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Jul 11, 2012
 
Are they shut down ?
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Jul 12, 2012
 
Curious wrote:
Are they shut down ?
No they are not, but THANKS TO OBAMA, they will be. People here in Clay, more particularly, West Virginia, should not re-elect him come November.

Here the press release Consol Energy released to the newspapers on June 29th--------
PITTSBURGH, June 29, 2012 /PRNewswire/-- CONSOL Energy Inc.(CNX) has issued notice under the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN) of a layoff at its Fola Operations near Bickmore, West Virginia. It is expected that the layoffs will impact approximately 318 employees at the Fola complex and will occur during a 14-day period beginning at 12:01 a.m., on Thursday, August 30, 2012. Surface, reclamation, underground, and general office staff will be affected and were officially briefed on the situation yesterday and today.

(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120416/NE... )

CONSOL Energy expects 2012 production to be reduced by approximately 800,000 tons. To date in 2012, the Fola complex has produced 1.05 million tons of coal. Annual direct estimated economic impact of the Fola Complex is $165 million.

CONSOL Energy attributed the idling of its Fola operations to a combination of market conditions and increasing pressure from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which has resulted in both increased costs of surface mining and significant uncertainty for the company's power generation customers related to the continued use of Central Appalachian coal.

"The decision to idle our Fola operations is a difficult one, but in an effort to manage our inventory and to balance coal production with expected utility demand and shipping schedules, we are faced with making adjustments which unfortunately will impact our workforce," said Nicholas J. DeIuliis, president. "The domestic market for coal remains soft due to weak economic growth and activity. The warm winter resulted in the growth of our utility customers' stockpiles and their inability to accept committed coal shipments. Additionally, the escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry."

In the interim period between today and when the layoff takes effect, underground operations will continue, however, Fola surface employees will be reassigned from mining to reclamation work. The only coal to be mined on the surface will be coal incidental to reclamation. Following the initial 60-day period, mining will be idled at the underground operations. Reclamation will begin in areas not necessary to future operations and an undetermined number of employees will be retained to assist in those efforts.
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Jul 12, 2012
 
futureoutofworkcoalminer wrote:
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No they are not, but THANKS TO OBAMA, they will be. People here in Clay, more particularly, West Virginia, should not re-elect him come November.
Here the press release Consol Energy released to the newspapers on June 29th--------
PITTSBURGH, June 29, 2012 /PRNewswire/-- CONSOL Energy Inc.(CNX) has issued notice under the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN) of a layoff at its Fola Operations near Bickmore, West Virginia. It is expected that the layoffs will impact approximately 318 employees at the Fola complex and will occur during a 14-day period beginning at 12:01 a.m., on Thursday, August 30, 2012. Surface, reclamation, underground, and general office staff will be affected and were officially briefed on the situation yesterday and today.
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120416/NE... )
CONSOL Energy expects 2012 production to be reduced by approximately 800,000 tons. To date in 2012, the Fola complex has produced 1.05 million tons of coal. Annual direct estimated economic impact of the Fola Complex is $165 million.
CONSOL Energy attributed the idling of its Fola operations to a combination of market conditions and increasing pressure from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which has resulted in both increased costs of surface mining and significant uncertainty for the company's power generation customers related to the continued use of Central Appalachian coal.
"The decision to idle our Fola operations is a difficult one, but in an effort to manage our inventory and to balance coal production with expected utility demand and shipping schedules, we are faced with making adjustments which unfortunately will impact our workforce," said Nicholas J. DeIuliis, president. "The domestic market for coal remains soft due to weak economic growth and activity. The warm winter resulted in the growth of our utility customers' stockpiles and their inability to accept committed coal shipments. Additionally, the escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry."
In the interim period between today and when the layoff takes effect, underground operations will continue, however, Fola surface employees will be reassigned from mining to reclamation work. The only coal to be mined on the surface will be coal incidental to reclamation. Following the initial 60-day period, mining will be idled at the underground operations. Reclamation will begin in areas not necessary to future operations and an undetermined number of employees will be retained to assist in those efforts.
you seem to be as dumb as the reat of the people who think obama made it stay warm all winter that made stock piles at power plants remain stockup you should lose your job your most likey to dumb to read
justwaitandsee

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Jul 12, 2012
 
wanting tn know wrote:
<quoted text>you seem to be as dumb as the reat of the people who think obama made it stay warm all winter that made stock piles at power plants remain stockup you should lose your job your most likey to dumb to read
The lack of power that we had this past week is just a taste of what is coming without coal. The warm weather just played a small part in Fola's decision to shut the mine down.
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The lack of power that we had this past week is just a taste of what is coming without coal. The warm weather just played a small part in Fola's decision to shut the mine down.
the mine was bought for a tax writeoff and the act on clean coal was sign under bush not obama
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I heard a news report that describes the layoffs and idled mines as "production discipline" which, according to large investment firms is badly needed to keep the investors from having their asses handed to them due to dropping prices. Consol, Arch, Alpha are large companies that are traded publicly and the investors care more about their lifestyle than they do ours.

Just saying this because it isn't only Obama causing this problem with the EPA, it is also due to big business driving the price of coal up and then idling mines when the price falls too far.

There have been thousands and thousands of people laid off in the past 5-7 years across this country and hundreds of factories closed, and those people and their towns just dried up. Coal miners are just now getting hit VERY hard, but they aren't the only ones this has happened to.

If you're finally sick enough of all of this, stop turning your heads to what is really going on....big business has been selling us out for many years and ALL presidential administrations for the past 20 years have helped them do it. Big business has taken over our government and they are all choking this economy for every penny they can get out of us! And it's perfectly legal because no one is standing up to them!!!!!
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Obama has no blame in the shut downs. The industry is to blame for not following the rules and regulations that guide them. The coal industry has had WV fooled for too long. They do not care about miners only money. The mines are unsafe and black lung cases have nearly doubled. I will never understand why so many call themselves a Friend of Coal...I would not want a friend that is destroying drinking water, polluting the air and causing poverty. Wake up WV!
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people giving their opinoins on here about the coal industry saying that obama isnt to blame must be either tree huggers or well lets not give the other answer to that one
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Jul 13, 2012
 
May not do any good but Bambam sure ain't getting my vote
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Jul 13, 2012
 
If a company can not sell a product or coal why not lay off. losing money is not profit.
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Jul 13, 2012
 
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people giving their opinoins on here about the coal industry saying that obama isnt to blame must be either tree huggers or well lets not give the other answer to that one
Labeling people for their opinions is wrong. I agree that Obama is strict with enforcing regulations, but why have them if you not going to enforce them. The coal industry has force fed us bullshit for years. Coal is killing a lot more than the environment. Coalfield residents have cancer and live in poverty. Once Consol shuts its doors life in Clay County will go on we don't need coal the coal industry needs us.
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Jul 14, 2012
 
Its not obamas fault that fola didnt clean the pits or pad the pits before backfilling. thats why the EPA is on them.the water will have to be treated for ever.
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Jul 14, 2012
 
your missing a valuable point here , if Consol shuts down the county loses what taxes the county commissioners didnt give away . So your kids lose , the Board of Education will make cuts and it won't be the staff in the main office that gets cut first . They will start at the bottom and work their way up . You think the county is in dire straits now , watch and see what Linkonogger does after he sees there isn't any money flow . Fingers will start pointing at every one but himself . This is a domino effect , the effects wont stop there , there will be a great many effected by this more so than just the miners . The whole county will feel the effects in one way or another . If Consol has rule to follow then they need to follow them , they are making money hand over fist , all they have to do is what is right . Just go by the rules . That way everybody wins . Quit being so greedy .
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Jul 14, 2012
 
Correction " If Consol has rules to follow then they need to follow them . "
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We're gonna start tearing down the large equipment in September. All will be going to the Miller Creek operations. The rest will go back on lease or sold. Myself I'm going to Cannonsburg PA. Being transferred next year after we reclaim this site. All our tax money will be going to Mingo county. By by clay suckers
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Jul 14, 2012
 
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Labeling people for their opinions is wrong. I agree that Obama is strict with enforcing regulations, but why have them if you not going to enforce them. The coal industry has force fed us bullshit for years. Coal is killing a lot more than the environment. Coalfield residents have cancer and live in poverty. Once Consol shuts its doors life in Clay County will go on we don't need coal the coal industry needs us.
Oh, what will happen to our elected officials in Clay when they have no coal severence tax to barter deals for their own self interests? I do agree the coal industry needs good qualified workers as does our country. The full affect of shutting down the coal industry hasn't taken place yet. Let's watch the lights go out in the White House and then maybe the industry will get a shot in the arm.
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We're gonna start tearing down the large equipment in September. All will be going to the Miller Creek operations. The rest will go back on lease or sold. Myself I'm going to Cannonsburg PA. Being transferred next year after we reclaim this site. All our tax money will be going to Mingo county. By by clay suckers
Hope you have that cannonsburg job in writing, Iam sure that johns rubed his wet willy acrossed your forehead afew times,but he is going to need someone to blame for the extra cost. And all the selenium on job 4.You and the other dumbass foremen have that job so screwed up that it will take alot longer than your dumbass thinks.So I wouldnt count on going to PA.You will be looking a for a job. As for the tax money there will be an other company that knows how to mine coal will come in and pick up where you all left off and not screw up our water.
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Jul 14, 2012
 
We need coal but we dont need companys like consol who only cares only about there botom line.When Amvest was there they had plans for a road to summersville and dirt work for a new high school.Hopefully another company will start minning at fola and be like Amvest and care about clay county.So hopefully consol and people like foreman 2 will go back where they came from, and we all will be better off.Reminber foreman 2 you still have to drive through clay county
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Jul 15, 2012
 
Happy wrote:
We need coal but we dont need companys like consol who only cares only about there botom line.When Amvest was there they had plans for a road to summersville and dirt work for a new high school.Hopefully another company will start minning at fola and be like Amvest and care about clay county.So hopefully consol and people like foreman 2 will go back where they came from, and we all will be better off.Reminber foreman 2 you still have to drive through clay county
Who do you think is going to mine OUR property. We own it were not selling it contrary to what clay go Mart says. Unfortunately I do have to drive through your sorry county but not for much longer. Heading for PA before Christmas. Happy u must have been or be one of the union pussies we sent kicking cans down the road or will be kicking cans down the road. Enjoy the walk.
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Jul 15, 2012
 
If Consol isnt selling out then they can pay taxes on the coal reserves and what ever other holdings they happen to have . May as well get something out of ya . Sell coal pay taxes , sit on the coal pay taxes .
If ya dont want to pay on the reserve sell to someone who will . At one time is was said there was 20-25 years worth of coal reserves , hm gee that should add up to a good chunk for the county .

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