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Well
Sparta, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text> Learn to read, kiddo, I was noting the meaning of the word zachar. And it doesn't translate to "as with a woman" so much as "as with the lyings of a woman", a reference to Qadeshah or temple prostitutes. So again the argument is being made against ritual pederasty, not homosexuality. No...you said..."ZACHAR is a male that has been set aside for use in ritual." This is what you NOW saying...... "I was noting the meaning of the word ZACHAR.And it doesn't translate to "as with a woman" so much as "as with the lyings of a woman", a reference to Qadeshah or temple prostitutes. So which is it, is it a bull, by your example OR is it a lying whore?
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Well
Sparta, TN
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Well wrote: <quoted text> No...you said..."ZACHAR is a male that has been set aside for use in ritual." This is what you NOW saying...... "I was noting the meaning of the word ZACHAR.And it doesn't translate to "as with a woman" so much as "as with the lyings of a woman", a reference to Qadeshah or temple prostitutes. So which is it, is it a bull, by your example OR is it a lying whore? Sorry I didn't grab all your illustrious words of wisdom. "But zachar doesn't mean just any male. ZACHAR is a male that has been set aside for use in ritual. A sacrificial BULL WOULD BE A ZACHAR, for instance"....... So, that would make a ZACHAR a....LYING SACRIFICIAL BULL PROSTITUTE
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pie
Plymouth, MI
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Well wrote: <quoted text> No...you said..."ZACHAR is a male that has been set aside for use in ritual." This is what you NOW saying...... "I was noting the meaning of the word ZACHAR.And it doesn't translate to "as with a woman" so much as "as with the lyings of a woman", a reference to Qadeshah or temple prostitutes. So which is it, is it a bull, by your example OR is it a lying whore? Hey! Don't talk about your mama like that
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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Well wrote: <quoted text> No...you said..."ZACHAR is a male that has been set aside for use in ritual." This is what you NOW saying...... "I was noting the meaning of the word ZACHAR.And it doesn't translate to "as with a woman" so much as "as with the lyings of a woman", a reference to Qadeshah or temple prostitutes. So which is it, is it a bull, by your example OR is it a lying whore? More dishonesty from the Christian, no surprise. Zachar means a male set aside for ritual purposes. A sacrificial bull would be zachar, a qadesh(male temple prostitute) would be zachar, A qadeshah is a female temple prostitute and is what the "as with the lyings of a woman" is in reference to. Which is further emphasizing that the argument is being made against ritual pederasty.
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Serenity Now
Cookeville, TN
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Dont try talking to this person. They need prayers, because it is obvious from the words they chose that they feel superior. Most of the time people who try to sound smarter than you have very low self-esteem and prefer to point out what is wrong with others. Maybe they are without sin and thats why they cast so many stones. zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text> The bible does not call homosexuality an abomination. Why do you bear false witness against scripture?
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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Serenity Now wrote: Dont try talking to this person. They need prayers, because it is obvious from the words they chose that they feel superior. Most of the time people who try to sound smarter than you have very low self-esteem and prefer to point out what is wrong with others. Maybe they are without sin and thats why they cast so many stones. I am your superior. Self-esteem does not enter the issue, I do not let emotion enter into debate. I do not try to "sound smarter", I merely am smarter. It requires no expendature of effort as it is how things are. I note you did not actually have any rebuttal to my argument, merely ad hominem.
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understand
United States
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God loves all his children regardless of who they are. We will all stand before him and we all will explain ourselves for the wrong things we have done. Let God be God and don't judge people when its in no way your place.
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Well
Sparta, TN
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Well, this does it for me....I need nothing further to understand the interaction between a person and his mate..........
"23 And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because SHE was taken out of MAN.” 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
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Zzyzzx
Cookeville, TN
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Well wrote: Well, this does it for me....I need nothing further to understand the interaction between a person and his mate.......... "23 And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because SHE was taken out of MAN.” 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." So it seems that not only will you bear false witness against the bible, you are actively ignorant of what is in it. For instance you posted only one form of marriage the bible describes and condones. The bible, however, contains and supports multiple forms of marriage. One such example would be levirate marriage described in Devarim 25:5-10. "5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel. 7 However, if a man does not want to marry his brother’s wife, she shall go to the elders at the town gate and say,“My husband’s brother refuses to carry on his brother’s name in Israel. He will not fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to me.” 8 Then the elders of his town shall summon him and talk to him. If he persists in saying,“I do not want to marry her,” 9 his brother’s widow shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, take off one of his sandals, spit in his face and say,“This is what is done to the man who will not build up his brother’s family line.” 10 That man’s line shall be known in Israel as The Family of the Unsandaled." Your ignorance of scripture demonstrates itself yet again. And most sickeningly, you choose to remain ignorant of scripture as a means for bearing false witness against it. You simply do not care about fact to any degree.
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LOL You are a moron
Cookeville, TN
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Revolted and disgusted wrote: OK, I drove by Dogwood Park yesterday afternoon and prayed for the eyes of the lost people there to be opened. But meanwhile I remain offended and disgusted, not to mention revolted, at the notion that absolute filth and debauchery was "celebrated" and taken pride in, right in the middle of our city. It absolutely disgusts me. And one more time for you supporters on this thread, I don't hate the people, just the evil they practice. Furthermore, I hate the evil I practice in my own life, whatever it is. The apostle Paul felt the same way when he wrote the seventh chapter of Romans. Later in the evening I happened to pass by again (around midnight) and there was still hootin' and hollerin' going on. I fully support the right of sodomites to gather together as that right is guaranteed by the Constitution, just as I have the right to gather with fellow Christians, or whomever. But that does not mean I approve of it. As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord, and will never consider these "alternate lifestyles" legitimate, will never accept a redefinition of marriage, or teaching this kind of filth in the schools. NEVER. There is no way in HELL you could have driven by and seen all the people...the event was held by the stage behind the library. For those of you who have not been there.... the stage is behind the library (road view mostly blocked) the police station and drama center block a great portion of the view from the side where Exotic Tropicals is located, and for the side where the parking lot for the park is (it is blocked by a few more businesses). Furthermore, the stage is down below the level of the street since the park terraced the area in front to make room for people to sit. So explain to me how you "drove by" and saw anything???? Jesus you people need to get a life and get over it. Gay people are a part of society and are not going anywhere. Once you realize being gay is not a disease that is contagious you might be able to sleep better at night. I know myself and probably every other gay person in the country does not loose sleep over the fact we are gay. Oh and before you start mentioning AIDS and HIV, you better check your facts. More straight people have it than gay people.
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Well
Sparta, TN
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Zzyzzx wrote: <quoted text> So it seems that not only will you bear false witness against the bible, you are actively ignorant of what is in it. For instance you posted only one form of marriage the bible describes and condones. The bible, however, contains and supports multiple forms of marriage. One such example would be levirate marriage described in Devarim 25:5-10. "5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel. 7 However, if a man does not want to marry his brother’s wife, she shall go to the elders at the town gate and say,“My husband’s brother refuses to carry on his brother’s name in Israel. He will not fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to me.” 8 Then the elders of his town shall summon him and talk to him. If he persists in saying,“I do not want to marry her,” 9 his brother’s widow shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, take off one of his sandals, spit in his face and say,“This is what is done to the man who will not build up his brother’s family line.” 10 That man’s line shall be known in Israel as The Family of the Unsandaled." Your ignorance of scripture demonstrates itself yet again. And most sickeningly, you choose to remain ignorant of scripture as a means for bearing false witness against it. You simply do not care about fact to any degree. Basic premise of marriage of the subject material and the objection to the Inaugral Pride Fest...one MAN, one WOMAN, one FLESH. You STILL crack me up!
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Serenity Now
Cookeville, TN
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Wow actually I was talking about the comments Twocentsworth wrote not you. Wow "superior"...lol zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text> I am your superior. Self-esteem does not enter the issue, I do not let emotion enter into debate. I do not try to "sound smarter", I merely am smarter. It requires no expendature of effort as it is how things are. I note you did not actually have any rebuttal to my argument, merely ad hominem.
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two cents
Pikeville, TN
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Serenity Now wrote: Dont try talking to this person. They need prayers, because it is obvious from the words they chose that they feel superior. Most of the time people who try to sound smarter than you have very low self-esteem and prefer to point out what is wrong with others. Maybe they are without sin and thats why they cast so many stones. <quoted text> Is your post not a little judgmental? You probably shouldn't post how "judging" (when what most of us are actually doing is disagreeing) is so wrong if you're going to turn around and do the same thing. And also, I am guilty of as much sin as the next person. But I changed my ways long ago. And if you were such a "Christian" yourself, you would know that homosexuality is a sin and you wouldn't be standing behind it defending it on this thread.
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wondering
Cookeville, TN
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zyzzyx wrote: <quoted text> I am your superior. Self-esteem does not enter the issue, I do not let emotion enter into debate. I do not try to "sound smarter", I merely am smarter. It requires no expendature of effort as it is how things are. I note you did not actually have any rebuttal to my argument, merely ad hominem. The idiot who responds to his own posts..under another name...claims he is a superior. Please elborate. I would find that more to be characteristic of a coward. Would you not agree?
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quit wondering
Cookeville, TN
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Copied this from another forum. It is brilliant and so true. Love it.... Top 5 Signs that YOU are a Dogmatic, Hypocritical Christian Religious Fanatic:. 5. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You blindly follow your religious leaders (i.e. Preachers, Pope, Priests, Imans, etc.), as if they were God, never questioning their greed, lies, statements and actions, and You are INCAPABLE of thinking, actions, and using sound logic, reason, science, and intelligence to arrive at a conclusion, without injecting religion into an issue...... 4. You would be screaming from the rooftops in OPPOSITION if Muslim Koran Sharia Law (or another religion different from your own) was imposed upon everyone and YOU were denied Equal Rights if you did NOT abide by Muslim Law, but you think it is OK to impose Christian Bible Laws on everyone to DENY OTHERS Equal Rights if they do NOT abide by Christian Bible Law. You say the Bible is the ‘Holy Word Of God’ and must be followed for verses/interpretations that support your PERSONAL position on a subject, but IGNORE the Bible when passages do not support your positions, and you have no respect for freedom of and from religion and Separation of Church and State..... 3. You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. You also laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky..... 2- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing how God slaughtered the babies of Egypt in "Exodus", ordering of ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!.. 1. You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.
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zyzzyx
Cookeville, TN
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quit wondering wrote: Copied this from another forum. It is brilliant and so true. Love it.... Top 5 Signs that YOU are a Dogmatic, Hypocritical Christian Religious Fanatic:. 5. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You blindly follow your religious leaders (i.e. Preachers, Pope, Priests, Imans, etc.), as if they were God, never questioning their greed, lies, statements and actions, and You are INCAPABLE of thinking, actions, and using sound logic, reason, science, and intelligence to arrive at a conclusion, without injecting religion into an issue...... 4. You would be screaming from the rooftops in OPPOSITION if Muslim Koran Sharia Law (or another religion different from your own) was imposed upon everyone and YOU were denied Equal Rights if you did NOT abide by Muslim Law, but you think it is OK to impose Christian Bible Laws on everyone to DENY OTHERS Equal Rights if they do NOT abide by Christian Bible Law. You say the Bible is the ‘Holy Word Of God’ and must be followed for verses/interpretations that support your PERSONAL position on a subject, but IGNORE the Bible when passages do not support your positions, and you have no respect for freedom of and from religion and Separation of Church and State..... 3. You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. You also laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky..... 2- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing how God slaughtered the babies of Egypt in "Exodus", ordering of ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!.. 1. You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian. spam
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some facts for the moron
Cookeville, TN
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LOL You are a moron wrote: <quoted text> Oh and before you start mentioning AIDS and HIV, you better check your facts. More straight people have it than gay people. according to the Center for Disease Control, 71 percent of those in the U.S. infected with HIV/AIDS were “Men who have sex with men” http://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-...
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hoping
Concord, NC
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They never said anything about aids lol.. I had a friend that had aids he was in his sixty or seventies he was gay but also one of the sweetest whole hearted people I ever knew. I do believe god opened the gates for him. As for all this arguing the only thing I thought was wrong was having a drag show.. if its supposed to be a family friendly environment then that shouldn't have happened. I did find it very funny ..someone told me that there were no protestors lol after all the bitching they did and saying things about pickets and protest and no one did haha that's awesome. People have a right to live the way they want ..I say let them have a party every weekend if they want. Live and let live. LOL You are a moron wrote: <quoted text> There is no way in HELL you could have driven by and seen all the people...the event was held by the stage behind the library. For those of you who have not been there.... the stage is behind the library (road view mostly blocked) the police station and drama center block a great portion of the view from the side where Exotic Tropicals is located, and for the side where the parking lot for the park is (it is blocked by a few more businesses). Furthermore, the stage is down below the level of the street since the park terraced the area in front to make room for people to sit. So explain to me how you "drove by" and saw anything???? Jesus you people need to get a life and get over it. Gay people are a part of society and are not going anywhere. Once you realize being gay is not a disease that is contagious you might be able to sleep better at night. I know myself and probably every other gay person in the country does not loose sleep over the fact we are gay. Oh and before you start mentioning AIDS and HIV, you better check your facts. More straight people have it than gay people.
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two cents
Pikeville, TN
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quit wondering wrote: Copied this from another forum. It is brilliant and so true. Love it.... Top 5 Signs that YOU are a Dogmatic, Hypocritical Christian Religious Fanatic:. 5. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You blindly follow your religious leaders (i.e. Preachers, Pope, Priests, Imans, etc.), as if they were God, never questioning their greed, lies, statements and actions, and You are INCAPABLE of thinking, actions, and using sound logic, reason, science, and intelligence to arrive at a conclusion, without injecting religion into an issue...... 4. You would be screaming from the rooftops in OPPOSITION if Muslim Koran Sharia Law (or another religion different from your own) was imposed upon everyone and YOU were denied Equal Rights if you did NOT abide by Muslim Law, but you think it is OK to impose Christian Bible Laws on everyone to DENY OTHERS Equal Rights if they do NOT abide by Christian Bible Law. You say the Bible is the ‘Holy Word Of God’ and must be followed for verses/interpretations that support your PERSONAL position on a subject, but IGNORE the Bible when passages do not support your positions, and you have no respect for freedom of and from religion and Separation of Church and State..... 3. You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. You also laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky..... 2- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing how God slaughtered the babies of Egypt in "Exodus", ordering of ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!.. 1. You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian. HOW RETARDED!! That's all I have to say about that.
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hoping
Concord, NC
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I'm all for equal rights some people are acting so stupid and seem to like murders more than homosexuals. But I'm straight and a Christian but these days I don't think God is going to send anyone to hell for liking the same sex if that was the case we would all be going for not following the bible word for word ..that us why Jesus died on the cross ..but u also believe that knowing about the bible is not as important as having faith and love in your heart. What good is all the knowledge in the world if you don't use it? People preach and preach but font apply those things they learn in their lives. My point - I think God would rather you be a good living person with faith and being a caring person rather than knowing everything about the bible but not living it.. which is what most the people on here seem to be doing for wanting to banish every homosexual to the ends of the earth, they are just people not monsters. But these crazed so called Christians give all of us a bad name for acting that way. quit wondering wrote: Copied this from another forum. It is brilliant and so true. Love it.... Top 5 Signs that YOU are a Dogmatic, Hypocritical Christian Religious Fanatic:. 5. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. You blindly follow your religious leaders (i.e. Preachers, Pope, Priests, Imans, etc.), as if they were God, never questioning their greed, lies, statements and actions, and You are INCAPABLE of thinking, actions, and using sound logic, reason, science, and intelligence to arrive at a conclusion, without injecting religion into an issue...... 4. You would be screaming from the rooftops in OPPOSITION if Muslim Koran Sharia Law (or another religion different from your own) was imposed upon everyone and YOU were denied Equal Rights if you did NOT abide by Muslim Law, but you think it is OK to impose Christian Bible Laws on everyone to DENY OTHERS Equal Rights if they do NOT abide by Christian Bible Law. You say the Bible is the ‘Holy Word Of God’ and must be followed for verses/interpretations that support your PERSONAL position on a subject, but IGNORE the Bible when passages do not support your positions, and you have no respect for freedom of and from religion and Separation of Church and State..... 3. You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. You also laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky..... 2- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don`t even flinch when hearing how God slaughtered the babies of Egypt in "Exodus", ordering of ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!.. 1. You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.
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