Albemarle to Pay to Move 9 Homeless into The Crossings - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Spo...

The wait is over for nine homeless people in Albemarle County who were promised a move into low-income housing by March. Full Story
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Dude

Boyce, VA

#45 Aug 2, 2012
CvilleMechEngr wrote:
I feel that it's appropriate to take care of those who live here, who went to school here, who worked here. I don't think that somebody should be able to wander in to take advantage of services offered here. It is relevant to ask, "how long have you lived here?"
If that's the case, I don't think it's appropriate for those who haven't lived here, and brought wealth and employment to this community to actually have to support them.
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Let's just say, if you're a wealth creator you get to live here tax free for x amount of time. Though, what incentive would that create for those who are wealth creators that have lived here for x amount of time?
TJeff

Charlottesville, VA

#46 Aug 2, 2012
Sad but true wrote:
So please clarify this for me. Is Albemarle County (the taxpayers)footing the bill for these 9 to live free for an entire year? Are there no stipulations of at minimum of showing an effort to find employment to off set some of the cost?? I can think of a lot of people that could use just a little help with housing who bust their butts working everyday trying to make ends meet. I'm all for helping people but only if they make an effort to help themselves.
Did you know that we taxpayers can pay up to $40k per year per individual when you think of all the ER visits, all the extra law enforcement that is used which equates to $3300 per month per individual???? according to Shaun Donovan of HUD, also using supportive housing ( and yes they will have rent to pay) decreases the cost of law enforcement overall and my health costs because of more appropriate access of medical care.
Yes the example you use I agree with, why cant we make that a priority, what is stopping us from asking that programs for that be enacted?
Yogi

Charlottesville, VA

#47 Aug 2, 2012
And how are these homeless going to pay us back?
Any signs of work, restitution ......
If it costs X$ to relocate, they need to work and generate X$ to repay. The county has plenty of work details at min wage that can help
mtv kid

Hillsville, VA

#48 Aug 2, 2012
is this why they are going close scottsville school??? give all the homeless help and not the kids so weird
frmr

Charlottesville, VA

#49 Aug 2, 2012
kindness inside wrote:
I have only read a few pages and saw a lot of negativity. Think of the positive! Imagine the positive influence this has on 9 homeless people. You want to say get a job, it will be infested. You are not in their shoes. You only jump to conclusions. The county is changing 9 lives for the positive. Don't complain. It is something positive. Do not send such negativity to these people. You do not know them, they deserve kindness!
Do you know them? Are you one of the 9?
Dude

Boyce, VA

#50 Aug 2, 2012
Yogi wrote:
And how are these homeless going to pay us back?
Any signs of work, restitution ......
If it costs X$ to relocate, they need to work and generate X$ to repay. The county has plenty of work details at min wage that can help
exactly, isn't it better for those who have healthy organs and can't afford to live to die, and have their organs harvested for those who can afford to destroy their organs, but create wealth?
Dude

Boyce, VA

#51 Aug 2, 2012
Yogi wrote:
And how are these homeless going to pay us back?
Any signs of work, restitution ......
If it costs X$ to relocate, they need to work and generate X$ to repay. The county has plenty of work details at min wage that can help
Some of them have useful organs... just a thought.
Dude

Boyce, VA

#52 Aug 2, 2012
frmr wrote:
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Do you know them? Are you one of the 9?
exactly, how is it my problem... let's cut out life saving organs and save wealth creators. Just think, Mickey Mantle could have lived for so manny more years being a productive autograph signer.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#53 Aug 3, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>exactly, isn't it better for those who have healthy organs and can't afford to live to die, and have their organs harvested for those who can afford to destroy their organs, but create wealth?
sarcastic socialist
JCS

Charlottesville, VA

#54 Aug 3, 2012
Free housing for these alcoholics and drug abusers? WTFO!
Dude

Boyce, VA

#55 Aug 3, 2012
heh wrote:
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sarcastic socialist
I don't know about socialist, but hyperbolic sarcasm is fun... and it makes for a good English parady.
Dude

Boyce, VA

#56 Aug 3, 2012
*parody
CvilleMechEngr

Charlottesville, VA

#57 Aug 3, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>If that's the case, I don't think it's appropriate for those who haven't lived here, and brought wealth and employment to this community to actually have to support them.
.
Let's just say, if you're a wealth creator you get to live here tax free for x amount of time. Though, what incentive would that create for those who are wealth creators that have lived here for x amount of time?
I see a difference. Those who choose to move here for employment or other opportunity presumably want to be contributing members of the community. They want to join. That means that if the community is trying to take care of their own members, then the new members will participate. My objection is to people who show up with their hand out and to people who remain dependent upon assistance while rejecting opportunities to learn marketable skills.

As to wealth creators getting to live here tax free: look at the arrangement offered to developers / job creators at the old MJH property.
starred

Charlottesville, VA

#58 Aug 3, 2012
You folks are so quick to judge. I happen to know one of the people who is receiving assistance, and she is a beautiful woman, who... wait for it... WORKS! Full time, very hard, and very well. But you know, when you only make minimum wage and have no family to help you out during a hard time, you need help. Do you really want homeless people living in tents? Lots of people who are employed have a hard time finding suitable housing. This program works.
Excited

Charlottesville, VA

#59 Aug 3, 2012
Dude wrote:
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With so many being cynical on this site, I seriously can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
No cynicism here. This is truly a great thing.
Lucky Red Pekker

Charlottesville, VA

#60 Aug 3, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Some of them have useful organs... just a thought.
No way ...shot liver, hepatitis and aids etc. Fertilizer maybe, useful organs, i doubt it.
Show me a sign this works

Charlottesville, VA

#61 Aug 4, 2012
Hey NBC29,
Please do a follow up story in one year letting us know how the 9 have fared.
How many have found a job, how many times and places have they applied for work, how many still need a place to live, how many times have they been arrested?
I'd like to know how well this program works.
Really, I'd like to be impressed but fear it is another handout program that accomplished little.
thinkingfree

Charlottesville, VA

#62 Aug 4, 2012
these 9 people have incomes,albeit Medicaid or SSI. they wouldn't have been considered if this were not true, so for the mean time we locals pay, later the state will pay, us again. the question is will these 9 repay the county for this or will they pocket the free rent.

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