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Zzyzzx
Cookeville, TN
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Huh wrote: Just because we disagree with you we must be "closet homosexuals?" I did not state that. I stated that a study has indicated a strong degree of correlation between the vitriol a person displays at the LGBT community and the likelihood that they themselves are closeted homosexuals. And that is a fact. I did not call you a closeted homosexual or anyone else for that matter. Huh wrote: Why have you not told people how this group sent letters to churches telling them how they it was an anti-bullying group and that they were asking for the churches support. It was an anti-bullying group. Huh wrote: Not once did they tell the churches that they were a hosting a homosexual pride festival. So it is your argument then that gay people should be exempt from anti-bullying measures? Tell us, why do you feel homosexuals should be bullied? Huh wrote: The church people who went to show their support really got an eyeful. There was someone who stipped down to a g-string. And yet at the other end of the park there were perfectly heterosexual people running around in bikinis playing in the fountain showing much more skin than any of the performers at the celebration. Either you are ignorant of this fact or merely intellectually dishonest. So which is it? Huh wrote: Yes, you ungrateful bunch of homosexuals, there was people there who wanted to be supportive but after seeing some of the crap that went on, I can guarantee you they had a different view of you when they left. I am not homosexual. I fail to see why you would have received an opinion of me one way or the other. Yet as an attendee, I saw no "crap" going on. Quite the contrary, it was a family friendly event and my six-year-old son had a gay ol' time. Huh wrote: The women were the worst! Some of them were dressed like male thugs. And how was that bad? Shouldn't you be proud and happy for them that they could be themselves and have a venue where they were enjoyed for who they are? I can tell you I am proud of every single one of the men and women there, even those I know personally and dislike(and who dislike me in return). Huh wrote: How do you expect to be treated with respect when you don't even respect yourselves. That type of behavior belongs in clubs not out in public. I saw no one disrespecting themselves. Or anyone else, for that matter. Tell me, when you meet a young guy dressed as a "thug" do you become so sanctimonious with him? Huh wrote: Get on here and rant and rave if you want. Hell, even get in pissing contest with people. But don't lie to people to get them to support your agenda and then shit in their face when they show up. I have no agenda. I've no horse in this race, so to speak. Marriage equality will never effect me. Anti-bullying measures will never effect me. But there are people who it will effect. People whose lives will be changed for the better by that. I find it more than a little disgusting that you do not feel motivated by the same desire to make lives better. How odd is it that it's not the Christians around here striving to make the world a better place, it's the atheists.
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disgusted
Cookeville, TN
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You can try to justify your sickness in every which way from Sunday to soothe your ill mind. You are just blowing smoke and probably every man in town as well. You people will NOT be back next year to commit indecent acts in our PUBLIC parks! As for the comment about how some 6 year-old child had a "gay 'ol time", a child of that age is just forming their minds and it is frankly sickening that some parent would expose their small child to a thing like this. It is a form of child abuse!
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disgusted
Cookeville, TN
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And you deserve to be bullied after admitting that there were homosexuals in g-strings parading all around and you see nothing wrong with children being exposed to that. How the hell does that make the world a better place? Cookeville is a family-oriented town and NOT the place for this crap to be happening in our public parks because a group of homosexuals think that public indecency helps the community to accept them. Your plan was a complete fail. Now, bask in your epic failure, queerbaits!
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Follower
United States
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disgusted wrote: You can try to justify your sickness in every which way from Sunday to soothe your ill mind. You are just blowing smoke and probably every man in town as well. You people will NOT be back next year to commit indecent acts in our PUBLIC parks! As for the comment about how some 6 year-old child had a "gay 'ol time", a child of that age is just forming their minds and it is frankly sickening that some parent would expose their small child to a thing like this. It is a form of child abuse! A warnig to you in advance. This guy can never be wrong, he has convinced his self of that. He is so correct he is starting to get more people to argue with than he can keep up with. It appears no one is correct about anything but him! Good for a laugh anyhow, he is.
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Soo
Cookeville, TN
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disgusted wrote: You can try to justify your sickness in every which way from Sunday to soothe your ill mind. You are just blowing smoke and probably every man in town as well. You people will NOT be back next year to commit indecent acts in our PUBLIC parks! As for the comment about how some 6 year-old child had a "gay 'ol time", a child of that age is just forming their minds and it is frankly sickening that some parent would expose their small child to a thing like this. It is a form of child abuse! There were no one in G-Strings, and the entire event was just singers and dancers. I'd say it was quite family-friendly. There were about 4-5 kids there, about 60 teenagers, and 60 adults. I'm straight and went with one of my gay friends and some other straight friends. You should go to dragshow sometime - it is all about the entertainment! People have such a great time because we can all laugh at how absurd it can be sometimes. Guy doing splits and dancing in heels better than most women? Absolutely entertaining, haha But go ahead, try to stop it. You won't be able to. We live in the land of the free, where we can say what the hell we want without the government stopping us. If you think you can stop it, then you sir are certainly not living with the American spirit.
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Soo
Cookeville, TN
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And just to prove you something - the police were there - I counted 6 officers. Pretty sure they would be more than glad to arrest someone walking around in a g-string! There are laws against that!
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NoNo
Dresden, TN
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No one said they were walking around. They were on stage performing.
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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disgusted wrote: You can try to justify your sickness in every which way from Sunday to soothe your ill mind. What illness would that be? Please be sure to cite diagnostic criteria(if we're to assume you're implying mental illness, please make the relevant DSM citation). disgusted wrote: You are just blowing smoke and probably every man in town as well. No, I don't smoke, it is bad for your health. disgusted wrote: You people will NOT be back next year to commit indecent acts in our PUBLIC parks! There were no indecent acts. As the police were right there, one could safely assume they'd enforce decency laws. disgusted wrote: As for the comment about how some 6 year-old child had a "gay 'ol time", a child of that age is just forming their minds and it is frankly sickening that some parent would expose their small child to a thing like this. It is a form of child abuse! It is not sickening at all. Afterward he, I, and my girlfriend had a nice talk about the importance of fairness and love. He found the experience enjoyable and is already asking to do it again. I'd argue that raising your child to adopt superstitions while their ability to reason and think critically atrophys is child abuse. Christianity is a form of child abuse that removes a child's ability to do mental work as surely as amputation removes much of its ability to do physical work. Christianity is, in fact, codified child abuse. disgusted wrote: And you deserve to be bullied after admitting that there were homosexuals in g-strings parading all around and you see nothing wrong with children being exposed to that. How the hell does that make the world a better place? Cookeville is a family-oriented town and NOT the place for this crap to be happening in our public parks because a group of homosexuals think that public indecency helps the community to accept them. Your plan was a complete fail. Now, bask in your epic failure, queerbaits! What indecency? You'd be better placed arguing the folks in bikinis who frequent the fountain, cxu ne? disgusted wrote: A warnig to you in advance. This guy can never be wrong, he has convinced his self of that. He is so correct he is starting to get more people to argue with than he can keep up with. It appears no one is correct about anything but him! Good for a laugh anyhow, he is. If you feel I have been incorrect on anything, feel free to quote where I was in error and post citations to data showing my statements to be erroneous.
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just saying
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text>
Please be sure to cite diagnostic criteria<quoted text>
No, I don't smoke, it is bad for your health.
<quoted text>
. 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age Top six U.S. serial killers were all involved in homosexuality Past 5 years: 22% of 2,281 male homosexuals reported gay-on-gay physical violence; 5.1% reported gay-on-gay rape 23% of gays reported sex with boys aged <16; 7% with boys aged <13 Media News Reports, 1980-2006 902 teachers molested 3,457 students; 43% of perpetrators were homosexual 1400 principals asked about teacher-student sex complaints 7% reported homosexual contact, 13% heterosexual contact; 35% of all complaints were about homosexual teachers New York State — 225 reported cases of student sexual abuse by “professional staff;” 27% of abuses were homosexual North Carolina — 21 high school teachers disciplined for sexual contact with students in “past 3 years;” 29% were homosexual 199 teachers disciplined for molesting pupils in 10 western U.S. states 32% of perpetrators engaged in homosexuality 73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex You asked for some stats, you received some very damaging facts. Be more careful of what you ask for, you just might get it. Quit trying to sound smart and just educate yourself instead. This will work better for you in the long run, obviously the trying to sound smart part is failing you miserably.
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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just saying wrote: <quoted text>
21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things
Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident
Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries
41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs
37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism
73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age
Top six U.S. serial killers were all involved in homosexuality
Past 5 years: 22% of 2,281 male homosexuals reported gay-on-gay physical violence; 5.1% reported gay-on-gay rape
23% of gays reported sex with boys aged <16; 7% with boys aged <13
Media News Reports, 1980-2006
902 teachers molested 3,457 students; 43% of perpetrators were homosexual
1400 principals asked about teacher-student sex complaints
7% reported homosexual contact, 13% heterosexual contact; 35% of all complaints were about homosexual teachers
New York State — 225 reported cases of student sexual abuse by “professional staff;” 27% of abuses were homosexual
North Carolina — 21 high school teachers disciplined for sexual contact with students in “past 3 years;” 29% were homosexual
199 teachers disciplined for molesting pupils in 10 western U.S. states
32% of perpetrators engaged in homosexuality
73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger
73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization
25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics
Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States
One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex
You asked for some stats, you received some very damaging facts.
Be more careful of what you ask for, you just might get it.
Quit trying to sound smart and just educate yourself instead. This will work better for you in the long run, obviously the trying to sound smart part is failing you miserably. Heh. Before copying and pasting numbers from the internet, you should look into them first. I checked out your post(copied wholesale, might I add) and saw the numbers come from "Is Homosexual Activity Normal" by E. Fields, an organizer in the white supremecist movement. The article has zero peer-review and no citations for data collected. So you've still not provided any data I requested, quite the contrary. What you did do is become guilty of argument by Google as has been actively demonstrated by your post being verbatim quotes from a discredited source. Will follower get onto you for your argument by Google? I doubt it.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text>
Heh. Before copying and pasting numbers from the internet, you should look into them first. I checked out your post(copied wholesale, might I add) and saw the numbers come from "Is Homosexual Activity Normal" by E. Fields, an organizer in the white supremecist movement. The article has zero peer-review and no citations for data collected. So you've still not provided any data I requested, quite the contrary. What you did do is become guilty of argument by Google as has been actively demonstrated by your post being verbatim quotes from a discredited source. Will follower get onto you for your argument by Google? I doubt it. 1) Advocate, 1985. (2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry. (3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978. (4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299. (5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987. (6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38. (7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE. (8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA. (9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275. (10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992. (11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254. (12) Lesbian News, January 1994. (13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11. (14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438. (15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96. (17) Newsweek, February 1993. (18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993. (19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37. (20) Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53. (21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk." (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992. (23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322. (24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990. (25) "The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987. (26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989. (28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp. (29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994 These were the citations! Did you have anything else to add?
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you are wrong often
Cookeville, TN
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wondering wrote: <quoted text>
1) Advocate, 1985.
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
(20) Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk."
(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
(25) "The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
(26) United States Census Bureau
(27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp.
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994
These were the citations!
Did you have anything else to add? the hook, the line, and the sinker
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text>
Heh. Before copying and pasting numbers from the internet, you should look into them first. I checked out your post(copied wholesale, might I add) and saw the numbers come from "Is Homosexual Activity Normal" by E. Fields, an organizer in the white supremecist movement. The article has zero peer-review and no citations for data collected. So you've still not provided any data I requested, quite the contrary. What you did do is become guilty of argument by Google as has been actively demonstrated by your post being verbatim quotes from a discredited source. Will follower get onto you for your argument by Google? I doubt it. A common sense approach rather than the quick google and click the first link approach will educate you much more. I hope that after you have made a fool of youself in the post above, you would grasp this concept rather than reject it.
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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1) 27 year old stats. 2) 31 year old stats. 3) 34 year old stats. 4) 27 year old stats. 5) 25 year old stats. 6) 32 year old stats. 7) non-peer-reviewed claim from a known hate group. 8) non-peer-reviewed claim from a known white supremecist organizer 9) 33 year old stats. 10) non-peer-reviewed claim from a newspaper 20 years ago 11) bald-faced lie. there is no Medical Journal of Homosexuality 12) non-peer-reviewed claim from a non-peer-reviewed source. 18 years old 13) 35 year old stats. questionable review. 14) 28 year old failed argument on HIV origins 15) non-peer-reviewed claims from non-peer-reviewed source 16) 27 year old stats. 17) non-peer-reviewed claim from non-peer-reviewed source. 17 years old. 18) non-peer-reviewed claim from non-peer-reviewed source. 17 years old. 19) 26 year old stats 20) non-peer-reviewed claim. 30 years old. 21) 28 year old pamphlet. no peer-review. 22) non-peer-reviewed claim from a non-peer-reviewed source. 20 years old 23) non-peer-reviewed claim from a non-peer-reviewed source. 19 years old 24) 22 year old stats 25) non-peer-reviewed claim from a non-peer-reviewed source. 25 years old 26) No date cited 27) non-peer-reviewed claim from a non-peer-reviewed source. 23 years old 28) No such organization shown to ever exist. 29) Not the most current DSM contains falsified data(hence the revisions) Many of the things you posted are factually accurate as well. I could give a full breakdown if you wish. A pity you do not actually know the subject and had to resort to posting verbatim the things you have googled. The best you can do is some stats that are decades old, some newspaper articles, and some patent lies. I find myself unimpressed. So again, cite data or concede you have none.
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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wondering wrote: <quoted text>
A common sense approach rather than the quick google and click the first link approach will educate you much more.
I hope that after you have made a fool of youself in the post above, you would grasp this concept rather than reject it. I have yet to make a fool of myself. As you can see, I have torn apart the poor fellows googled argument apart source by source. He simply has no data with which to support his argument.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text>
I have yet to make a fool of myself. As you can see, I have torn apart the poor fellows googled argument apart source by source. He simply has no data with which to support his argument. Until you provide any data showing otherwise, the data is taken for correct data. All these stats were well documented contrary to your useless opinion. Feel free to show otherwise! The data was provided, now in your hands to prove it's wrong. What you THINK is totally useless. The interest is in facts, not opinions.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: 1) Many of the things you posted are factually accurate as well. I could give a full breakdown if you wish. Why don't you do that?
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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wondering wrote: <quoted text>
Until you provide any data showing otherwise, the data is taken for correct data. All these stats were well documented contrary to your useless opinion. Feel free to show otherwise!
The data was provided, now in your hands to prove it's wrong. What you THINK is totally useless. The interest is in facts, not opinions. LMAO, decades old statistics on emergent social phenomena? My opinion is far from useless, though your failure to grasp the subject is expected. You're lack of education is shining through again. I'll get you that breakdown when I get home this evening. By the way, that Dunning Kruger thing I mentioned, you're doing it again.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: .
I find myself unimpressed.. Many FACTS were provided for you to examine, twist them however you feel necessary. You asked and you received. Dont whine now about how bad the medicine tastes! How you find yourself is irrelevant not to mention at this point totally useless.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text>
I'll get you that breakdown when I get home this evening. By the way, that Dunning Kruger thing I mentioned, you're doing it again. I am not familiar with this thing you mentioned and you have not mentioned it to me before. Once again, you are mistaken. Swallow your pride and grasp it. It is okay to be wrong. It appears this poor soul is the example of what you get when we started handing out awards for every kid on the team. They are never wrong and they can't admit that maybe committing the most errors and grounding into the most double plays on the team somehow doesn't warrant a trophy!
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