BIGGEST LIAR ON TOPIX!

I have been asking you to prove even one time that I lied for over a year but you never seem to be able to manage that. No, instead of proving you claims you stalk me and hurl insults and lies. Could this be because you can't even PROVE one lie? I KNOW you can't because I don't have any reason to lie since you have left us such a hugh pile of your dirty laundry to draw infromation from why would ANYONE have too lie when you do it for us?

As usually you toss out the judgments and insults without having a clue… Thanks for the concern, but I had my last baby in NOVEMBER 2009 so if I get pregnant in the next few months (as planned) she will be almost TWOP YEARS OLD when the next one arrives… something you probably never experienced yourself, but with your being so well informed on just about all subjects, I am sure you have read about “planning” and "spacing" pregnancy for optimal health of both mother and child?

Big talk from the woman who has earned the title BIGGEST LIAR ON TOPIX!

As usually you toss out the judgments and insults without having a clue… Thanks for the concern, but I had my last baby in NOVEMBER 2009 so if I get pregnant in the next few months (as planned) she will be almost TWOP YEARS OLD when the next one arrives… something you probably never experienced yourself, but with your being so well informed on just about all subjects, I am sure you have read about “planning” and "spacing" pregnancy for optimal health of both mother and child?

ELH wrote:

Big talk from the woman who has earned the title BIGGEST LIAR ON TOPIX!
As usually you toss out the judgments and insults without having a clue… Thanks for the concern, but I had my last baby in NOVEMBER 2009 so if I get pregnant in the next few months (as planned) she will be almost TWOP YEARS OLD when the next one arrives… something you probably never experienced yourself, but with your being so well informed on just about all subjects, I am sure you have read about “planning” and "spacing" pregnancy for optimal health of both mother and child?

well I am glad that you are spacing your children out but even if you didn't it wouldn't be any business of mine, so I do hope all goes well for you, I'm sorry if I UPSET YOU. YOU JUST UPSET ME FIRST. AND I DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY ANY ONE threatening THE HOME OF MY CHILDREN.
YOU DO know that my children are spaced out at least three years apart and some are four years apart, except one was 2 years and 2 months apart. But that was only because my husband would not let me get up to put in the birth control.
regardless shame on anyone for trying to harm woman and children. or women heavy with children. there is no excuse for abuse, just like that man who shot rep Giffords and that 9 year old and everyone who was randomly there, I hope they don't waste any time put that man where he belongs.

and I am so glad she lived,
also the parents of the nine year old girl spoke on tv and her mother was saying the same things raye dawn was saying. how her daughter was a beautiful angel and how she misses her coming in the morning and waking her up with her sweet little voice. this killer is the one whom you haters should focus your energies on, too much violence on tv, and too many guns with no use for them, most people want to use their guns. most people don't have bears and cougars walking through their yard any more.

FDA - considers fluoride an unapproved drug for which there is no proof of safety or effectiveness.

ELH wrote:

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Big talk from the woman who has earned the title BIGGEST LIAR ON TOPIX!
I have been asking you to prove even one time that I lied for over a year but you never seem to be able to manage that. No, instead of proving you claims you stalk me and hurl insults and lies. Could this be because you can't even PROVE one lie? I KNOW you can't because I don't have any reason to lie since you have left us such a hugh pile of your dirty laundry to draw infromation from why would ANYONE have too lie when you do it for us?
As usually you toss out the judgments and insults without having a clue… Thanks for the concern, but I had my last baby in NOVEMBER 2009 so if I get pregnant in the next few months (as planned) she will be almost TWOP YEARS OLD when the next one arrives… something you probably never experienced yourself, but with your being so well informed on just about all subjects, I am sure you have read about “planning” and "spacing" pregnancy for optimal health of both mother and child?

I have been asking you to prove even one time that I lied for over a year but you never seem to be able to manage that. No, instead of proving you claims you stalk me and hurl insults and lies. Could this be because you can't even PROVE one lie? I KNOW you can't.
you are sick.

wwTheTruthAbout KelseyCom wrote:

well I am glad that you are spacing your children out but even if you didn't it wouldn't be any business of mine

You are right it isn't any of your business so WHY did YOU bring it up, you stupid nosey bitch?

wwTheTruthAbout KelseyCom wrote:

ELH, you are a malicous liar,and you looking like a monster. how is your pregnancy coming along? and your baby you just had this year? taking your frustrations out on me is not going to make your job better.

and why are you stalking me and accusing me of starting websites and threads that have NOTHING to do with me?

ELH wrote:

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You are right it isn't any of your business so WHY did YOU bring it up, you stupid nosey bitch?
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and why are you stalking me and accusing me of starting websites and threads that have NOTHING to do with me?

you were the first person to quote on it, and you was in on it. enabling it. how did you even know it was there, unless you was in on it, how would you like if i POSTED IN YOUR NEWSPAPER? USING YOUR NAME.?
I only did not do it because you have enough stress in your house with your traumatized foster kids and the new baby,

why are you stalking me and accusing me of things that have NOTHING to do with me? you know I am already mentally ill with all the violence I have been through, like rape and kidnapping.

July 27, 1998

Ms. Barewald
Mtn View Citizens for Safe Drinking Water
Mtn. View Cal 94040

Dear Ms. Barewald:

Our union is comprised of and represents the scientists, lawyers and other professionals at Headquarters of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in Washington, D.C.

The union has been interested in the matter of fluoride toxicity as a matter of professional ethics since 1985. At that time, an EPA scientist came to the union complaining that he was being ordered to write a regulation that implied the government thought is was O.K. for citizens to have teeth that looked like they had been chewing on rocks and tar balls. That condition was not to be classified as an adverse health effect, but merely a cosmetic effect, so the government would not be forced to take steps to protect citizens against its likely occurrence. We have been in a fight with our own agency for ethical practice of our professions on this issue ever since.

In 1997, union scientists and lawyers reviewed the toxicity data on fluoride that had been published since 1985, along with the consequences of fluoride exposure as a result of the public policy of mandatory water fluoridation.

The most recent toxicity data demonstrate to us a causative link between fluoride exposures and neurotoxicity (including diminished I.Q. in children, and hyperactivity), genetic damage, bone pathology (including increased rates of hip fracture in fluoridated cities), and cancer (including increased bone cancer in young men), in addition to dental fluorosis.

Furthermore, our review of the studies on the effect of fluoride on dental cavities, including the massive and comprehensive National Oral Health Survey 1986-1987 published by the National Institute of Dental Research and the World Health Organization s Caries for 12-Year Olds by Country/Area , indicates that there is no meaningful reduction in dental cavities resulting from drinking water fluoridation.(An article in the January 16, 1998 issue of The New York Times that addresses the ineffectiveness of water fluoridation in New York City provides the lay person with more current evidence, and is readily accessible on the internet.)

The result of these reviews of recent research findings on fluoride caused our union members to vote unanimously to join forces with California Citizens for Safe Drinking in their effort to stop fluoridation in their state. We note, by the way, that in virtually every community where fluoride is put into the public water supply, citizens themselves have had no say in the matter.

Subsequent to our vote, more information indicating adverse effects has become available, This includes a 1998 publication in Brain Research (Vol. 784) on the toxic effects of low levels of sodium fluoride, as well as low levels of combinations of sodium fluoride and aluminum, on the brain and kidneys; and work done by Dartmouth College Professor Roger Masters, and his research associate Myron Coplan, on the correlation between blood lead levels in children and water fluoridation chemicals. These articles, when taken in conjunction with the publications we considered in 1997, argue strongly for the immediate suspension of all fluoridation of drinking water. To continue the practice in the face of recent findings is an irresponsible gamble, with the intellects of our children as the stakes.

I hope this information will help you, and the citizens of Mountain View with whom you choose to share this information, to make the right decision regarding the safety of your drinking water supply, and help dispel the myth of the beneficial effects of water fluoridation on your health. If I can be of further service, please don 't hesitate to call me.

Sincerely,
(Signed)

J. William Hirzy, Ph.D.
Senior Vice-President
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The most recent toxicity data demonstrate to us a causative link between fluoride exposures and neurotoxicity

(including diminished I.Q. in children, and hyperactivity),

genetic damage,

bone pathology (including increased rates of hip fracture in fluoridated cities),

and cancer (including increased bone cancer in young men),
in addition to dental fluorosis.

Furthermore, our review of the studies on the effect of fluoride on dental cavities, including the massive and comprehensive National Oral Health Survey 1986-1987 published by the National Institute of Dental Research and the World Health Organization s Caries for 12-Year Olds by Country/Area ,

indicates that there is no meaningful reduction in dental cavities resulting from drinking water fluoridation.

(An article in the January 16, 1998 issue of The New York Times that addresses the ineffectiveness of water fluoridation in New York City provides the lay person with more current evidence, and is readily accessible on the internet.)-----
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