ACLU files lawsuit over monument--Here We Go Again

The battle over a religious monument in a New Mexico city is getting more serious.

The ACLU of New Mexico filed a lawsuit against Bloomfield over the Ten Commandments monument on display on the lawn of city hall.

Really???? The ACLU is simply out to destroy Christianity in our nation, but they will not succeed.

NO, They would simply like the Constitution followed, as would I.

dpb wrote:

NO, They would simply like the Constitution followed, as would I.

Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision for separation of church and state.

Get That Fool wrote:

really - it must be a fragile thing.

More garbage from a communist org, the ACLU clueless.

The problem is we are putting up our symbols one city at a time. We should synchrinize and put up our symbols all over the country at the same time, and drown the ACLU in their own stupid paperwork.

dpb wrote:

NO, They would simply like the Constitution followed, as would I.

Okay, may I ask how you see that this violates the Constitution?

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion. Why does jesus need welfare money?

Get That Fool wrote:

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Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision for separation of church and state.

Government endorsement of religion is unconstitutional.

Knightmare wrote:

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Okay, may I ask how you see that this violates the Constitution?

First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The Supreme Court did not consider the question of how this applied to the states until 1947; when they did, in Everson v. Board of Education, all nine justices agreed that there was a wall of separation between church and state. Or, are you saying the 1st. Amendment isn't part of the Constitution?(snicker)

davy wrote:

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion. Why does jesus need welfare money?
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Congress isn't establishing anything here. What are you talking about?

davy wrote:

Government endorsement of religion is unconstitutional.
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Where does it say that?

dpb wrote:

First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The Supreme Court did not consider the question of how this applied to the states until 1947; when they did, in Everson v. Board of Education, all nine justices agreed that there was a wall of separation between church and state. Or, are you saying the 1st. Amendment isn't part of the Constitution?(snicker)

Are 'you' saying the 1st amendment isn't part of the constitution? "...or the free excercise thereof". If the city government wants this, why would the federal government prohibit it?

long as they give me free stuff an u work so i can get it, i don't care. suckers.

Because Tax $$$ from those who don't want the propaganda are used and the Local Gvmt. has no right to make it only a christian display ALL have the right then, and those placing the propaganda sure don't want anyone else to be there -- bigots towards other religions.

dpb wrote:

Because Tax $$$ from those who don't want the propaganda are used and the Local Gvmt. has no right to make it only a christian display ALL have the right then, and those placing the propaganda sure don't want anyone else to be there -- bigots towards other religions.

No federal tax dollars went into this. The federal government has no business here. BTW the Ten Commandments are a Jewish display, not a Christian one. Over the years it has become a 'universal' symbol for societal behaviors, so it certainly does apply.

1st amendment

Get That Fool wrote:

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Where does it say that?

"Federal courts have repeatedly affirmed that the First Amendment prohibits the government from promoting one religion over another, or even showing preference between religion and non-religion. In many cases, monuments on public property featuring the Ten Commandments have been ruled as unconstitutional.

As recently as 2009, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the Haskell County, Oklahoma to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the county courthouse grounds, saying that a “reasonable observer” would conclude that the monument was an endorsement of religion."

dpb wrote:

Because Tax $$$ from those who don't want the propaganda are used and the Local Gvmt. has no right to make it only a christian display ALL have the right then, and those placing the propaganda sure don't want anyone else to be there -- bigots towards other religions.

You could put up an atheist monument on April Fools Day, the well known atheist holiday. But then since atheists don't have anything to proclaim, other than blasting others, it would be a blank monument!

dpb wrote:

"Federal courts have repeatedly affirmed that the First Amendment prohibits the government from promoting one religion over another, or even showing preference between religion and non-religion. In many cases, monuments on public property featuring the Ten Commandments have been ruled as unconstitutional.
As recently as 2009, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the Haskell County, Oklahoma to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the county courthouse grounds, saying that a “reasonable observer” would conclude that the monument was an endorsement of religion."

Supreme Court Rules on the Ten Commandments display

The Supreme court has ruled that the Ten Commandments may be displayed outside on government property.

If you haven't noticed, Moses and the Ten Commandments are the centerpiece of the Supreme Court building.