“Don't Be So”

Since: May 12

Obtuse

#44 May 17, 2012
Why so obtuse?
communication

United States

#45 Jul 25, 2012
Chuchris wrote:
Ok I completely agree with these BS laws. I admit I am 2 or 3k behind. I finally started a great job a few months ago. My job required an F endorsment. I was having my wages garnished and evrything was going great under the circumstances. When I go to apply for my F endorsement I find out my drivers license had been suspended. I just lost my job cause of it and I go to court tomorrow. Im praying they dont throw me in jail. Im trying the best I can and my work said I can get my job back when I obtain a valid TN drivers license. Any advice?
communicate with people if the court had known you were without a job they could not legally suspend your license I know this cause my ex has used it in court carry documentation of your job requiring dl they may reinstate and order an income withholding hope you got it in writing when they said you could have your job back cause a business will screw you over faster than a woman will.
Meg

United States

#46 Aug 3, 2012
I have a 4 yr old daughter and she was in my custody for 3 1/2 yrs and I never took the father to court or make him pay child support just help with diapers clothes food etc he got married soon after soon after I got married aswell he told me he was gonna take me to court bc I got married I got a returned letter from the court bc I had moved I had to pick it up from the post office I had missed the court date by 2 days when went got to court I has proof of the mistake and he still got granted full custody me and my husband passed hair drug tests and my ex had warrants all over the nation and for some reason this man got custody of a little girl I pay 275 a month and my w2 proved that I only make 12000 a yr I have court on we'd bc Im having trouble paying the full amount every month. So guys ur not the only ones getting screwed there r some women out there not after ur wallets some us just want a normal life and a good guy to come home to. And we all wish we would have never met r exs we wish we would have just kept walking but just love that kid and when they get old enough they will know what mommy did or daddy
Meg

United States

#47 Aug 3, 2012
MakeSense wrote:
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wbc cult waco.
Wow u sound just like my husbands ex buying new shocks 100 dollar jeans new car while her daughter is wearing the same old flip flops I love her more I'm the one buying her daughter new shoes while we can't even pay our rent while ur out there trying to screw somebody else with ur money maker and we all know with what
Steve Arizona

Mesa, AZ

#48 Aug 14, 2012
In the last 2 years I have broken my left femur twice & had 7 surgeries. Up until these accidents which were a fluke, I was current on my child support. I have been off work for two and a half years and have my ex breathing down my neck with a contempt petition to lock me up. I'm lucky I'm alive after what happened to me, or maybe unlucky. At any rate, the legal system that locks men or women up for being behind on child support for losing their job, or getting injured has got to change. My exwife was even trying to get my new wife to pay the back child support, and even lied in the court documents. Surprise surprise Dorothy, Post Numptial, you get nothing, the Judge sympathisis with me, and no interest due. It helps to have 2 bars, and 14 screws in my leg, but thank you God for being merciful to me. I should be back to work in my own business soon, but I think I will have the business in my wifes name and pay myself shit. Good luck single fathers, what a challange this has been.
hey steve fishback

Russell Springs, KY

#49 Aug 28, 2012
Steve Arizona wrote:
In the last 2 years I have broken my left femur twice & had 7 surgeries. Up until these accidents which were a fluke, I was current on my child support. I have been off work for two and a half years and have my ex breathing down my neck with a contempt petition to lock me up. I'm lucky I'm alive after what happened to me, or maybe unlucky. At any rate, the legal system that locks men or women up for being behind on child support for losing their job, or getting injured has got to change. My exwife was even trying to get my new wife to pay the back child support, and even lied in the court documents. Surprise surprise Dorothy, Post Numptial, you get nothing, the Judge sympathisis with me, and no interest due. It helps to have 2 bars, and 14 screws in my leg, but thank you God for being merciful to me. I should be back to work in my own business soon, but I think I will have the business in my wifes name and pay myself shit. Good luck single fathers, what a challange this has been.
is this you? know way? this is a old friend.
MYH

Kansas City, MO

#50 Sep 13, 2012
I have 2 kids and i pay what i owe every check gladly. So hears is some wisdom for all you men this is what the judge told me we dont care where the money comes from or how you get it but it needs to be paid. So dont cry about i gonna go to jail. just pay it some my dad told me 1 kid take all you got 10 kids take all you got.

cry cry have have to pay 66.00 a week out of a 100 check 44 with a budget is plenty trust i know even with paying CS i lived on 450 a mo hear in kansas so plz stop crying.

like a real man if it comes down to me eating or my kids you can bet its my kids everytime my ex and i have a good relationship but her check covers rent and other bill and the CS is their food money
The Purple Shadow

United States

#51 Sep 15, 2012
Disgruntled Dad wrote:
Yeah I agree, child support is a complete scam. If you get raped and they catch the person, they get in trouble, but If the government rape us or our exes rape us, then they get a pat on the back and good job, enjoy screwing that person for the next 18 years or so.
I hate how child support is handled. They say it's all about the children, but if they throw the dad in jail for non payment, how is that helping the children? The ex says, one of 2 things.
If she is vindictive like mine, Oh daddy doesn't want to see you this week. Or, Your dads in jail for not paying for you. Either way, the kids lose out, it doesn't help them in any way, it just lines the pockets of the Government so they can spend more money on stupid pointless worthless shit.
I agree, pay for your child, but don't make the child support so high that the other person could go to jail if he don't pay. And I say he, because if women owe child support, the punishment is less severe, they get treated as if, Oh, you can't pay it, well that's okay you tried, just try and keep up. Oh you want us to lower it for you? Sure, let's go ahead and lower it.
Women want equality, so let's give it to them. If they can't pay child support either, let them go to jail. I would love to see my ex TRY and get a job, and out of that job pay the same as I make $300 a month.
My last years wages were just under $2400, no no no that's not a Mis-spell, that is Two Thousand, Four Hundred dollars for the whole year. I had a problem where I couldn't work because of immigration, but my child support stayed the same as if I was making $22,000
It was worked out that my child support should be $3900. Oh that's okay, that's only over 100% of my pay. Forget about that I have my DD 40% of the time, and that she also needs to eat when she comes over. So I get behind buy about $400, and they hold me in contempt of court. The judge is a complete waste of inbred sperm, and so is my ex, maybe they are related, I dunno.
But this whole Child Support thing is complete BS. If you were to lose your job, and you were still married, then you're not going to give your children $300 worth of shit per month. How can this be fair??
Well it's not. Like I said, it's just lining the pockets of those involved and raping the Non Custodial Parent.
Nice going so called Justice System
finally someone who gets it. I hate our legal system and its employee's judges, cops, lawyers, prosecuters....ect ect, this country is no longer for, of or by the people...we need a revolution
The Purple Shadow

United States

#52 Sep 15, 2012
Meg wrote:
I have a 4 yr old daughter and she was in my custody for 3 1/2 yrs and I never took the father to court or make him pay child support just help with diapers clothes food etc he got married soon after soon after I got married aswell he told me he was gonna take me to court bc I got married I got a returned letter from the court bc I had moved I had to pick it up from the post office I had missed the court date by 2 days when went got to court I has proof of the mistake and he still got granted full custody me and my husband passed hair drug tests and my ex had warrants all over the nation and for some reason this man got custody of a little girl I pay 275 a month and my w2 proved that I only make 12000 a yr I have court on we'd bc Im having trouble paying the full amount every month. So guys ur not the only ones getting screwed there r some women out there not after ur wallets some us just want a normal life and a good guy to come home to. And we all wish we would have never met r exs we wish we would have just kept walking but just love that kid and when they get old enough they will know what mommy did or daddy
i know women get done wrong to and i feel for you....time for a revolution
craber

Frisco, TX

#53 Sep 17, 2012
I fish for a living I make 28k a year my taxes are around 6k im remarried I have a son and one on the way I have a house note of 400 a month but it takes me 400 a month in child support to stay out of jail I havent seen my son in 3 years judge told me seeing my child is not important I got pissed an told the judge I will never send any money until I see my son she gave me 30 days I laughed I spent 7 yrs in the army a jail cell is a vacation for me I killed for this country and bled for it and they spit on me im ready for civil war time to take our country bak im tiered of talking so I joined the mississippi militia i will never give up my freedom nor shall it be taken god have mercy on my enemies I have none left!
I got raped to

Goose Creek, SC

#54 Oct 12, 2012
tired Dad wrote:
I was making 60,000 a year when divorced. I lost my job and have applied for over a 100 more since. Because I was let go due to a point system after switching shifts, I'm now on UI and get 250 per week and am still expected to pay 1200 a month for my son. I am a month and a half behind and now have to go to court in 5 days for what her lawyer calls ( refusal to pay ). BS I can't pay what I don't have. I was dumb for not having a lawyer in the first place, was told we were gonna be fair. Married 3 yrs and ordered to pay 800 in child support for my 3 yr old and 400 in alimony. She is now making money as a manager and I had him 70% of the time up till last month when she put him in an expensive daycare ( but she's broke and I'm sure this was advised by her lawyer) in order to screw me. Its hard tryin to be fair and continue to get raped for wanting what's best for my son. I never mentioned that she cheated the first yr of marriage, cause of me being at work 7 days a week to keep the 1000 a month for a lease to own home, which she is still trying to keep, even though she found out she get a loan to buy. I have over 10,000 in escrow that the owner will now just keep. I wander if I'm goin to jail. I know my son loves me and i can't pay my bills with the little I have, but I'm sure I'm goin to get raped a second time, since I hit hard times. Heartless women and screwed up laws or the people governing them. Also never mentioned she smokes weed. Is it time to play dirty, something I was trying to avoid, just tired of the lies and BS.
Tired Dad:
I totally understand what your going through. I dont knoe if your going to jail, but I just went to court the other day, well let me reiterate, I went to the courth house but a DSS Rep pulled us into a room, and got some information from the both of us and came up with some figures I had to pay. My salary got almost cut in half because I got laid off from my job. I went from making about 92,000 a year to 47,000 a year. I applied for the reduction and it turned out to be a waste of time. They didnt reduce anything. My EX was cheating on my, she left me, and I am the one stuck paying. We have two beautiful kids together, and I wouldnt change a thing with them. The only thing I would and am going to change is the custody situation, she has sole custody because my job required me to travel. Now I am off the road and I am able to spend more time with my kids. The Child support I am paying now is 1000 a month, and with the salary decrease I am forced to pay the same. They didnt decrease it at all. Now I am looking at bankruptcy. In a way this may be a good thing for me. i can wipe the slate clean and start a new life.
Jay

South Lyon, MI

#55 Oct 29, 2012
Well lets see i will start with the person that said get a job loser ... I have 2 children with my ex wife. I was working in road construction and bringing home $2000 a week.. well we split and at that time i lost my job.Long story sort i got another job got $10.00 an hours and they still based my child support off the $22.00 an hour job even after having letterhead from the new job in court with me and that went on for 6 years. I had no clue on what i could do because the courts WONT tell you anything and they will tell you that if you ask them. But let me add this say you are working a job for $7 an hour and go to a better job say $17 an hour they dont call and tell you oh we are raising your child support they just do it. So why doesn't that work both ways ?? because they want more money out of you for filing fee's .... yeah $65 every time you file. I went to prison for 18 months over that .. Well I get home and now i want to see my children right ? NO not going to happen because their mother wont let me so i file papers about that and went to court 5 times over it and now i have to jump through hoops ? because she refused my rights as a father for so long that the courts side with her? Telling me that i have to do this this and that ? Ummmmm no see i filed the papers because she is breaking the law by not letting me see them. In the state of Michigan they CAN NOT refuse a father the right to see and spend time with his children UNLESS they find him unfit. So now what do i do ? Jump through their hoops like a puppet or sue the shit out of the county? For my pain and suffering as well as lost wages for going to court ? What is LAW if the courts cant even follow them ? They dont mind spending YOUR TAX DOLLARS .... BUT YOU SHOULD MIND ... It cost the state $32,000 a year to house a prisoner and im not sure how much it cost the county jail but im sure its not cheap either. SO if friend of the court is so worried about the CHILDREN why not take that $32,000 and apply it to the child or children ? BECAUSE they could care less its their way or the highway..... More people should be fighting the LAW .... Friend of the court is not about the children they are about keeping the FAMILY FEUD going because it lines their pockets .. Enough said
billy

Haines City, FL

#56 Nov 17, 2012
hello i have been ordered to pay $300.00 a month for dhild support.i got ssi until i was 18 so now i am awaiting a ssi hearing.but today i went to jail for non payment.i cant work so how do i get out of jail?
Eggsalad

United States

#57 Nov 28, 2012
WARLOCK wrote:
I know. What can be done to change these laws is the real question.
Vote out some of the idiots who vote fof these stupid laws.Yes take guys boat extra cars etc.But to misuse courts as a,debters coutt for these crap?? It violates his rights? Doesnt it? Bunch of old fuckers screwed this country up with bad laws.Wake up.Some of these women use this as a excuse not to work lay around and get fat.They use their kids.Not all But most of them do.They play out this scam misuse welfare.Sign the rights to collect child support from other person.Whole dam thing stinks its turned into big business.Costs taxpayers money in long run too.Systems messed up.These crooked County Attorneys and Judges all are in bed together.IVE CALLED THEM BY NAME MANY TIMES.Most will screw most men over in court.The big quote they hide behind is the law is the law.Well I say look ay the assholes I get to vote for.Next time I vote For none of the above.Vote third party maybe dum fuckers will wake up.we are all getting screwed on taxes gas our jobs.unemployment is up.But some of these guys dont have a drivers lic.cause system stole their right to drive.We all no you cant get to work very easy with out a car or drrivers lic.Like I said lets clean this bullshit up.Takes two to have a child.But only one had to pay??
mom of 3

Lexington, SC

#58 Dec 3, 2012
reading these post make me sick (im sure they r from all men) child support needs to be made not because (u cant work) or (maybe u dont want to work) or u make payments when ever u feel like which in my case over 3 years of not recieving anything - after six months in jail now receiving payments if u want to be a deadbeat i say do it in jail (think my ex got the hint) lol
pay up

Cumberland, KY

#59 Dec 16, 2012
none of ur business wrote:
Get a job losers, and take care of ur kids.
if you have the kids.stop bitching and pay to raise them.the child suport should be more than what it is.it takes money to raise a kid.not a 100.00 or 300.00 or even 500.00 a month.they have to have a place to live,clothes,food,things for school,doctor visits.ever dine the child gets from the state.should have to be paid back by the dad or the mother what ever one dont keep the kid.you had the kid not the state.both mon and dad should be out the same money each month.if you can pay to raise them your self.done have them.
david black

Mertzon, TX

#60 Dec 24, 2012
if someone takes a kid and refuses to let you see them until you give them money, what is that called? holding them for ransom, correct? so why is it okay for them to say you cant see your kid until you pay me money
david black

Mertzon, TX

#61 Dec 24, 2012
pay up wrote:
<quoted text>if you have the kids.stop bitching and pay to raise them.the child suport should be more than what it is.it takes money to raise a kid.not a 100.00 or 300.00 or even 500.00 a month.they have to have a place to live,clothes,food,things for school,doctor visits.ever dine the child gets from the state.should have to be paid back by the dad or the mother what ever one dont keep the kid.you had the kid not the state.both mon and dad should be out the same money each month.if you can pay to raise them your self.done have them.
i think if you cant afford to keep a place to live, clothes,food, things for school, doctor visits then you probably dont need to raise the kid because you are uncapable. not bleed the money from your ex. there are so many girls out there that look at having a kid as a paycheck.... if they cant make it by themselves then they dont need to be trying to make it with a kid.... right?
Deaconblue

Oak Ridge, TN

#62 Jan 9, 2013
It's not about whether or not you are paying child support or mommy support. The bottom line and the important thing is that you are doing your part financially to support your kids. There are other options to paying child support. How many of those who pay child support would take 100% responsibility for 6 months at a time every year. In lieu of paying child support?? Then why aren't you??!!! That means 6 months of I can't go out tonight girl/boyfriend I don't have a baby sitter. Sorry boss I gotta get home I have the kids till June. What?! you pooped yourself again ?!! It's 3 am I gotta go to work and now instead I'm headed to the doctors office??!! No Christmas party for me at the office I'm at home with the kids (and I'm 25 and single). I'd love a Maserati but I need a mini-van for the kids! As a single father I paid child support for 3 years ($1485.00 a month ...40% of my gross pay). I watched my kids go without far too long,but I paid every month none the less! My ex and I ,after all had ,split because my income couldn't keep up with her irresponsible and selfish spending habits. So I went to court to fight it and convinced the judge that we should do 6months/6months,she didn't help me on my time I don't help her on her's!. He agreed! It wasn't easy,I had to get their medical records where she hadn't been purchasing their meds or paying off what the insurance didn't pay. I had to show that she was partying (good friends are often happy to become P.I's)leaving the kids at home alone! Reports from neighbors on how she was constantly borrowing items /money,electric to run her frig. because the lights had been turned off again,evictions,vehicle repo's etc! It was a lot of leg work,paperwork and I did it by researching the web on the laws,asking a lot of people a lot of questions, sometimes misrepresenting myself to people to get info. I did it all without a lawyer,but not without help from family,friends and the occasional stranger. In the end,it put me in a very good position to say "you're still not being a responsible parent when they are on your time I want full custody!",lets go to court!One of the big things judges looks at is bonding.If you see your kids every other weekend and moms there 24/7 the greater bond is with mom.Your not getting custody unless shes a hooker and your a preacher and even then it's questionable!. However:equalize the time and it can go to the benefit of the more responsible parent. In the end if your ex is living in the same house month in month out year after year. If she isn't asking for more money for clothes,food etc if she's not constantly losing her job,car etc. If your kids are well fed,cared for and so forth. Then shut up your bitchin and be thankful.Whether she parties on your dime or not ,shes paying the bills that are caring for your kids.If your not willing to put in the effort or leg work and sacrifice to prove you'd be the better parent.Then they don't need to live with you anyways you won't be a good parent. Just another pissed off dad not wanting to give up your cash.So pay your child support,trust me it doesn't cover all the costs of caring for a child/children....ever. You helped bring them into this world ,they deserve your dedication,commitment and support.Single parenting is the hardest thing I've ever done right!
Deaconblue

Oak Ridge, TN

#63 Jan 9, 2013
mom of 3 wrote:
reading these post make me sick (im sure they r from all men) child support needs to be made not because (u cant work) or (maybe u dont want to work) or u make payments when ever u feel like which in my case over 3 years of not recieving anything - after six months in jail now receiving payments if u want to be a deadbeat i say do it in jail (think my ex got the hint) lol
While you may be right that they are all men that are bitchin. It's not like there aren't dead beat moms. It took me 5 years to get custody of my kids. I went from paying child support ,to convincing the judge the money was not making it to the benefit of the kids.So we went to no support 6 months for each of us. Then to, me gaining custody because after the support went away she couldn't even afford them for 6 months on her own.After two years of insisting she pay child support (she literally sent the courts $5 once and that was it) A warrant was issued for her arrest today for willful contempt of court (thank you judge Gail). So it's not just guys that do it,often women DO see kids as a paycheck. As a matter of fact,women for hundreds of years. Have taught their daughters to "trap a man" with pregnancy! Now they just "trap a man's paycheck" instead.....Not all men/women do these ignorant things to their children,but an unfortunately large amount do!

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