Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#245552 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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I'm right here, sweetums LyinLoriLynn.
I'm not melting.
I never do, actually.
:)
Apparently you are, since my name isn't Lori or Lynne. lol.

You always meltdown and go off on insult fests filled with vicious lies whenever a PLer has posted truth you know hit you. To believe otherwise is just once again displaying you're only fooling yourself. Rational people do see your meltdowns. Making posts like someone's deceased husband is rotting, or something about DOTDS is always the clear indication you know what was said about you was the truth, and you didn't like it. It's your lash out behavior that proves it every time.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#245553 Jun 26, 2012
Doc Degall wrote:
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The reasonable inference is that a preemie born at 24 weeks will require some level of medical assistance/artificial support without which it will most likely expire.
You're assuming Doc.
Doc Degall wrote:
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The determination of viability is made on a case by case basis and is not contingent on some arbitrary designation of a percentage chance for survival. If a physician determines that a preemie has a reasonable chance to survive and further develop with available medical technology then he will make a determination of viability.
Then why so much fuss about the 50/50 chance of survival outside the womb as the demarcating point of viability? 40% chance of survival is not a reasonable chance of survival by any reasonable standard.
Doc Degall wrote:
What are you talking about ? Of course no doctor is going to induce labor at 24 weeks for no reason, if continuing the pregnancy is a reasonably safe option. Does not change the fact that preemies prematurely born at 24 weeks have been shown to have a 50/50 chance of survival......WITH or WITHOUT medical asssistance, however given the development of a typical 24 week old fetus the likelihood of no medical assistance AT ALL being required is remote.
Remote does not equal to "a preemie born at 24 weeks will require some level of medical assistance/artificial support without which it will most likely expire." You're vacillating Doc.
Doc Degall wrote:
What does it matter ? If it's actually required or a physician applies it as a pre caution ( which means he is not sure if it is required or not ).
Considering what you state as the reasonable inference, as I quote above, it matters a lot.
Doc Degall wrote:
Fine. Don't use the word required. Semantics.
Bottom line is you agree. The application of medical assistnce/artificial support, whether deemed to be "required" or done as a precaution.....does NOT preclude viability.
Yes, I am in agreement with that statement, providing we have the minimum 50/50 chance of survival outside the womb. But, the perception is rather prevalent that somehow you're leaning towards medical assistance as a requirement, given your statement ("a preemie born at 24 weeks will require [emphasis added] some level of medical assistance/artificial support without which it will most likely expire."). So let me rephrase; is your statement (in parenthesis) directly correlated to respiratory assistance?

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#245554 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
Here I am, drop-outs!
Once again you are wrong. It's your natural state of existence, actually.
Wow!

How could I be in New Jersey and Bellmore simultaneously?

Maybe the "geniuses" Lynn and Skanky {{giggle}} can tell me?

LOLOL!

“Nasty Nana”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#245555 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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I'm right here, sweetums LyinLoriLynn.
I'm not melting.
I never do, actually.
:)
Good day My Ladi. I see you're busy at work, L-L-F have it out for you today, shame they're just not that good at, well, anything really. ;-)
LadiLulu

United States

#245556 Jun 26, 2012
Boo!

LOL!

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#245557 Jun 26, 2012
Lady_Venus wrote:
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Good day My Ladi. I see you're busy at work, L-L-F have it out for you today, shame they're just not that good at, well, anything really. ;-)
Yes, well, this is what we expect from L-L-Fs! We need to keep our expectations LOW, after all!

Good day Lady V!

xoxo!

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#245558 Jun 26, 2012
How about alveda king? She says she is against abortion and had two of them--and attempted to have a third. She only noted disliking the process when she realized her bread and butter came from those who disapproved of her choices. And then the PLM'ers got even stupider and allowed the Human Fetus Cannon to represent them. Don't tell me she's repented...you idiots will fall for anything. She can't get a real jobl so she trades in on her name.
SassyJM wrote:
<quoted text> You support abortion as choice, AND you've aborted, therefore,you're not *against* abortion.
Be honest for once in your life.
This is an an abortion forum and you claim to be prochoice,remember ? I,OTOH, am against abortion and will NOT support one of those choices.
Simple stuff.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#245559 Jun 26, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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...You always meltdown and go off on insult fests filled with vicious lies whenever a PLer has posted truth you know hit you.....
No, sweetie. I just love abusing you two. You deserve it!

Simply put!

: D

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#245560 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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She said "I would rather my daughter die than have an abortion".
Nothing hypothetical about that, toots. It was ALWAYS referring to a life-saving abortion, Persy I mean Lynn.
AND she said that her motive was to save her daughter's "soul", so YES she would KILL HER (by not saving her she IS killing her, stupid).
The two drop-outs don't even know how to interpret simple concepts.
What a shock!
"She said "I would rather my daughter die than have an abortion".
Nothing hypothetical about that, toots."

Of course it was hypothetical, you pinhead, because it was an answer to a hypothetical question.

"The two drop-outs don't even know how to interpret simple concepts."

If we're both drop outs, we've both proven that you're not smarter than a drop out, because you're the one who doesn't understand the concept of hypotheticals.

So "not saving" someone is "killing" them, in your warped perception of reality?

So all the cops, fireman, doctors etc. who did NOT SAVE people, had "killed" those people? Makes a lot of sense.

"It was ALWAYS referring to a life-saving abortion,..."
I don't believe any of you PC about that. I believe Sassy, since she her claims have consistently been proven to be true where you PC are concerned. Foo can bring up all the links she wants with the question about life-saving abortion, but that's not proof it was the very first time that subject had ever been posted on.

"AND she said that her motive was to save her daughter's "soul", "

Nothing wrong for a Christian to have that motive. Keep in mind, it was a hypothetical question meaning; it was a WHAT IF type of question. Fact is, she's said repeatedly, her daughter is also Christian and would not get an abortion, so the question in reference to Sassy's daughter and abortion is actually irrelevant, since she'd never have an abortion so Sassy would never have to make that kind of choice.

YOU on the other hand DID make that kind of life or death choice where your 1st child was concerned. You choose death for that child. That's where there's no hypothetical there, Toots.

“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#245561 Jun 26, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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"Of course you haven't been able to find anything. I knew you wouldn't. I also knew you'd use that as your excuse, since you can't rebut, or in this case, disprove, my contention. It's no wonder you need my help. What's next; you're going to ask me to spoonfeed you and then move your jaw up and down so you can chew your food?"
Interesting projection, since it's you who can't prove your own claims.
Still waiting on proof of your last claim made when posting to me.
Did you find that post which states what you claimed was stated?
Ah, the infamous "who's on first, what's on second, I don't know is on third" defense. How bonehead of you Lynniekins.

lil Lily wrote:
"It was already posted" is not proof. It's an excuse for not providing it. All you people can post all day long are just projections of what it is you each do and how you each are.
Proof, proof, proof. What are you up to Lynne; 95% proof?

“Don't kill me mom”

Since: Jul 09

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#245562 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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She doesn't understand tenses. She doesn't understand that to withold treatment from someone who will DIE without it IS to KILL them, katie.
There's a great deal she is incapable of processing, katie.
Again, it is a proaborts opinion that both can't be saved or the attempt to.

My gf vs.your gfs scenerio showed DIFFERENT results. My friends kids are alive and so is she and your friends child is eead but she is alive.

Had my friend stayed with her original OB,who claimed she HAD no choice but to abort or she would die and her baby would have no chance to survive anyway because of it. She REFUSED to take his opinion and sought out another Dr who helped her.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#245563 Jun 26, 2012
Katie wrote:
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The hypothetical WAS about a life-saving abortion, JM. Do not erroneously and foolishly call me a liar or imply I am a liar. Just because that's all you know, well, it is not applicable to all who know you. The hypothetical's been linked and relinked many times. The only exaggeration is yours. And that lying friend(s) of yours.
(just as you judge others, you, too are judged by the company you keep)
"Do not erroneously and foolishly call me a liar or imply I am a liar. "

Sassy, don't you DARE do to Katie what she has repeatedly done to others here. How DARE you.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#245564 Jun 26, 2012
There's a whole genre of gay porn concerning gay men boxing and/or wrestling with each other; often, they don't even have sex. It's a fetish, and one blueboy probably can't understand about himself.
Kathwynn wrote:
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You know what just "brawl with a man"... LOL

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#245565 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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She doesn't understand tenses. She doesn't understand that to withold treatment from someone who will DIE without it IS to KILL them, katie.
There's a great deal she is incapable of processing, katie.
So doctor's withholding the treatment are KILLING the patient. They are the ones who actually do the withholding of treatment. Or is your pea brain unable to process that fact.
Katie

Kent, WA

#245566 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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She doesn't understand tenses. She doesn't understand that to withold treatment from someone who will DIE without it IS to KILL them, katie.
There's a great deal she is incapable of processing, katie.
La, I love you. But I'm not agreeing with your claim that withholding treatment equals killing someone. I understand what you're getting at, but I don't agree. Right to refuse treatment may end in death, too. But it doesn't equal active killing.

Women with fatal pregnancies have the civil right to refuse life-saving treatment (abortion). Maybe you or I would not agree with it, but it is the woman's right to determine her own outcome -- even if it's death.

The hypothetical for JM clearly highlights her double-standard and fetal worship above all else. We are in agreement about that.

“Nasty Nana”

Since: Jun 12

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#245567 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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No, sweetie. I just love abusing you two. You deserve it!
Simply put!
: D
Giggle!!!
It hurts them so good, it is what they thrive on after all!
;-)

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#245568 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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Exactly.
She's been linked to it dozens of times.
She's simply ashamed of her response, as it means she is on par with Andrea Yates.
Yes, that is surely the company she keeps, as well.
She has said her initial answer was about an elective abortion. I believe there was a conversation much earlier that started off with that very thing. We all know how discussions on a topic that occurred in one period of time, have also occurred at several other periods of time. Foo is only linking ONE period of time in which this was discussed here. Unlike you people who just believe everything you see and hear at face value, many of us who are capable of reason know better.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#245569 Jun 26, 2012
Trust me, it's absolutely beyond them. I keep getting "accused" of performing fellatio and liking it, even when they know I'm a gay man. It's absolutely priceless. You have no idea how many times I as an atheist have been threatened with hell or, even funnier, been yelled at for "hating god".

I wonder, do they spend their time hating ahura-mazda and other gods they don't believe in?
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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That's what these stupid-idiot fundies just don't get through their cement block heads. It's their dogma, not ours. Atheists, agnostics, wiccans and people of other religions are not a part of their Christian dogma and don't follow it so it's not relevant to how we behave in this world. We are not Christians. We do not follow Christian teachings.
It's absolute stupidity for a Christian, who has been called out for not acting like a Christian, to then point to an atheist and whine that the atheist doesn't act "Christ-like" either.
It's so simple even a fundie should be able to understand it.

“Don't kill me mom”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#245570 Jun 26, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
Here I am, drop-outs!
Once again you are wrong. It's your natural state of existence, actually.
Give it up lala. IP addys can change from one side of a building to another. Change your computer(ipad, laptop, pc, iphone) and the same thing can happen.

There are many ways to change location , miss "educated". Your fooling yourself not us.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#245571 Jun 26, 2012
Doc Degall wrote:
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That's not what was meant and you know it. No one said medical assistance must be warranted on every preterm delivery. Only that the need for medical assistance/artificial support does not preclude viability. And it DOES NOT.
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Does the definition "capable of living" expressly exclude the need for medical assistance ? Of course not. Find me a definition where the the need for medical assistance is expressly excluded. So far you've come up empty.
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You for one .....are wrong. RvW established an already existing definition of viability as legal precedent. And as such it DEFINED viability for the purpose of abortion statutes. Just as States have DEFINED the fetus as a person for the purposes of fetal homicide laws.
Take a look at the very case you cite.....Planned Parenthood vs Danforth :
"In Roe, we used the term "viable," properly we thought, to signify the point at which the fetus is "potentially able to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid," and presumably capable of "meaningful life outside the mother's womb," 410 U.S. at 160, 163. We noted that this point "is usually placed" at about seven months or 28 weeks, but may occur earlier. Id. at 160.
We agree with the District Court, and conclude that the definition of viability in the Act does not conflict with what was said and held in Roe."
If the definition of viability was never established or held in Roe....then what is the Supreme Court saying the Missouri abortion statute does not conflict with ???????
The fact that Katie even said, "... As if medical assistance must be warranted and used on each and every preterm delivery," which is nowhere close to anything that any of us said; proves without a doubt, the girl can't read for comprehension. Not one bit.

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