Three held in meth-related killing in Spokane County in 2005

Washington does not have Grandparents rights they already told me that.I guess my next step would be S/S Dept.My Babies are all we have left of Sebastian she claims to want to put her life with Sebastian behind her , well all thats good she could go on with her life how ever she wants but my Babies will always be apart of us whewther she likes it or not right.

Hey Ginger, I looked and saw that they arrested David Collins (finally) only for 2 counts kidnapping, and I also noticed that Hristco hasnt had any action on his WA Court and his trial is not that far away, I wonder if he will show??

Ginger wrote:

Washington does not have Grandparents rights they already told me that.I guess my next step would be S/S Dept.My Babies are all we have left of Sebastian she claims to want to put her life with Sebastian behind her , well all thats good she could go on with her life how ever she wants but my Babies will always be apart of us whewther she likes it or not right.

Maybe when all this blows over she will come around,I would think Washington,and all states would have some kind of visitation for Grandparents if it comes down to that.

A lot of people are learning more and more about this girl,they say beware of the wolf in sheeps clothing. She used this family for what she wanted, and when she got caught for stealing drugs in spokane and the family found out she turned on them. I guess you could say she' guilty in a lot more ways than they think, here in WA. drugies know alot more about each other than the law does. I do know she visited Sebastian when he was in jail and even when he got out.Does anyone else know anything more on this.

Jeannie,I'm not sure if u got my reply,I never expected my neices mother finding an telling her about this forum she's to young and emotional an didn't need to see all this info. If u still wish to exchange info u can reach me on yahoo at redsmith86, no more public talk.Sorry

I know Carlton, he made a mess of my family with his poisen, when is he going to trial?

NEW court date is 11/03/08, Never met him,but another family member did and his life is destroyed because of his poison.

DAVID COLLINS pled guilty 5/9/08 and was sentenced to 81 MONTHS (6-3/4years). (From the paperwork I read), the time kinda fits his part in the crime against Sebastian.

Rob Browns next trial date is 8/18/08.

hi Ginger! i am 13 years old, and i am really interested in this kind of stuff. i cant belive people actaully do these kinds of things! its CRAZY!!!!

Hi Ginger,
Crazy is the right word for it. Take if from someone who knows, stay away from these people and make the most of your life. Anyone who gets involved in this shit looses minimum a few years of there life, their friends and sometimes their family. The stuff that these people are involved in is not interesting it is just plain f"£%ed up.

i nust admitt i hadnt relized how popular yall have made me. its amazing to me how u choose to put blame on others but then again thats what u have been doing since the day sebastian was born havnt you. im glad u have found support from someone who doesnt really know u or h0e u work. there are many things i can say i my defense but in reality i answer to no one but god. but i will say this for you all who "know who u are" get a life...as far as im concerned you are digging yourself in a big hole. i choose not to have people in and out of my childrens lives whenver they feel like being there. they have been thru enough and as there mother it is my job to protect them and will do so untill they are old enough to make apropriate responsible decisions on there own. as far as letting family members know about his issues yall were aware...but chose to look the other way untill it was to late. but once again whoe is jeannie and once again a victim. you play that role so well when really its not about you. i personaly chose not to speak with you because you want to dwell in this mess and i refuse to have those memories of him. anyways i definatly dont believe im an angel...lol..that crazy talk...i do however learn from my mistakes and continue to learn and grow and live and love with MY children. once again thanks for all the popularity :)

You wrote this about 1:00am-SOBER UP AND LEARN HOW TO TYPE AND SPELL!! Feeling happy about being so called popular this way is truly disgusting Analisa Esquibel-get clean/sober for your kids!

lol.....your dumb....whos the sick one? taking pleasure in someone elses pain and loss....get a life....when u live it we will talk

Your definately dumb and NOT "the one" I take No pleasure in this crime/murder, a family member was involved in, many good innocent families are devistated & shocked that one of their own could be involved in Meth/Murder.
If anyone is taking pleasure in this matter its you and your previous comments show that!(saying how popular u feel--Coldhearted piece of trash)

GOD BLESS SEBASTIAN'S GRANDMOTHER+FAMILY+KIDS!!!

im sorry you feel so badly about yourself that you need to bash me. you know nothing about who i am what iv been through nor of whats happening now.

Lisa this not about u n it has never been about me. this whole mess u made u did on ur own as for the kids I know u love them so do we.what I don't understand is why u turned against all of us Sebastians family all we ever did was try 2 help u. We gave u $ when u said u needed it 4 the kids and had a place for u and the kids 2 live when u were ready 2 come down u know this 2 b true u said u needed 2 take care of some business before u n the kids could come. But u were lying 2 us all the time the $ we sent u was for ur drugs n not 4 the kids.You were willing 2 have the kids brought down here 2 stay for good at one time with us n this is also true so what happened. I as well as Sebastians brother n sister are very hurt by what u have done n said.

To redsmith86 I tried to acess you like u said but was unable 2. So if u can conact me ok

Ginger its an email address I made up instead of making certain comments in public redsmith86@yahoo.com