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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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I do not think you understand, these old people do not leave the house. Some of them only do so to vote. They leave so rarely, demanding they go get an ID is a huge burden for them and they will likely just not vote instead. Thus your demands are disenfranchising them from voting. That is not the American way. Silver's argument of them mostly being democrats only point to this being something the republicans concocted to suppress the oppositions vote. It is as if you guys cannot win fairly. Thanks for posting with substance. |
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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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Voting is a right, attending a convention is not a right. Again, these demands are suppressing American rights. You cannot be a party that yells freedom like a chant and then withhold freedoms. The contradiction is glaring. It is kind of like Fox news claiming to be fair and balanced, when clearly they lean to the right. It is as if they feel if they yell 'fair and balanced' enough, people will just assume they are, even though they are not. That is a propaganda technique. |
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Since: Dec 11
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Mike, let's debate this one. My rebuttal. I think you're argument that these old people do not leave their house doesn't hold water. If they can get out to vote, then they, someone in their family or friend can make an appointment at the DMV, take them and have a photo ID made. This would take no more time than voting. After that, voting is a piece of cake. Workers at voting polls have made it so easy for the elderly and disabled to pull right up, a worker from the polling center comes out, asks for your name, address, etc, and gives the person the voting ballot. If a person cannot see well, or can't read they will read it to them. I think if our workers from the board of elections are this diligent in making sure voters are as comfortable with proper accommodations to vote, the least the voter can do is have an ID card. |
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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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The way you talk about it, I am surprised you are not advocating an ID chip be imbedded into a person at birth. |
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Mike, I don't anyone should ever have something imbedded into their person without their consent. No need going extreme when all anyone ever needs is a picture ID of themself. It's easy to acquire, cheap and far less extreme than you're trying to paint me as being. You know I'm right on having ID and there's little rebuttal you have. |
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oops* I don't think anyone should....
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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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You did not address my point of old people that do not leave the home.I give little rebuttal because I await your rebuttal of that point first. Why give several for you to just close your mind? If you cannot rebut my logic, I assume you have no good point to rebut my point. Thus my little rebuttal is one great point. And you "know you are right"? You do know how closed minded that sounds? Do you discount all chances that you have not thought of all possible arguments? |
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“Breaking the spell ” Since: Dec 10
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Sorry, I thought you said "I know I am right". No, I do not think you are right, because you have not even attempted to rebut my point. Why should I think you are correct if you cannot even rebut one point? |
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Excuse me Mike. I left out my point about old people not leaving their home. Mike, are you actually trying to convince me that old people only leave their homes every four years to vote? My gosh, that's sad to think family and friends of the elderly only muster up enough time to take the elderly to vote and then just leave them at the house. Are you stating that the elderly only feel well enough every 4 years to travel and that happens to fall at election time? That's the silliest argument I've ever heard. I see you're not around a lot of old people. If your claim is that it's a hardship to vote, then it must be heck for them to travel to various doctors' appointments. Somehow they manage to do it because as I mentioned about getting an ID, they're given a time for an appointment at the DMV just like a doctor's appointment, they go, they're seen and they go home. Mike, rest homes and retirement centers run their vans to voting centers, and even if voter ID is required, this won't be a problem, people have to have picture ID to live in these places. What don't you get that picture ID is more about safety than discrimination. |
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Mike, show me any possible arguments you have to show that requiring an ID to vote is discrimination. Ok, the only possible case I may see is that there is a "old people" witness protection program and we wouldn't want to jeopardize their whereabouts. |
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Bacon let me interject if I may.What if the people in question were going to mostly vote republican? Would you still be as concerned about them a all getting id? Also...how would you feel if Romney won the popular vote..and lost the electoral college?
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“Try” Since: May 12
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I don't know how to get ID for free.When you are down on your money then you are not going to be able to get ID.THAT'S discriminating against the poor.Bacon...am I unreasonable? If I am not thinking this through help me out.Your opinion is important to me.
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“Try” Since: May 12
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I don't want to debate politics by calling anyone who disagrees with me an idiot.I'm always willing to listen to countervailing opinions.
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NC Republicans passed the voter ID proposal but the Governor vetoed it. The veto over ride failed on this issue. You will NOT be required to present picture ID to vote in NC. Only 5 cases per million of voter ID fraud have occurred in NC in the last 10 years. The only extensive voter fraud occurring in NC in the last 10 years was in Caldwell County when REPUBLICANS were involved in extensive vote buying to get a sheriff elected dishonestly. That sheriff turned out to be as dishonest as his election.. There were convictions.
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What difference does it make? The people we are being force to vote for do not represent Americans only communists’ interest. It’s rigged.
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Waco, I'm not focused on the big picture of voting, therefore I don't see it as discrimination. The crux of my argument lies that everyone should have ID's for safety. There are still old people that are not hermits that travel, pay bills, use credit/bank cards and not just the old, all of us need someway to identify us if we're unable to articulate in a time of distress who we are, and where we're from. On the question of Romney winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college, we'll I guess I'd feel like he lost and we could be told daily/weekly/monthly how much better we're doing under Obama when statistics show otherwise, much as we're being told now. |
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TSF, I guess we won't have voter ID in N.C. Still doesn't make me change my mind that everyone should have ID. I think it's essential in this day and time. |
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Taxper, apparently someone that you wanted to run for president is not going to be on the ballot this election and we're all going to be forced to vote for the communist of our choice. As flawed as our system for electing officials in the U.S. may be to you, it's the only one we have. |
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“Arch Nemisis of Democrats” Since: Jun 12
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While I agree with Bacon's comments, how is it not having a valid ID not the American way?? That is like a rite of passage for most people, especially teen agers. I understand teenagers can not cast votes till 18, that is not an excuse for adults who are in their "golden" years. If being a responsible citizen of your respective state and the United States of America is disenfranchising because they feel it is a burden to get a valid ID in order to vote, then they can piss off. That is not the American way either. Why can a majority of Americans can follow the plan but a select few don't and become whiney pissbags because they think they are entitled to preferential treatment? The article did not target just the elderly either Mike. It was all encompassing. Holder brought the race issue to the fore front. Holy shit, is he a racist like me? Provocative indeed. |
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