Bishop upbeat as diocese slowly rebounds | The Columbus Dispatch

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Father Fritzner Valcin leads Mass at St. Joseph Cathedral. Unlike other places, the local diocese did not close parishes during the recession.
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Sigmund H Freud

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Jeff wrote:
I wouldn't give this fool a penny.
Fool? Hardly. He holds two doctorate level degrees...and is one of the most knowledgeable men I've ever met. You, obviously, have never met a person of
this caliber.

You should go out of your way to meet him, and engage him in conversation.
You'd change your opinion quickly.
Love of Country

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Steven Streets wrote:
By the way Diocese of Columbus; you owe me reparations and double damages equal to 30 years as a Army musician minus your few good works i can recall in 33 years of obstruction of Justice to this day.
It begins with Pope apologizing to President for sex abuse of military orphans by priests. Then My President can forgive you. He alone can buy my silence under orders.
It happened at the Cathedral too.
How did this Bishop stand before the Statehouse on Dec 16 2006? Did he make appeal to State for aid and support in defense of the victims? of the priests? Or for the Government of Republicans to deny us Justice like Caiaphas before Pilate?
Bless my rapist to say Mass this very day, and make me a trespasser at my own church under promise of arrest and call yourselves Body of Christ?
God bless all your Paper Money as yourselves.
Wise Man only Honor Jesus with Gold and Silver.
33 years you laid this Cross on me without Justice.
I damned Justice by authority of the Cross of Christ. The Catholic Cross of Christ. My Cross.
This post, Linda or Steve or how many other people you name yourself so you can put straw men arguments out there - you are a fool...also this post makes no sense and the fact that it goes on like it does with no rhyme or reason, speaks to me of real mental issues...

Even when an article speaks of nothing religious you and your other many names struggle to keep a thread open by posing opinions and then replying to them again with another name to bash without cause the Catholic Church.

This is one Christian Catholic that does...not...appreciate...it!
Love of Country

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Jun 26, 2011
 
Steven Streets wrote:
The only reson there is a shortage of Priests is the same reason there is a shortage of any life form on Gods green Earth
They need to breed. There needs to be vitality in the stagnet Priest gene pool.
It never will evolve into a better living organism otherwise.
The prohibition on Priests marrying in Anti Christ and Anti Life.
You LEAD by example in DEFENSE of Natural marriage or no one will pay attention to you. DUh
The unNatural Priest shortage is a good thing for the corrupt and incompetent. Thats the only Corpus that wants to keep it that way.
And fight to leep it that way they will ! until G'd himself inervenes on behalf of natural marriage.
Until a Pope can have a wife, the Church does not reflect Jesus own choices by his example.
Linda, what does that even mean, that boy in Columbus? Huh...you are one sick person...
kwg

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Jun 26, 2011
 
George Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>Tell that to unemployed Americans and people in the Southwest witnessing the economic destruction of their cities and states.
No need to go far to tell it to the unemployed and people living in Arizona, just go over to SOUTHWEST Franklin County to find the saving ministries of our faith helping the poor in the Our Lady of Guadalupe mission at the former Lincoln Park West. And go look at another generation of westsiders waiting in the same unemployment lines as their daddy's did when our factories closed and moved to the unionless south. We have to stop blaming innocent victims here and start placing responsibility where it belongs--with the wealthy business owners who hire cheap labor so they can keep a higher profit for themselves. What these immigrants can't do is stand up for their rights to earn a fair wage...and what these wealthy people on local golf courses would like American workers to do is live like these pior, starving immigrants while they have money to drive their new Mercedes to the country club and play 18 with their high maintenance investors. Let us put our money and our time into helping the Americans and other legal working poor stand up for their rights to earn enough to play a round of golf after they take care of landscaping the greens for God's Sake! What would Jesus Do? FORE!
George Jefferson

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Jun 26, 2011
 
kwg wrote:
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No need to go far to tell it to the unemployed and people living in Arizona, just go over to SOUTHWEST Franklin County to find the saving ministries of our faith helping the poor in the Our Lady of Guadalupe mission at the former Lincoln Park West. And go look at another generation of westsiders waiting in the same unemployment lines as their daddy's did when our factories closed and moved to the unionless south. We have to stop blaming innocent victims here and start placing responsibility where it belongs--with the wealthy business owners who hire cheap labor so they can keep a higher profit for themselves. What these immigrants can't do is stand up for their rights to earn a fair wage...and what these wealthy people on local golf courses would like American workers to do is live like these pior, starving immigrants while they have money to drive their new Mercedes to the country club and play 18 with their high maintenance investors. Let us put our money and our time into helping the Americans and other legal working poor stand up for their rights to earn enough to play a round of golf after they take care of landscaping the greens for God's Sake! What would Jesus Do? FORE!
Cry me a river. We need a wall along the border and the end of the abuse of the 14th Amendment that allows anchor babies.
Oh, and YES ON SB5!
roger

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George Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>You must be blind if you haven't seen the Dispatch's rah-rah cheerleading for Muslims in this town. They probably have a footbath outside of Marrison's office.
You are correct. I really have trouble considering muslim a relegion, I know that it is wrong but I consider Muslims the anti-Christ.
Cartman and Butters

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roger wrote:
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You are correct. I really have trouble considering muslim a relegion, I know that it is wrong but I consider Muslims the anti-Christ.
I agree that Islam isn't a religion. It's a socio-political movement that tries to use religion for protection.

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The catholic church has knowingly harbored pedophiles for a great number of years. Why anyone with morals would give them any money is beyond me. The catholic church is the mafia hiding behind religion. Sickening. For those of you that would defend the church. What if it was your kid being defiled by one of their priests. I would gladly spend the rest of my life behind bars if it was my kid.
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George Jefferson wrote

"Cry me a river. We need a wall along the border and the end of the abuse of the 14th Amendment that allows anchor babies"

As a Cherokee, I am assuming that you must be a fellow Native American. Especially since we NEVER sent entry Visa's to Europe for the illegal immigrants, oops, I mean settlers or their anchor baby descendants.
George Jefferson

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Anthony wrote:
George Jefferson wrote
"Cry me a river. We need a wall along the border and the end of the abuse of the 14th Amendment that allows anchor babies"
As a Cherokee, I am assuming that you must be a fellow Native American. Especially since we NEVER sent entry Visa's to Europe for the illegal immigrants, oops, I mean settlers or their anchor baby descendants.
You people came from Asia. In any event, your ancestors were part of no sovereign nation when Europeans arrived, and no, the Iroquois League was not a nation, it was an alliance of tribes.
Sorry Cochise, I'm as "native American" as you are.
retired

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Responses harsh for an article that for most readers described a bishop doing his job well despite personal misfortune. If the article focuses on management that is the choice of the reporter.
Anthony

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George Jefferson Wrote:
"your ancestors were part of no sovereign nation when Europeans arrived"

Sorry to inform you but Feudal Europe was every bit as tribal as anything in the Americas. I am sorry to see that you, being an anchor baby, have such a problem with the realization that you are what you lament others for being. The difference between you and me is that I am not willing to deport all of the descendants of those who came here illegally because it is not the fault of those here today that their ancestors were illegal immigrants.

However, if repealing the 14th Amendment is so important to you, then we will make it real simple, if you cannot trace your ancestry on this land back to the Ice Age, the GO BACK HOME AND DON'T COME BACK.
George Jefferson

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Anthony wrote:
George Jefferson Wrote:
"your ancestors were part of no sovereign nation when Europeans arrived"
Sorry to inform you but Feudal Europe was every bit as tribal as anything in the Americas. I am sorry to see that you, being an anchor baby, have such a problem with the realization that you are what you lament others for being. The difference between you and me is that I am not willing to deport all of the descendants of those who came here illegally because it is not the fault of those here today that their ancestors were illegal immigrants.
However, if repealing the 14th Amendment is so important to you, then we will make it real simple, if you cannot trace your ancestry on this land back to the Ice Age, the GO BACK HOME AND DON'T COME BACK.
I would hardly call the British Empire of the 17th century "tribal." They were on their way to ruling a quarter of the planet.
Europeans were colonizers of an ungoverned territory.
I'll bug out just as soon as you head back to Asia.
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The feudal kings, lords, and principalities of pre-Napoleonic Europe show that Europe was tribal. That is why Europe today has a large number of small countries in it today.

The British Colonial empire was built through conquest. Which by the way is the same way that the Russian, French, Mayan, Roman, Dutch, Incan, Chinese, Portuguese, and Aztec empires were built. You cannot wage war against people who do not have government. Archeology shows that all peoples have formed governments to organize their affairs. The colonial empires did not invent government, nor warfare.

My point is that those of you who have such a problem with "anchor babies" are nothing by "anchor babies" yourselves. If the presence of the descendants of illegal immigrants is such a problem for you, then you need to lead by example; as the descendant of illegal immigrants, and leave. I am not the one who wants to repeal the 14th Amendment, you are.
Meredith Heagney

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Jun 27, 2011
 
Dennis Grady wrote:
Why did the Dispatch alter the photo showing the
interior of St. Joseph Church?
Everyone knows that the organ is in the back of the church and not behind the altar as shown here.
Please explain, The Columbus Dispatch.
Dennis,

The photo is not, in any way, altered. The group of worshipers at noon Mass at the Cathedral sits behind the altar, rather than in the pews. They face the pews and the organ at the back of the church. Our photographer was shooting from behind them, so she captured the priest and the organ behind him.

We do not alter photographs at the Dispatch. It would be a major violation of our ethics policy, the kind of cardinal sin of journalism that would likely result in a firing. Simply put: We don't do that.

I'm sorry I didn't see the comment earlier so I could respond right away. Thank you for reading.
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retired wrote:
Responses harsh for an article that for most readers described a bishop doing his job well despite personal misfortune. If the article focuses on management that is the choice of the reporter.
And indead you are correct that the reporter and the publishers do have the control over the content and initial distributiin of this article. So let us read that into our analysis and interpretation and see what we understand from it.

"The Bishop of the Columbus Diocese eas interviewed by a Dispatch reporter and according to the article published, the Bishop says that The Diocese contimued to meet their financial goals and did not liquidate anymore struggling parish churches in places of high poverty such as the Appalachian ciunties in Ohio." Now if we are understanding the text correctly--he did not force any further consolidation yet of numerous struggling parishes in Franklin County, but may begin some sharing of clergy between neighborhood parishes (especially those who fail to donate enough to the Bishop's annual appeal to meet the dollar amount goal set for them by the Bishop and his financial advisors). Now what if any missions other than keeping rural parishes open and building up the local pool of FELLOW priests did this article say Catholics are donating money to his appeal to support? And what if anything did this article say about the way our donations are used to help poor people who are the victims of this current recession in this Diocese? I am pleased he was able to maintain his work during his illness. Unfortunately, as a trusting, giving, and forgivimg Catholuc lay employee, he and his flock failed to provide me with the same opportunity. I supose I didn't donate enough of my salary to the bishop and my belived parish through payroll deduction--so they punished me by taking all of it. When they did that to me, unlike Bishoo Campbell who maintained his work and position, they effectively ended my career and my ability to earn a fair market wage in the only profession and job I am able to do with my disabilities and my Masters in Education. I have no further resources for retraining or transportation. We list those when I list my job on the night before major knee replacement surgery. I pray for them cause that is all I have left to give.

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