Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

Frijoles wrote:

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Whats derogatory about being called a green worm? If I was a worm, I wouldnt want it any other way.
Plus worms often have sex with themselves. We could learn a lot from them in that regard.

rabbee: well nothing, if you don't being called a maggot before that. or being called, a numbnut afterwards. with everyone to afraid, to call them little jesus'es.

would this bother you more, to be called jesus? if you knew this, has never been your name. so why should i or G-D be upset, if they keep calling me that name that is never been mine? as if we need, a mr jesus look alike contest. to select another fake, with a fake name.

hey why not have a, mrs jesus christ beauty pagent? to select a wife for me here in TheTorah, that i won't get not here in TheTorah either.

as i would be too afraid, to ask for a mrs adam beauty pagent. cause i am afraid, all their no good here in TheTorah. would select their no good, grandmother again here in TheTorah.

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: well nothing, if you don't being called a maggot before that. or being called, a numbnut afterwards. with everyone to afraid, to call them little jesus'es.
would this bother you more, to be called jesus? if you knew this, has never been your name. so why should i or G-D be upset, if they keep calling me that name that is never been mine? as if we need, a mr jesus look alike contest. to select another fake, with a fake name.

mind being called: that is.

Frijoles wrote:

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I am reasonably confident they have Google even in Saudia Arabia.

Why should I google it when I have experts at hand? It is you who mentioned the term and you should explain it, when I asked about it.

Why are you so ashamed to explain it?

Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 13A

By Jeffrey Rudolph

THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE QUIZ QUESTIONS:

Q13.

From Israel's victory in the 1967 War to the Likud's electoral victory in 1977, approximately how many Jewish settlers migrated to East Jerusalem and to the West Bank and Gaza Strip?

Ans. 13.

38,000.

(CONTD.)

TO: MAAT, this series is dedicated to you- MUQ

Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method, Dr. Steven E. Jones Part-4

The rapid, symmetrical collapse of WTC 7 / And strange behavior of NIST

13. Consider the collapse of building seven, a 47-story skyscraper in the WTC complex which was never hit by a plane. We can learn a lot by measuring the time for descent of the southwest corner of the roof as it begins its steady drop to the ground.

A simple way to perform this measurement yourself is to use a stopwatch and time the descent of the southwest corner of the roof from several different perspectives. Videos can be found at wtc7.net . Some activity in the central area of the building can be seen since a kink appears. Shortly after, the southwest corner of the roof begins a steady fall to the ground. The time has been measured to be (6.5 +- 0.2) seconds.

14. Personally, when I first saw these videos at WTC7.net and noticed the straight-down symmetrical collapse of this building, my curiosity was roused as a scientist. Of course, you should observe the collapse yourself and consider if the rapid collapse of the building does not look a bit strange and worth further scrutiny. Is 6.5 seconds a reasonable collapse time? For comparison, consider how fast a brick dropped from the corner of the roof would fall. How long does it take the brick to hit the ground? The answer is 6.0 seconds (and that’s in a vacuum). The roof fell at very nearly free-fall speed!

( http://www.youtube.com/watch... )

15. How is this possible? There’s a lot of steel and concrete between the roof and the ground so the rapid fall immediately raises questions. After all, in science, we must consider conservation of momentum, a fundamental law of physics. I do like to teach physics, and conservation of momentum is one of my favorite topics.

Conservation of Momentum:

16. Now we’re going to apply conservation of momentum as we consider the collapse of Building Seven at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 about seven hours after the collapse of the towers.

( http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/vide... )

17. I have timed a number of controlled demolitions that are done by explosives. The time it takes for the roof to hit the ground is near freefall time, a little over. To find the freefall time of the roof with nothing in the way, find the height of the building (y) and then calculate the time by solving the standard equation for the time of fall (y =½ gt2).

18. For controlled demolitions, buildings fall close to freefall time, just as the descent of WTC7’s roof-corner is close to freefall time. But with no explosives (the “official theory”) and the law of conservation of momentum, material below the roof – including intact steel columns – must significantly slow the motion of the roof. What is happening?

It is as if something is moving the material out of the way beneath the roof, something like explosives, for example. Furthermore, it appears impossible for this 47-story steel-frame building to collapse rapidly and symmetrically onto its footprint as it did when random fires and damage were present; could the support columns fail abruptly, simultaneously?

(I pointed out that I could not find a way to do that and conserve momentum and I went through the arguments. A professor from MIT listened to my arguments. Although a supporter of Pons and Fleishman at that time, he said as I explained the conservation of momentum argument that he “saw the guillotine blade fall” on Pons and Fleishman’s idea. That was correct and the same thing applies here: Conservation of Momentum cannot be neglected.)

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200... (Contd.)

Synopsis of Part-4

WTC-7 and its strange collapse

1. Starting point of any independent investigation should be WTC-7, a high security 47 story building.

2. How could such a building collapse , when no plane ever hit it, just from falling debris from WTC Towers?

3. Why collapse of WTC was never even mentioned in 9/11 Commission report. Did many nearby buildings collapsed on 9/11 eve, that Commission found its fall “insignificant”? Was omission intentional or Unintentional?

4. Fall time of WTC (from videos) is 6.5 Seconds which is like a free fall.

5. Such falls are very common in buildings that are brought down in controlled demolitions, and not for buildings coming down due to impact or fire.

6. Conservation of Momentum is the key factor, which is not explained in the fall of WTC-7

Any comments please!!

MUQ wrote:

Synopsis of Part-4
WTC-7 and its strange collapse
1. Starting point of any independent investigation should be WTC-7, a high security 47 story building.
2. How could such a building collapse , when no plane ever hit it, just from falling debris from WTC Towers?
3. Why collapse of WTC was never even mentioned in 9/11 Commission report. Did many nearby buildings collapsed on 9/11 eve, that Commission found its fall “insignificant”? Was omission intentional or Unintentional?
4. Fall time of WTC (from videos) is 6.5 Seconds which is like a free fall.
5. Such falls are very common in buildings that are brought down in controlled demolitions, and not for buildings coming down due to impact or fire.
6. Conservation of Momentum is the key factor, which is not explained in the fall of WTC-7
Any comments please!!

rabbee: how much data do you have, for buildings on fire for more than eight hours? and how much data do you have, for any surrounding buildings, after the collapse of two tall nearby structures. i have even felt the shock wave, from a collapsing wall. and the shock wave, is far greater than one might imagine. and once it gets moving, there is nothing going to stop it. the force it would take, to stop ten tons of wall from continuing it's fall is more than any normal structure of equal size can stand.

personally i think you are straining at a blind gnat, and missing the exploding exploding muslem camel. just for the fear, of offending muslems.

nobody on earth determined, exactly how those building were to fall. this is determined by G-D, even if hasatan is given the assignnent. and G-D would not of authorized it, unless hasatan had some validity in doing it. G-D does not allow, hasatan to do any thing he wants, the way he wants. but if it is to be done, then G-D dictates how it is to all happen.

and the walls of Yereecho, didn't even need an airplane to do this. and there are those today, who blame the government cover up for it.

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: naw! the new recruits, have to work their way up from being maggots and green worms first. in order to deserve to be called, the higher order numbnut. then when they deserve it they(the drill instructor) may even call you private, numbnut. but generally you use the singular, numbnut, when zeroing in on an individual. even though all the other numbnuts must look up, to see if you are zeroing in on them. but then they know they have evolved, when you finally call them trainee, fire team, squad, platoon, company.

LOL it's like reading Terry Prattchet.
By being such a short recruit he couldn't be accused of eyeballing the sergeant:...'Snotface, are you naveling me!"

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: how much data do you have, for buildings on fire for more than eight hours? and how much data do you have, for any surrounding buildings, after the collapse of two tall nearby structures. i have even felt the shock wave, from a collapsing wall. and the shock wave, is far greater than one might imagine. and once it gets moving, there is nothing going to stop it. the force it would take, to stop ten tons of wall from continuing it's fall is more than any normal structure of equal size can stand.
personally i think you are straining at a blind gnat, and missing the exploding exploding muslem camel. just for the fear, of offending muslems.

And the significant damage to a loadbearing corner of the building.
And the extreme damage of loadbearing structures underground.
Normally you would destroy those first, well that was done for them, and the structural damage on top could have been the last straw plus ongoing fires all day weakening metal.
So i see a combination of factors.
If any explosives, it wouldn't have needed much.
Insignificant might be used in the sence of not really having any baring on the invetigation itselve.
Thus also not if explosives where used later.

Who here will agree that Israel is a great threat to middle eastern peace prospects in particular, and world peace prospects in general??

No more sitting the fence boys...

http://911review.com/errors/wtc/seismic.html
Most of the energy absorbed by nearby building.
Low buildings (8 and 9 floors) in front of wtc 7

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/a...
Part of the north-tower innnercore held a good 15-30 sec (max).

The towers tops had to be only 50 feet of their center of gravity, and given angular momentum they would fall.
Trusses always showing without the long I beams connecting them.
Those were found the be seen on some picture as bending extremely.

Width, tapering and number of collums use, material specs, spacing. A lot could not be found in the reports.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.htm...

Energy transfer in the wtc collapse .Greene
https://docs.google.com/viewer...

This section is more notable for what it does not discuss, than what it does. Conspicuously missing, is any discussion of the mode of failure of the core column-to-beam and core column-to-column connections. This most important topic has been almost totally ignored, with the presentation of a photo of a failed column-to-column connection in Figure B-6 being judged sufficient coverage (by those with something to hide).

B.1 Structural Steel

This appendix focuses mainly on the structural steel and connections in the WTC towers (WTC 1 and WTC 2), but column-tree connections in WTC 5 are also considered. Other WTC structures were fabricated from ASTM A36 and A572 grade steels, and their structural framing and connections are discussed in prior chapters.

The structural steel used in the exterior 14-inch by 14-inch columns that were spaced at 3 feet 4 inches on center around the entire periphery of each of the WTC towers was fabricated from various grades of high-strength steel with minimum specified yield stress between 36 kips per square inch (ksi) and 100 ksi (PATH-NYNJ 1976). Column plate thickness varied from 1/4 inch to 5/8 inch in the impact zone of WTC 1 for floors 89-101, and from 1/4 inch to 13/16 inch in the impact zone of WTC 2 for floors 77-87. Spandrel beams at each floor level were fabricated of matching steel and integrated into the columns as the columns and spandrel sections were prefabricated into trees. These trees were three columns wide and one to three stories high. The cross-sectional shape of the columns can be seen in Figure B-1. These varied in length from 12 feet 6 inches to 38 feet, depending on the plate thickness and location.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2...
I recall cussing my way through the entire stupid kips, inches and feet Americans use. Redo all the calculations in normal language. ;)

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rabbee: how much data do you have, for buildings on fire for more than eight hours? and how much data do you have, for any surrounding buildings, after the collapse of two tall nearby structures. i have even felt the shock wave, from a collapsing wall. and the shock wave, is far greater than one might imagine. and once it gets moving, there is nothing going to stop it. the force it would take, to stop ten tons of wall from continuing it's fall is more than any normal structure of equal size can stand.

personally i think you are straining at a blind gnat, and missing the exploding muslim camel. just for the fear, of offending Muslims.

2.

nobody on earth determined, exactly how those building were to fall. this is determined by G-D, even if hasatan is given the assignnent. and G-D would not of authorized it, unless hasatan had some validity in doing it. G-D does not allow, hasatan to do any thing he wants, the way he wants. but if it is to be done, then G-D dictates how it is to all happen.

and the walls of Yereecho, didn't even need an airplane to do this. and there are those today, who blame the government cover up for it.

Ans.

What ever data you have on these things and whatever formulas and calculations you use, the collapse of WTC towers and WTC-7 cannot be explained!!

That is why NO ONE constructed a scale model of WTC Towers and duplicated their fall.

In your imaginations, you can imagine anything and no one can stop you from imagining.

But real world is different from your imaginary world.

Yes nothing happens on earth unless commanded by God….then why you punish all these criminals and why there were wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and else where?

NOTE:

I was intending staying away from the threads given the depressing and perverse atmosphere and the inferior standards, but the imposter on the Allah thread posting in my name has forced me to surface and I will have to resume posting on a regular basis for the simple reason that I don't want my name bandied around and besides I don't want to be held responsible for any nonsense posted in my name.

If the moderator can block the imposter, then I shall retreat and go back into hibernation.

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Yes nothing happens on earth unless commanded by God....

Really?

So, your God supports or permits perversions and sufferings?

(smiles)