Cherokees to assist CDIB card applicants

Who is Chief Red Bird , John which tribe do you belong to ?

I am traveling and away from my home state of oklahoma and I think my appendix is bad - I have my CDIB card - can I go to a hospital out of state as long as I call my hospital in Oklahoma within 72 hours and tell them what has happened? I was told this on the phone by a friend - but not sure they know what is real or not?

Just called them out thier and they saidthe state does not have any IHS services ,but have a number of clinics and the services are different in each county..... Go to www.IHS.gov and go down to the area offices..... then look forthe cal clinic in that area...... You may be S.O.L.

So my Grandpa was Cherokee but he never talked about his family. He died the year I was born and I don't know how to get the information I need. I don't have any names except his!

You can start by looking on hes death certification papers and it should have hes mother or father names. What was hes age when he passed.
This happens a lot and your not the only person that has parnets of grandparants that never said much until after them passing.
Post a last name ofthe side thats Cherokee may help and may be able to look it up.

most of you whites never wanted to us until you got benefits

Tryme you have a point with this, but if they can prove that they have some one listed on the Dawes ( final roll) as far as the Cherokee roll goes ( Shawnee Delware and Freedmen ) they have everyright to any benefits that may be given by the tribe or the Fed.s.
It's their birth right,know matter how you look or feel about it or B.Q.
And don't know if your a member of a tribe, but if so you should know many don't get to first base on this ,account they Cherokees only allow the Dawes roll.

I have heard my grandfather had some kind of card, then I was told it was not true. I just found out it was true and he showed a cousin of mine some stuff. where would I look to find out this information? I am not sure what papers or anything he had. as stated above, I maybe an apple..lol I tan pretty red. I just want to know where I come from. I would probably be to far down the line for any kind of card or what ever it is. I am not sure if we knew the last name of the women. I do have a family tree some where. if any one can help sherri_2970@yahoo.com.
Thank You in advance!

First thing is to ask your cuz, what tribe and information. Get your grandfather full name and if cherokee call down to Cherokee Nation and ask them if they could tell you if hes name is lited as a member of the tribe.
It does not matter how far dow nthe line is as long a you can show someone that was listed on the Dawes Roll.(And the family tree is a big help)
And lots of apples these days with or with out cards. Start with give me hes full name or hes mother or father, if on the Dawes roll ( which is the only roll the C.N. goes by) it would show up and we can go from their.

Sherri your going to have to come up with a better e-mail then you have it does not work sherri_2970@yahoo.com

I am black and Native American (with a little white mixed in) and I have taken a MtDna test that proved that I am Native American (maternal lineage-Haplogroup D). I took the test trying to find out more of my African roots, and ended up learning that I needed to delve more into my Native roots as well through that process. I have been told numerous times by my maternal grandmother about our Native American ancestry but since the olden days, things have gotten lost or misconstrued. She is proud of her heritage as well as I am but she wasn't enrolled and neither was her mother. We're not sure if her mother before her was enrolled or not...documents were either lost or burned.
I would like to register w/ the Cherokee myself, not because I have an ulterior motive or just want the money or benefits like most do, but because where I come from is extremely important to me. I've always felt a need to belong. I never really knew much about my ancestors (from either side of my family...my dad's side has Native American ancestry as well),and it makes me feel like something is wrong. I should know more about who I am.
Many African-American/Native American mixed people were told to keep their "Indian" side quiet because it would only cause problems back in the days when being Native was a bad thing. I don't want to be ashamed of who I am. My grandmother still cooks food that has been passed down from her Native American lineage. We have no pictures of any of our ancestors, no records, nothing. I am the only one in my family who wants to become a member of a tribe. My grandma is so proud but she sees it as too painful and a dead end. She doesn't believe that I will ever be a part of a tribe because of my "slave" lineage. We have a place out in Kingstree, South Carolina and we also own a plantation there.
I am 24 years old and I would like to learn the language, the culture, and the ways of my people. I want to know my ancestors, I want to know their names,to hear their voices when I speak. I feel like I have been robbed of knowing my people.
Like Kimberly that posted before me, I feel for her because we're all the same, "Where I was raised we never spoke of where my grandparents were from, were never told about ANY of our ancestors, so I grew up without a culture, like my family was dropped from a spaceship or something." Many of us are like this. We were told nothing because our families were told to keep quiet or relocate and be separated from what we knew. By registering,I feel that there is a better opportunity for me to find lost family members, rekindle with my ancestors.
I want to prove to my grandmother that our ancestors and our people haven't turned their back on us. That despite everything, we do still belong and we still have a home to go back to.
I need all the help that I can get. Please contact me at claudetta.m.milton@us.army.mil

First of all Claudetta is your family or any of them from the Oklahoma area?

I sure you know by now DNA may tell your of NAtive American Blood, but still cannot tell what tribe you belong to.

It's your birth righ if you can prove you belong to a tribe, and have everyright to anything they offer it.

Start with putting together the family tree. And as much information you have . Pictures don't meana thing.
Your mother or fathers birth or death cert. would list and their mother or fahter, would also have information.
Give me a name of whom was native american before 1908 and may be able to help.

And you may also want to look if they were in Oklahoma for records of the Cherokee Freedmen ( ex-slaves that were given full rights as cherokee members.

Looks like Kim and Sherri gave up.

Hello, I'm with a similar problem. I have been in California (San Francisco) 20 years. I am 1/2 Cherokee, an adopted daughter of a Freedwoman. INitially, I was so taken aback by her response to adoption forum, I "misread" and thought she did not wish contact with me. Now I realize this would be necessary for a CDIB card. So i went back to the forum, and my 1/2 brother (I'm 1/2 white, he's 1/2 black and not adopted, but younger by 2 years). Also, I cannot use my birth certificate --- the race is wrong anyway. Maybe you had a development in your issue that would assist. I am really losing my health am 44. I was also told by my home state, Kentucky that i would need to petition a judge in that state, a lot of red tape, and she told me it was (as i understand it, like sticking your finger in a glass of water, asking is this warm)...not easy... Thanks,(bmother is Yates)

Too Old and Tired wrote:

My Mother has a CDIB card. I took the last name of my Step Father, without legal adoption. I have the hospital copy of my birth certificate, but no other papers with my birth name to prove I am that person. I know who my Dawes Role Ancestors were. How do I proceed to acquire a CDIB card ? I live in California.

Claire, who is cherokee as far as your parnet? And why cant; you use your birth state issue birth cetificate,most people says white on it anyway.

Also your mother or father birth certificate would help, but look at any death certificate, they would list their parnets, which could get you back to the dawes.

I have just sent all of my information for cdib to the Cherokee Tribe of OK. I can only prove 1/2. My Mother is Full blooded and my bio-father whom is not on my BC was 5/8 and also had his number. My Bio father is deceased and I know his family does not know of me. I did try to contact his sister when I found out I was adopted And had "NO LUCK", "FULL DENIAL" I have come to the conclusion that I really dont think I would like to associate with DNA family if they are anything like her! So my question: Is there any way of proving My Bio Fathers side without "interfering" with his family?? Or am I now officially 1/2 Cherokee??

Guess your not officially 1/2 until the paper work comes back. Lots of people send in paper work and find out they our less when it comes back. It is what every the B.Q. shows on the Dawes roll, know matter what you put down or think you our.
Don't know whats wrong with only being half, the botton line you would now be a citizen of the Cheorkee Nation and I know many cherokee that have alot less blood... But you may want to check state records or your fathers death or birth papers.

be looking for about one year before you get anythng back from the tribe, they our real slow.
( now if you been sick, they can take it around others as far as geting it done faster.
I would not worry that much about the blood, account I know many with high B.Q. that are what they call apples red on the outside and all white on the inside and know very little about the Cherokee culture.

Bob, my mother already has her cdib and she is 4/4. We have already had our papers in for over a year, mine just got held up due to adoption. They needed my final decree of adoption. So I gave alot of thought to what you said about the apple...I am all Cherokee on the inside! And I am very proud of "my good 1/2" As well so are my children!! There are not alot of indians around here...but they all seem to be indian somewhere in their families! haha I just guess it is what is in your heart that really counts! So with that I am completely satisfied with my 1/2!!! And everything is as it should be!! Thanks again Bob!!

How long have you had the papers in? And does it show on your birth papers who your mother is ?

P.S. we have alot of Indians around here, just can't tell, or most don't care how much B.Q. is, and many just looking for what they can get from the tribe. And thats goes for apples and thin blood.
Your right it's where your heart is, and some still full blood at heart, even if they have a drop of Cherokee blood, but like I said many just looking at what they can get as a member of the tribe.

My mother is on my BC. Father on my BC is left blank. My father now, adopted me when I was 3. Like I said before I know who he (Bio father) was but that is about it. I was only adopted by my father. We have had our apps in for about 14 months. Yes it is a lengthy process. My Children were the only native americans in their school out of 1,500 students. Just to give you an idea of how many strong we are around here. My mother is orig from Tahlequah I loved it there!! I was truly amazed by how many people looked just like myself. I will go back!