Harvard professor tells of Mormon diaries during MU lecture

Dagobert II wrote:

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LOL! You say that as though practicing pedophilia and adultery as a *religious principle* makes it any less disgusting.

Falsely accusing someone of practicing pedophilia and adultery is *just* as disgusting as actually doing it.

You have chanted that lying mantra several times now; I have pointed out the *facts* contrary to the lies you love. You have not responded to my rebuttals -- meaning that they stand unrefuted -- but you persist in your lies.

And that means you have no excuse.

Just so you know.

Regards,
Pahoran

Pahoran wrote:

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Falsely accusing someone of practicing pedophilia and adultery is *just* as disgusting as actually doing it.
You have chanted that lying mantra several times now; I have pointed out the *facts* contrary to the lies you love.

The FACTS are that copulatin' Joe practiced secret 'marriages' with other men's wives and fourteen year-old girls. These are the FACTS that you can not refute.

Dagobert II wrote:

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The FACTS are that [Dagobert's epithet] practiced secret 'marriages' with other men's wives and fourteen year-old girls. These are the FACTS that you can not refute.

Yes I can.

"Girls" is a plural noun. As such it is a lie.

The FACT is that in the ONE documented case where Joseph was sealed to a girl younger than fifteen, reputable historians, such as the Tanners are not, agree that the betrothal never became a marriage in fact.

The FACT is that, in a moment of weakness, you actually broke down and admitted that not all of Joseph's marriages involved sex. You are to be congratulated for that rare bit of honesty; but, of course, it completely undercuts the idiotic assumption that plural marriage was merely for sexual gratification.

A further FACT is that, in a time when divorces were often informal, Joseph was sealed to some women who were estranged from their husbands. Some of those sealings were marriages in fact; some were not. Some of those plural wives were subsequently reconciled to their husbands; some were not.

Joseph was also sealed "for eternity only," i.e. a sealing that conferred no conjugal privileges, to some women who remained married in fact -- and physically faithful -- to other men.

Some people are interested in the truth; others in venting their hateful prejudices.

The truth, you see, is subtle, nuanced, and not easily expressed in bumper sticker slogans.

That means it takes an *attention span* to actually grasp any of it.

Regards,
Pahoran

Pahoran wrote:

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Yes I can.
"Girls" is a plural noun. As such it is a lie.
The FACT is that in the ONE documented case where Joseph was sealed to a girl younger than fifteen, reputable historians, such as the Tanners are not, agree that the betrothal never became a marriage in fact.

I'd suggest you try reading the list of copulatin' Joe's 'wives' with your physical, rather than 'spiritual' eyes. Here's the list for your refreshment. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/

Dagobert II wrote:

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I'd suggest you try reading the list of [Dagobert's epithet]'wives' with your physical, rather than 'spiritual' eyes. Here's the list for your refreshment.

And I'd suggest you open your other eye and click some of the links.

You'll find that there is nothing to contradict what I said.

Regards,
Pahoran