Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Speaking of failures, what happened to Muq and Joel?

Frijoles wrote:

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The incompetent Obama Presidency

Frijoles wrote:

Speaking of failures, what happened to Muq and Joel?

They're working in Chicago for ACORN, until Obama returns in January.

tegods wrote:

Like I said, I don't disagree that there is a Supreme Being, but I don't believe that we undertand 'em. Not through these man written books and not through blind faith. You just had trouble explaining to me the how or what or who of God. Seems simple enough. Be the best person that you can be, if when your tme comes it's not enough, then you could have never done enough.
Peace.
Control those things within your grasp and let go of those outside of your perview.

rabbee: what do you mean: "we"? since i can't agree, with you on that. you should never assume with and all inclusive "we", that some one else does not understand G-D. for i have been accomplishing, what even einstein could not accomplish. knowing how G-D, thinks.

even if it is, like a childs understanding of a parent/s. it is still a better understanding of G-D, than anyone else in the world today. no one on earth understands G-D, more than i do. there not even close, and i am not sure they even really care.

-----"We" is the royal, general we, human beings in general

since i can't agree, with you on that. you should never assume with and all inclusive "we", that some one else does not understand G-D.

-----I am not assuming that you don't understand God, I think you believe that you understand something, that which you call God. How well you understand it is yet to be seen and can easily be uncovered by answering simple questions. What does God look like? What did he/she tell you? How did you come to interact with God? Was it in person or a spiritual trance? How do you know that what you encountered was God and not an anti-god? When did you find that you truly understood God? How can you prove what you claim? You see, a simple "cause God told me so" doesn't buy much or give you much credibility. How do you establish the credibility so that we, the ones who don't understand, can understand?

What are you accomplishing the Einstein did not? Not 100 percent sure he was the genius that we all believe he was. He worked in the patent office and you could certainly borrow ideas from what you read and get to a point where you say, "now what, how do I finish this". I prefer to look at Nikola Tesla as the tru genius. So, tell me about what you have accomplished that the great one failed to accomplish.

So, you told me not to lump everyone together, yet you choose to lump everyone else into their lack of understanding of God? Work with me here buddy.

I will repeat myself, I am pretty sure that you believe that you understand something, that which you call God, but you cannot be sure and you have difficulty showing proof. I'll say that my understanding of God may not be like yours, but I may be looking at the same thing from 180 degrees out. In my mind, there is a Supreme Being, what that being is, what that being looks like, where that being is? I cannot say, because honestly I do not know and do not expect to ever know.

Like I said before, when your time comes and God asks you what you've done in your lifetime. Hopefully your answer is not "I know God better than everyone". I'd hope that your answer would be, "I've done this for humanity ..." Or "I had a family ..". "I lived aa full life"

Then again, if meditating all day long and blogging about being the godliest person on the planet floats your boat, have at it. I am not convinced that you understand God.

hillbillyboy wrote:

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You certainly are showing a vile spirit. Never the less, that others may learn, I shall present some evidence (From Jewish sources) which oppose your teaching.
But you wont know what it is unless you open up the link.
Rabbinical Judaism Accepts Christian ...- biblestudying.net
www.biblestudying.net/rabbinic4.html
If you dont open up the link and read it, I hope someone else does. Its open for all to see.

just because a site is flaunted with the word rabbinic in it, does not mean that the agenda is one of presenting nominal judaism.

I explained my reasons, that you did not even address, or rather acknowledged.

MAAT wrote:

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just because a site is flaunted with the word rabbinic in it, does not mean that the agenda is one of presenting nominal judaism.
I explained my reasons, that you did not even address, or rather acknowledged.

Cluless flock at that website.

tegods wrote:

-----"We" is the royal, general we, human beings in general
since i can't agree, with you on that. you should never assume with and all inclusive "we", that some one else does not understand G-D.
-----I am not assuming that you don't understand God, I think you believe that you understand something, that which you call God. How well you understand it is yet to be seen and can easily be uncovered by answering simple questions. What does God look like? What did he/she tell you? How did you come to interact with God? Was it in person or a spiritual trance? How do you know that what you encountered was God and not an anti-god? When did you find that you truly understood God? How can you prove what you claim? You see, a simple "cause God told me so" doesn't buy much or give you much credibility. How do you establish the credibility so that we, the ones who don't understand, can understand?
What are you accomplishing the Einstein did not? Not 100 percent sure he was the genius that we all believe he was. He worked in the patent office and you could certainly borrow ideas from what you read and get to a point where you say, "now what, how do I finish this". I prefer to look at Nikola Tesla as the tru genius. So, tell me about what you have accomplished that the great one failed to accomplish.
So, you told me not to lump everyone together, yet you choose to lump everyone else into their lack of understanding of God? Work with me here buddy.
I will repeat myself, I am pretty sure that you believe that you understand something, that which you call God, but you cannot be sure and you have difficulty showing proof. I'll say that my understanding of God may not be like yours, but I may be looking at the same thing from 180 degrees out. In my mind, there is a Supreme Being, what that being is, what that being looks like, where that being is? I cannot say, because honestly I do not know and do not expect to ever know.
Like I said before, when your time comes and God asks you what you've done in your lifetime. Hopefully your answer is not "I know God better than everyone". I'd hope that your answer would be, "I've done this for humanity ..." Or "I had a family ..". "I lived aa full life"
Then again, if meditating all day long and blogging about being the godliest person on the planet floats your boat, have at it. I am not convinced that you understand God.

rabbee: well are you disappointed, or angry, or trying to hide from running into TheOnePerson here in scripture that cannot agree with your "we" "we". when there is no mystery, about my being here on earth again. other that the mythologicial mystery, the world tries to make of it.

and have you ever noticed, there is a difference between "i know", and "i believe". when the "i believe", is faith based opinion, and the "i know" is by logical factual observation.

and now you ask me, to repeat everyting G-D, came and said to me. and then again came and gave to me to say for the past 20 years about the past sixty years and ever increasing? when it is already, pre-recorded in Scripture about these re-occuring mettings of G-D and Adam here in TheLivingTorah.

when it is even forever pre-recorded in Scripture, that G-D always comes to speak to me about "the woman" and all of the her grandcildren. do you really expect G-D, to change any of this all happening in scripture? in this world that has refused to make any changes in their mental free will attitude? the world that is making all the same old mistakes agaist G-D, and expecting different results.

do you really think, i can tell you everything i know about G-D, in the next 330 charachters?

even if i tell you, i know we are all here in TheTorah G-D is again giving. then i already know more about G-D, actually here in TheTorah. than the whole world put together, by the beast against HIM, again here in TheTorah actually in TheHappening.

for not even the jews, believe in TheG-D. actually here in TheTorah, actually in TheHappening. for even they are worshiping, the subtle beast of their own jewish fields.

thus no different than the iranians are worshiping, their own subtle beast of their own iranian fields.

for the whole world, is following, their own national religious beasts, or other particular beast of their own religious fields. yet all reporting to the same old more subtle, than anyother beasts of the fields.

it i their job to decieve you, with their not here in TheTorah religions. but it is not your jobs, to help them get away with this again. for alas again, it is too late to prevent that same old devil from decieving the grandmother of this world, actually here in TheTorah again. as you all are aiding and abeting that same old devil, that keeps you all from entering GanEden just again.

it is their job to decieve you,

if you believe we are not here in TheTorah, G-D is again giving to you. with adam and his mate, really here in TheTorah again. then you have all been conned, by that same old devil of devils again.

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Cluless flock at that website.

You did not answer why Proverbs 31:2 also has the aramaic word "bar" used to mean "son" as well as the Psalm?

..."What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?"...Proverbs 31:2

You have already stated that the word bar means "purity" in Hebrew, and that we should reject the aramaic translation.

So, lets use that word bar in Proverbs 21:2 (with your translation) and see how it reads. And then we will add some supporting text with verses 3 and 4. Watch how silly the translation becomes when we use your meaning...

"What, purity, and what, purity of my womb, and what, the purity of my vows?
Give not thy strength unto women, Nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.
It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:"

So, simply inserting the Hebrew meaning for the aramaic word, just dont work in that scriptures, does it?

(BTW...Does one have to remind "purity" to avoid giving itself to drink and women? Why is purity then, called the male name "Lemuel" in verse 4?)

So, the only thing we can conclude from this text, is that the word bar in the scriptures here, mean son, and not purity.

Neither should we accept your take on Palm 2. That is because the scope of the Psalm is set here by verse 2.

..."The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One."...Psalm 2:2

It is a Messianic Prophecy. It is about the relationship between God and his Messiah. Anyone doubt this still?

I can recommend a good website:

Does Psalm 2:12 really say "kiss the son"?
www.brithadasha.org/brit/index.php... .

BTW, does anybody here deny that Psalm 2 is a Messianic Psalm? It does specifically mention the Messiah after all.

but if the grandmother of all, on earth is an alleged as a jew*. then so are, all of you allegedly.

since G-D has removed, any doubt, that she is not a grandaughter of Avraham and Sarah from me. just like G-D, came and said to me while i am acually here in TheLivingTorah being given from HIM Aaagain.

and it was by no accident here in TheTorah again, That I just got caught up in G-D. but is forever predeemed that G-D, always comes to tell TheHisSon adam about the woman, the day the sky always falls on adam for about half an hour.

with G-D always coming to speak, to TheHisSon adam in TheTorah. the little male child, whose worldly given name, is not adam.

chicken little jimmie who has not a clue, what is about to happen. in this unprepared world again, that has not prepared him for this day in TheTorah.

with TheComing of G-D, and Angels and angels all over the place. and funny looking, and sounding trumpets too. and TheAngel, Who hates shoes and socks. as all of physical totality, comes to a still for about half an hour.

"Behold! on this very hour of this very day. the father of your family, your country, and your world has again, commited a great, great, great sin against I-Am."

tom wrote:

<quoted text> The incompetent Obama Presidency

you are definitely failing

you are on the wrong thread

what is actually written in The Torah. is going to happen, again, again, again, and agains. untill we all quit clowing around, with the not here in TheTorah devils, forever and always physically here in TheTorah agains'es. and what you see, in TheWritten Torah, is what you actually always get for your all refusing to be here in IT all from G-D.

you have all aided and abeted, the same old devil again to not prepare my bride with TheTorah, actually here in TheTorah again.

it is this worlds error, pretending to not be here in TheTorah with the subtle beasts. it is your job to correct that attitude, or go beyond this hell we are all getting today for this, and into oblivion.

even the horror of our world history, shall not change. till we change our mental attitude, all no against G-D here in TheTorah Happening. not even the sinking of the titanic, or Lusitania, shall ever be changed, untill we do for G-D. and we are not here in TheTorah, responsible for all those deaths too.

Rabbee,

I am still failing to see any proof that you are not just babbling. I have to ask a silly question. Why do you repeat here in TheTorah over and over. What are you meaning to say there that I am missing. I'm giving this some open-mindedness and will let you lead me down a rabbit hole until I see holes. If I see holes I will poke at the holes. What I took from all the prior babble is that we commit the same mistakes over and over. Yes, we are human and were purposefully made imperfect. The world will stop for an hour? My thoughts are that the world will cease to rotate for a short time as a large mass, a planet or some heavenly object comes by the earth. This should cause great catastrophies on earth. Volcanic erruptions, techtonic activity, floods like in the Bible, mass death. These items don't seem so mysterious. You have a very large system of sytems of planets, galaxies, universes and dimensions that at some point they must cross. As a living man/woman/it, what do you feel can be done to unchanged huumanity? In my mind, these are cycles that we go through. No amount of praying, meditating or whinning is gonna change the cycle. You talk about the angels, I compare those coming from the skies to gods, aliens or some kind of unearthly being. Assuming they are intelligent, more than us, they are aliens by all definition. Putting things into the modern language to simplify things might help your argument. You see, when you talk about TheHeShe held you, TheTorah, very hard to make the connections or figure out what you are talking about. The genius does not seem to be showing easily. Again, explain to me why you cannot answer the questions that I've asked? I don't get it. Someone who has been having meetings with God and the angels over the past 20 yrs should easily answer simple questions. Is it that simple is not simple but complex? How old are you Rabbee? What's your favorite color? Where do you live? How long have you believed what you believe? At what age did this happen to you? What is your background? Really trying to stretch my mind here. You mentioned blind faith and concrete evidence. So far I've seen nothing but blind faith. No evidence. Lots of rambling. Talk to me Rabbee. It's not that I cannot see it, it's not that I don't want to see it, it's that you are failing to show it.

(Jer. 23) 16This is what the Lord Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. 21I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied. 22But if they had stood in my counsel, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds!"

Beware of false prophets! Rabbee