'Epic' Colo. wildfire displaces 32,000

Jun 27, 2012 Full story: Click2Houston 28

Firefighters again will battle inferno-like conditions on Wednesday as they try to tame an explosive wildfire that has already chased some 32,000 residents from their homes near Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Full Story
First Prev
of 2
Next Last
Mary Salisbiry

Gainesville, TX

#1 Jun 27, 2012
Please help, my family has had to evacuate they live in the Adams Dr. Area.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#2 Jun 28, 2012
Many of those who have lost their homes sided with Big Government's efforts to suffer unspeakable harassment and to impose unconscionable taxes on decent hardworking women and men who enjoy the simple worker *("middle")* class pleasure of treating themselves to an occasional tobacco product. They are not very nice people. Before we extend our sympathy - as well as our hard earned taxpayer money - to those who have lost their homes, let us first determine which side they are on.

Ronald
cowgirl

Morrison, IL

#3 Jun 28, 2012
Are you out of your mind Ronald? This person is asking for compassion and you lip off on some conservative blah blah. Don't people like you ever CARE about others!?
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#4 Jun 28, 2012
cowgirl wrote:
Are you out of your mind Ronald? This person is asking for compassion and you lip off on some conservative blah blah. Don't people like you ever CARE about others!?
cowgirl.

What are you talking about? Big Government has unremittingly attacked the many millions of decent taxpaying worker *("middle")* class women and men who enjoy the simple worker class pleasure of using an occasional tobacco product. Big Government has engaged in this reprehensible conduct for more years than decent hard working tobacco users care to relate. I cannot recall any compassion being extended by the anti-decent-tobacco-user crowd. In fact, the scurrilous evil deed has been done with their enthusiastic support.

Is it too much to publicly expose which of the home owners whose houses burned to the ground are among them? Why shouldn't supporters of this outrageous Government behavior be identified prior to a determination being made as to whom taxpayer funded or other aid should be given? Why shouldn't overburdened taxpayers help the many compassionate non-smokers of good-will with taxpayer funded or other assistance? This question is especially pertinent when one considers these tough economic times, times when overburdened taxpayers have increasingly limited resources.

Why should the greedy uncompassionate anti-smoker crowd be entitled to "slip in under the radar" *(so to speak)* to get taxpayer funded or other assistance? Perhaps I have missed something, but why is it uncompassionate to ask those needing help to declare which side they are on?

Ronald
front street

Chillicothe, MO

#5 Jun 28, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>cowgirl.

What are you talking about? Big Government has unremittingly attacked the many millions of decent taxpaying worker *("middle")* class women and men who enjoy the simple worker class pleasure of using an occasional tobacco product. Big Government has engaged in this reprehensible conduct for more years than decent hard working tobacco users care to relate. I cannot recall any compassion being extended by the anti-decent-tobacco-user crowd. In fact, the scurrilous evil deed has been done with their enthusiastic support.

Is it too much to publicly expose which of the home owners whose houses burned to the ground are among them? Why shouldn't supporters of this outrageous Government behavior be identified prior to a determination being made as to whom taxpayer funded or other aid should be given? Why shouldn't overburdened taxpayers help the many compassionate non-smokers of good-will with taxpayer funded or other assistance? This question is especially pertinent when one considers these tough economic times, times when overburdened taxpayers have increasingly limited resources.

Why should the greedy uncompassionate anti-smoker crowd be entitled to "slip in under the radar" *(so to speak)* to get taxpayer funded or other assistance? Perhaps I have missed something, but why is it uncompassionate to ask those needing help to declare which side they are on?

Ronald
dude u are an idiot !!! Just sayin
unreal

Waterloo, IL

#6 Jun 28, 2012
It' obvious that'Ronald' doesn't care for anyone or anything but himself 'cowgirl'. An embarrassment to the American ways of compassion and help. He may be the truest conservative that I have read yet. A true embarrassment to our country. Sad little peson.
I hope that you find your family safe Mary Salisbiry.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#7 Jun 28, 2012
unreal wrote:
It' obvious that'Ronald' doesn't care for anyone or anything but himself 'cowgirl'. An embarrassment to the American ways of compassion and help. He may be the truest conservative that I have read yet. A true embarrassment to our country. Sad little peson.
I hope that you find your family safe Mary Salisbiry.
unreal

Oh. I see. "The American way of compassion" does NOT extend to the many decent hard working women and men who partake in the simple worker *("middle")* class pleasure of enjoying an occasional cigarette or cigar. Well, I hope their "compassionate" abusers enjoy the secondhand smoke of their burning homes.

Ronald
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#8 Jun 28, 2012
front street wrote:
<quoted text>
dude u are an idiot !!! Just sayin
front street.

Yes. I agree. It's a moot point. The war against the many decent women and men who enjoy the simple pleasure of an occasional cigarette or cigar is a battle lost. Now, Big Government is going after the non-smokers who eat foodstuffs containing sugar, those who season their foods with salt, the beverage drinkers, and eventually, the toilet paper users. I am sure Big Government can rouse tiny groups - but very noisy groups - to hysterically demand Big Government take ACTION on every one of these issues, and more.

Ronald

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#9 Jul 1, 2012
Colorado Springs is very right wing. Why is it asking for help from the federal government at all?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#10 Jul 1, 2012
"It's a crisis, to be sure. But in this politically conservative, tax-averse town, it's also something of an experiment. After the impending cuts were announced in fall 2009, the city put a property tax increase on the November ballot. The measure was soundly defeated. Thanks to Colorado Springs' Taxpayer Bill of Rights (TABOR), which actually predates the state of Colorado's TABOR by a year, any proposed tax increase must be voted on by the citizens. With their vote, residents made it clear they'd rather suffer service cuts than see their taxes raised."

governing.com

No, they would rather the rest of us pay their bills for them. This is typical Republiscum behavior.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#11 Jul 2, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
"It's a crisis, to be sure. But in this politically conservative, tax-averse town, it's also something of an experiment. After the impending cuts were announced in fall 2009, the city put a property tax increase on the November ballot. The measure was soundly defeated. Thanks to Colorado Springs' Taxpayer Bill of Rights (TABOR), which actually predates the state of Colorado's TABOR by a year, any proposed tax increase must be voted on by the citizens. With their vote, residents made it clear they'd rather suffer service cuts than see their taxes raised."
governing.com
No, they would rather the rest of us pay their bills for them. This is typical Republiscum behavior.
OregonSUX.

Until Big Government began going after the food eaters who enjoy eating foods that contain sugar, and going after those who season their foul tasting "Government approved" food with salt, the beverage drinkers, and the majority of Californians who use toilet paper, the majority of Californians who are dependent on the minority of Californians who pay taxes could be relied on to vote for any loony tax on the "democratic" ballot, under the theory that "the other guy" would be paying the tax. Most often, the State's political ruling class would identify "the other guy" as the decent taxpaying minority of women and men who enjoy the simple pleasure of an occasional cigarette or cigar.

Now, because of the transfer of the modest wealth of the States' worker *("middle")* class minority who pay taxes to support the dangerous tax-eating voting majority - including the States' Thug people who were drawn to the State to get "a free lunch",-*(so to speak)* the State is bankrupt. California politicians are now demanding that taxpayers in other States - including Coloradans - "pay their fair share" by supporting the California welfare State whit their hard earned tax money.

And why shouldn't they? As more and more States become impoverished as a result of failed Big Government economic and social programs, more and more Americans are discovering that we are ALL decent women and men who smoke tobacco now.

Note: Californian politicians are in the same bed with accused illegal drug using sports figures. Big Media uses "Big Tobacco" as Orwellian code-speak to justify imposing ever greater taxation on "the little folks".

Source: http://tinyurl.com/7tdksn6

Source: http://tinyurl.com/7aevrjz

Ronald

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#12 Jul 8, 2012
Why does Colorado Springs, rightwingers who HATE HATE HATE government especially the FEDERAL government cry for help from the government they hate?

Why aren't the rightwing residents of Colorado Springs handling their own fires and their own disasters? Come on people. You say there is no climate change. You say that people should take care of themselves.

God, what a bunch of crybaby hypocrites. Republiscum are such utter weaklings.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#13 Jul 8, 2012
"Because of conservative and libertarian sentiments and a no-tax pledge passed statewide 20 years ago, Colorado police and disaster-response teams are stretched thin as a virulent wildfire ravages land near Colorado Springs.

...Colorado Springs, which depends on sales tax for about half its revenue, was hit harder than most. The city the birthplace 20 years ago of the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, which later passed statewide and has been pushed around the country to restrict government spending became a high-profile example of cost-cutting. The law restricts government spending to the previous year's revenue, adjusted only for population growth and inflation.

...The city has been aggressive in applying for federal grants, too, which have funded wildfire-mitigation efforts, said Bret Waters, emergency management director.

Dunn notes that the city, where there is strong anti-federal-government sentiment, is now turning to the U.S. for assistance. Before visiting Colorado on Friday, President Obama declared the state a disaster area, which frees aid for communities affected by the wildfires.

"Ironically, Colorado Springs is going to rely heavily on federal funds for rebuilding," Dunn said. "But it won't cover everything."

ST

What a bunch of FLAMING CRYBABY REPUBLISCUM HYPOCRITES.

The only thing that Republiscums are is CHEAP. Republiscum do not want to have to pay for anything so they expect the rest of us to take care of their fat asses.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#14 Jul 9, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
"Because of conservative and libertarian sentiments and a no-tax pledge passed statewide 20 years ago, Colorado police and disaster-response teams are stretched thin as a virulent wildfire ravages land near Colorado Springs.
...Colorado Springs, which depends on sales tax for about half its revenue, was hit harder than most. The city the birthplace 20 years ago of the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, which later passed statewide and has been pushed around the country to restrict government spending became a high-profile example of cost-cutting. The law restricts government spending to the previous year's revenue, adjusted only for population growth and inflation.
...The city has been aggressive in applying for federal grants, too, which have funded wildfire-mitigation efforts, said Bret Waters, emergency management director.
Dunn notes that the city, where there is strong anti-federal-government sentiment, is now turning to the U.S. for assistance. Before visiting Colorado on Friday, President Obama declared the state a disaster area, which frees aid for communities affected by the wildfires.
"Ironically, Colorado Springs is going to rely heavily on federal funds for rebuilding," Dunn said. "But it won't cover everything."
ST
What a bunch of FLAMING CRYBABY REPUBLISCUM HYPOCRITES.
The only thing that Republiscums are is CHEAP. Republiscum do not want to have to pay for anything so they expect the rest of us to take care of their fat asses.
OregonSUX.

Yes. When you use the euphemisms "Federal grants", "aid" and "assistance", I assume you mean hard earned laundered taxpayer money. Ir really doesn't matter if this taxpayer money is paid directly through a system of exploitative Government tax system, or whether Big Government devalues the worth of hard earned savings and currency in circulation by simply printing up more of the stuff. Its all taxation.

Until the Government and academia was taken over by 60s 70s radical dreamers who produced today's failed Obama economy, most hard earned tax money was paid by the prudent worker *("middle")* class - those you refer to as "Republicans". Since the failure of these revolutionary economic schemes, though, this class of taxpayers has become "tapped out".*(so to speak)*

There will be no easy fix to get out of this predicament. The majority of Americans do not pay taxes. Clever schemes such as earned income tax credit "rebates" and in-kind provisions - including taxpayer funded food stamps - are designed by revolutionary politicians to more than repay the minimal amount of sales and other taxes imposed on the Tax eating majority. Before the economy can even hope to recover, the majority of Americans who pay no taxes must tighten their belts and reduce their standard of living to the same level as those who are being taxed to pay for it.

Ronald

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#15 Jul 10, 2012
There are no libertarians in disaster zones. They are all crying for the federal government to save their fat asses.

They are pathetic.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#16 Jul 10, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
OregonSUX.
Yes. When you use the euphemisms "Federal grants", "aid" and "assistance", I assume you mean hard earned laundered taxpayer money. Ir really doesn't matter if this taxpayer money is paid directly through a system of exploitative Government tax system, or whether Big Government devalues the worth of hard earned savings and currency in circulation by simply printing up more of the stuff. Its all taxation.
Until the Government and academia was taken over by 60s 70s radical dreamers who produced today's failed Obama economy, most hard earned tax money was paid by the prudent worker *("middle")* class - those you refer to as "Republicans". Since the failure of these revolutionary economic schemes, though, this class of taxpayers has become "tapped out".*(so to speak)*
There will be no easy fix to get out of this predicament. The majority of Americans do not pay taxes. Clever schemes such as earned income tax credit "rebates" and in-kind provisions - including taxpayer funded food stamps - are designed by revolutionary politicians to more than repay the minimal amount of sales and other taxes imposed on the Tax eating majority. Before the economy can even hope to recover, the majority of Americans who pay no taxes must tighten their belts and reduce their standard of living to the same level as those who are being taxed to pay for it.
Ronald
Total BS.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#17 Sep 1, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>
Total BS.
OregonSUX.

Exactly. I too, have noticed that the only advocates for increasing taxes from their already confiscatory level are the tax eaters and the taxpayer supported Thug people, not the minority of Americans who actually pay taxes.

Ronald

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#18 Sep 1, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
OregonSUX.
Exactly. I too, have noticed that the only advocates for increasing taxes from their already confiscatory level are the tax eaters and the taxpayer supported Thug people, not the minority of Americans who actually pay taxes.
Ronald
Republiscum = cheapskates and leeches expecting the rest of us to pay for them.

The Republiscum ticket would:

1. Massively increase middle class taxes + reduce benefits to nearly ZERO + increase costs by committing illegal wars again.

2. Reduce billionaires and millionaires taxation to ZERO or very close to ZERO as Romney's $21 M in annual income would see a 0.82% tax rate versus his already very low 13.9% rate.

The GOPUX is entirely about, for and to the benefit of its 17 BILLIONAIRES and their families who expect their fascism to be rewarded by turning the USA from a democracy to a feudal state.

A vote for ANY Republiscum is a vote for feudalism.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#19 Sep 1, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
OregonSUX.
Exactly. I too, have noticed that the only advocates for increasing taxes from their already confiscatory level are the tax eaters and the taxpayer supported Thug people, not the minority of Americans who actually pay taxes.
Ronald
Ronald McDonald,

Everyone who lives in or even passes through the USA pays taxes. It is, like death, inevitable because, even if you cannot comprehend such a thing, it takes money to pay for the things you like.

I know Republiscum think that roads and bridges and Coast Guard rescue and traffic signals and sidewalks and national parks and food safety and research grants and the court system are FREE they are, in actuality, NOT FREE. Republiscum are quite childish in this regard.

Renters contribute to property taxes through their rent, customers contribute to businesses taxes through their patronage, people pay sales taxes and fees. Some people (like GE which, according to Romney the fascist, is a person called Mr General Electric) pay no federal income taxes in some years because they did not pay enough in adjusted gross income to pay.

This is entirely different, Ronald McDonald, from the RomneyFascistLeech model in which his AGI is still in the millions but he is protected from taxation because, you know, he does not have to go to work in the morning and do something productive.

Yes, the Republiscum economic model PENALIZES PRODUCTIVE LABOR and rewards bond clippers.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#20 Sep 1, 2012
That is, they did not MAKE enough in ADI to pay.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Colorado Springs Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Review: Academy Kids Dental Ctr - Ronald Montan... (Sep '11) 22 hr The Purple Squishy 13
Review: Hammond Law Group, LLC (Nov '12) Tue 14VirginiaH 12
sex now drugs and rock and roll horny (Nov '13) Nov 20 4 real man 18
Hey, i may be moving to you soon! Nov 19 barrelracer 2
who do I hire ??? Nov 19 jenniflower 1
mdma Nov 18 The Roc 1
Watch Woody Harrelson mistake Hunger Games co-s... Nov 17 Rev Don Wildmoan 1

Colorado Springs People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Colorado Springs News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Colorado Springs

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]

NFL Latest News

Updated 4:50 pm PST

Yahoo! Sports 4:50PM
Week 13 Rankings
Bleacher Report 9:49 PM
Breaking Down Denver's Game Plan vs. KC
Bleacher Report11:29 AM
Arizona Cardinals vs. Atlanta Falcons Betting Odds, Analysis, NFL Pick
NBC Sports12:53 PM
Julius Thomas practices, Fox dubs tight end "day to day"
NBC Sports 1:27 PM
Anderson's arrival, Green's return keys Broncos - NBC Sports