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darylreg1
Richardson, TX
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I agree with No Use. The Smith family and friends want to keep pointing the finger of abuse at Kathie Briggs. If she was the abuser why was she killed at Raye's home and if she was abusing Kelsey why would she even say anything about Kelsey's abuse? Everyone saw abuse and if Raye didn't it was because she was too much into her man instead of being her role of GOOD MOMMY that she claimed to be!!!!!!!!!!
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Leslie
Oklahoma City, OK
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NOYB wrote: What ever or how ever he choices to dance around the issue, does not absolve him from the fact that the cause of Kelsey's death was murder and he failed her not once but twice and still no one was convicted of her murder. He may have told Michael Porter he believed that he murdered and sexually assulted Kelsey and believed him to be a liar but he knew he could not manz up to the job he should have done. Good job featherman. OMG....LMFAO, I totally agree!! You said it perfectly! Isnt that why he brought in Patty, cause he could not Manz Up???!!!
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amber
New Castle, PA
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There is where you got it wrong The Smith family and friends ARE NOT pointing the finger at The Briggs family.The only thing we are saying is that yes kelsey did get hurt in kathie care sometimes but kathie acts like kelsey ONLY got hurt in raye care when really it was kathie care also.We know MIke killed kelsey He raped and killed that little girl we know that and its time for the briggs to know that and leave raye alone darylreg1 wrote: I agree with No Use. The Smith family and friends want to keep pointing the finger of abuse at Kathie Briggs. If she was the abuser why was she killed at Raye's home and if she was abusing Kelsey why would she even say anything about Kelsey's abuse? Everyone saw abuse and if Raye didn't it was because she was too much into her man instead of being her role of GOOD MOMMY that she claimed to be!!!!!!!!!!
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just me
United States
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amber wrote: There is where you got it wrong The Smith family and friends ARE NOT pointing the finger at The Briggs family.The only thing we are saying is that yes kelsey did get hurt in kathie care sometimes but kathie acts like kelsey ONLY got hurt in raye care when really it was kathie care also.We know MIke killed kelsey He raped and killed that little girl we know that and its time for the briggs to know that and leave raye alone <quoted text> There is no proof that Kelsey was raped. The point is that Kelsey died in the care of RD and MP. I think they are both where they belong. I don't see the Briggs on here bashing RD, I don't see the Smith's on here bashing the Briggs. I see the supporters of both of these families bashing the supporters of the other family and that family itself. I am a Brigg's supporter but I do not get on here and just bash RD. If I have questions I ask them and if I have a statement then I make it. There is no need in all of this.
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cantbelieveallth is
Oklahoma City, OK
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just me wrote: <quoted text> There is no proof that Kelsey was raped. The point is that Kelsey died in the care of RD and MP. I think they are both where they belong. I don't see the Briggs on here bashing RD, I don't see the Smith's on here bashing the Briggs. I see the supporters of both of these families bashing the supporters of the other family and that family itself. I am a Brigg's supporter but I do not get on here and just bash RD. If I have questions I ask them and if I have a statement then I make it. There is no need in all of this. Have you read the 2nd autopy report Just me?
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just me
United States
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cantbelieveallthis wrote: <quoted text> Have you read the 2nd autopy report Just me? Yes I have. I just know that the medical examiners could agree if she was sexually abused or not. As for me personally, I truely don't know if she was or not. I just wish the whole truth would come out so this could be laid to rest. I would really like to know who did what and who knew what. I know I am not the only one who wishes this, but there is no way to know 100% what happened on that terrible day.
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Nadia
New Castle, PA
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oh shonya shut up.. i am sick and tierd of hearing your's and nouse's mouths
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Nadia
New Castle, PA
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Advocate4Kelsey wrote: <quoted text> You believe? Where did you get that information? I have "heard" of that as well, but I don't believe everything I hear! Do you have documentation and or proof of this supposed plea deal? Personally I don't believe in spanking a little baby at all. The D.A. had evidence that, that "spanking" caused significant injuries (just look at the pictures in the news reports of Kelsey's little bottom with several bruises and red prickly marks from Raye's hairbrush regarding this incident). The plea (if there was a plea) was punishment for the abuse of Kelsey in January 2005. Abuse that DHS confirmed against, Raye Dawn Smith. Prove Otherwise SFTT!!!!! you must believe everything you hear because you believe everything kathie has to say
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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Nadia wrote: oh shonya shut up.. i am sick and tierd of hearing your's and nouse's mouths You also most be sick and tired of the truth.
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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amber wrote: There is where you got it wrong The Smith family and friends ARE NOT pointing the finger at The Briggs family.The only thing we are saying is that yes kelsey did get hurt in kathie care sometimes but kathie acts like kelsey ONLY got hurt in raye care when really it was kathie care also.We know MIke killed kelsey He raped and killed that little girl we know that and its time for the briggs to know that and leave raye alone <quoted text> Raye allowed the abuse at best, and murdered Kelsey at worst. Kelsey was NOT injured with the Briggs, and even someone with your limited intellect can read that from the records.
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commonsense
United States
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wky wrote: the freekelseysmom site has posted all over it that the da in this case stated mike porter committed murder, they use the da's word.the da said mike porter did all of it and freekelseysmom uses that as a crutch, what now? i hope raye dawn smith does get a new trial and he uses the evidence that pointed at her. if she gets a new trial he will be the prosecuter, you probably shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you Well, nevermind the prosecuting attorney. Let's just hope Raye Dawn gets a smarter jury the second time around. You know, one with a little more COMMONSENSE!
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commonsense
United States
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amber wrote: There is where you got it wrong The Smith family and friends ARE NOT pointing the finger at The Briggs family.The only thing we are saying is that yes kelsey did get hurt in kathie care sometimes but kathie acts like kelsey ONLY got hurt in raye care when really it was kathie care also.We know MIke killed kelsey He raped and killed that little girl we know that and its time for the briggs to know that and leave raye alone <quoted text> Yea, I have to agree with you amber. I've heard a lot of finger pointing from the Briggs' but not from the Smiths. You can get a pretty good idea at who really hates who just by reading birth announcements and obituaries about Kelsey. The Briggs REALLY dislike the Smiths.
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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commonsense wrote: <quoted text>Yea, I have to agree with you amber. I've heard a lot of finger pointing from the Briggs' but not from the Smiths. You can get a pretty good idea at who really hates who just by reading birth announcements and obituaries about Kelsey. The Briggs REALLY dislike the Smiths. The Briggs were not the ones who filed the VPO, which necessitated two funerals. Read Raye Dawn's OSBI interviews, and take a look at the history of Gayla Smith.
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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commonsense wrote: <quoted text>Well, nevermind the prosecuting attorney. Let's just hope Raye Dawn gets a smarter jury the second time around. You know, one with a little more COMMONSENSE! Her appeal is going to be denied. And that is a FACT.
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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Oh, complete lack of common sense, show me how Kelsey was injured while in the care of Kathie Briggs. And, how does the Briggs family hate the Smiths? Kathie's daughter Jeanna is married to one of the Fowlers; Smith cousins.
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commonsense
United States
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KelseysVoice wrote: Oh, complete lack of common sense, show me how Kelsey was injured while in the care of Kathie Briggs. And, how does the Briggs family hate the Smiths? Kathie's daughter Jeanna is married to one of the Fowlers; Smith cousins. Settle down dumbo. Did I EVER say that Kelsey was injured while in Kathie Briggs' care? NO, I DID NOT. Where are you getting that imaginary fact from? Probably the same place you get all the rest of your IMAGINARY facts from. Clearly, the Briggs do not like the smiths. READ THE OBITUARY AND BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS WRITTEN BY THEM!
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commonsense
United States
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KelseysVoice wrote: <quoted text>The Briggs were not the ones who filed the VPO, which necessitated two funerals. Read Raye Dawn's OSBI interviews, and take a look at the history of Gayla Smith. I don't give a hoot about WHO filed what here. The Briggs' were purposely refusing to acknowledge the smiths in any way in either of those announcements. Hell, if I were the smiths, I'd want 2 funerals also!
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commonsense
United States
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Oh, wise one.... why don't you just tell me the "history of Gayla Smith", would you? You seem to know SO much about everything!
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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commonsense wrote: <quoted text>I don't give a hoot about WHO filed what here. The Briggs' were purposely refusing to acknowledge the smiths in any way in either of those announcements. Hell, if I were the smiths, I'd want 2 funerals also! Explain to me why the VPO was filed.
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KelseysVoice
Parsippany, NJ
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commonsense wrote: Oh, wise one.... why don't you just tell me the "history of Gayla Smith", would you? You seem to know SO much about everything! Gayla was Ray's second wife. Ray had three children from his first marriage. She quickly made sure that Ray changed his will to disinherit those children. This can be verified by checking into the court records. Guess who was the primary beneficiary? Read the letter from Debbie Hammons, who was married to Gayla's brother. And no, I didn't get it from the Briggs family. Gayla felt that her obligation to her children ended at high school graduation. When Raye Dawn returned home while pregnant with Kelsey, she was enraged. If Kelsey didn't take her nap immediately, Gayla would slap her. Follow up on this. It can all be verified.
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