Failure to Obtain Trash

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fathercb wrote:

Hey Geek, thought so, and of course,your another lame hit and run.

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>> Nonsense. Many boomers were warning of the consequences of actions. Every generation has some people with "brilliant ideas" that turn out to be bad decisions and there are usually others who warned of the possible consequences.
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>> As I explained but you missed the point, you are generalizing about a whole group of people. Sure there were a lot of boomers who were clueless and running amok. There are plenty of those kind of people in every generation. Are you saying your generation made no mistakes?
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>> You are obviously VERY confused and not looking at the facts.
How about almost every electronic gadget you currently use was the result of inventors, engineers and scientists of the boomer generation.
Go look at where technology was 35 years ago.If you think the salad shooter is the extent of the inventions created by the boomer generation, you are completely and utterly clueless. Just because a lot of technology was around before you were born does not mean it was always here.
Here is just the tip of the iceberg...
http://www.secondact.com/2010/12/baby-boomer-...
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>> No, we are not talking about race. I never said anything about segregation being gone. I merely said that it was accepted as the way things should be done by generations prior to the boomers.
Some people, including many much younger than boomers, still believe segregation is a good answer to race relations.(Before you "assume" anything, I assure you I do not see segregation as a viable solution to anything.)
You assume much.
What kind of limited thinking does one use that assumes that only "generalizations, prejudices and ignorance" can be applied to blacks or women?
You have generalized about the boomers.
You have demonstrated that you have prejudged a majority of an entire group of people in the boomers.
It is very clear you are ignorant about the accomplishments of the boomer generation.
I think that covers the terms.
By the way, the country was segregated legally until 1964. Boomers are defined as people born from 1946 and 1964. In 1964 most of the boomers were children and teens. Segregation had nothing to do with the boomers, it was the previous generations that perpetuated and finally ended segregation. But just passing a law did not make segregation go away nor did the 14th amendment make everyone think differently or magically erase all racial bias.
The fact is, there are plenty of prejudiced people who are clearly younger than the boomers. So racial bias is not something the boomers invented nor was it something they alone perpetuated.
If I were using your sort of thinking, I might base my entire view of younger generations on the few idiots within the group.
I know better because in the 60's we learned that it is not about the color of skin or the cut of the cloth, it is about character.

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Reverend Vegas wrote:

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I'm not here to have a pissing match. From my generation to yours...many of us feel that your generation left us a skeleton of a great country.....picked to death by vultures.
I'm VERY saddened and disappointed by what I see going on now.
Things could get ugly...I would suggest honing your survival skills now. In case we can't rely on all these great corporations to supply us with chemical tainted food...Get a good supply of seed..They'll be a form of currency as they have throughout history.
It will be our generation that pulls us out of this ditch...you better hope....or we're all F&ck&d! Especially you...

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Fathercb wrote:

Alice, first of all Im glad I got your dander up! Now that your pumped maybe you"ll settle down a bit while I review.
In a civil society we have a Constitution, bill of rights and legislators that make laws. I would refer you to the Missouri Constitution Article III Section 21 under Legislative Proceedings it clearly defines our process for enacting laws. We should obey laws.
Now that you have read the Section 21 and you understand legislative proceedings it should be clear to you that ordinances are not laws.
I would refer you to RSMo 71.010 Concerning Ordinances, "Municipal corporations of this state (Alice, notice the word corporation)
whether under general or special charter, and having authority (Alice, notice it says having authority) to pass ordinances regulating subjects, matters and things upon which there is a general law of the state, unless otherwise prescribed or authorized by some special provision of its charter, shall confine and restrict its jurisdiction and the passage of its ordinances to and in conformity with the state law upon the same subject."
Alice there is a lot to chew on in the above paragraph. I could explain this to you in detail but you wouldn't read it anyway. Lets just take the easy part...Florissant is a corporation, no different than Hardees, the short of that, I don't do what Hardess tells me to do either. Another point you mentioned, you declared yourself a citizen (I'm supposing of Florissant), if thats the case maybe you do have to obey ordinances. I don't think you truly understand the law, and the consequences of the rights you so easily surrender.
You keep referring to harm created by another to another. Alice, I agree, I do not disagree. If I harm you, seek remedy that dear is what real law is all about. If I harm you, you should be able to seek and receive remedy. Like I said and you have not explained, where ever my garbage is going it truly is none of your business, just because your scared about what I might do with it... well Im sorry your scared, but you can't go around making people do things just because your scared, when others have a right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Personally, I don't vote, thats neither here nor there, but I can tell you this, there is an over abundance Law, Case Law and Rulings that support the fact that just because a bunch of people get together and declare this or that, doesn't make it law, and I do not have to obey.
As far as moving, I think all the people that believe they can go around telling me what I can and cannot do, their the ones that ought to move and hopefully to another country. For myself Alice, I choose to stay and protect the rights and liberties of my family, my friends and Alice!

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fathercb wrote:

OK, so here we go! It has been some time now, several court appearances. It seems as though Florissant has violated a lot of Due Process of Law issues. Right...of course they LOST...Again there is no law requiring people to obtain trash!!
The prosecutor carries gold jewerly all over wears a thousand dollar suit and not one hair on his head is out of place, yet he can't beat a construction guy in blue jeans. Why?? Because there is NO LAW REQUIRING PEOPLE TO HAVE TRASH SERVICE!!! You lost people out there better hope there is not one either.
Now, I wonder how much money Florissant spent trying to defend such a stupid action, how much of your taxpayer money did they spend. Here is another thing. Because they violated my rights to due process, including kidnapping and malioucious prosecution, I can sue them twice, once in civil court and also in Federal court, stripping the people of more funds.
Although I am not about to let someone trample over my rights to exist freely and with liberty, I probably will not sue. I am a Christian and do not believe that suing is a christian thing to do. However, this does require Florissant to complete a few actions, minor but required. Hopefully, I will not have to sue, we will see.
For those of you that have followed this post and have concern for your liberties, instead of suing I am going to teach constitutional and constructive law in seminar style for the cost of materials only structure mainly for the poor and uninformed. Defense in court is really something a six grader can do, it is a shame it is not taught in school.
For those of you that understand defending our rights is important, thank you. For those of you that have no interest in defending your liberties, good luck being policed.

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fathercb wrote:

OK, so here we go! It has been some time now, several court appearances. It seems as though Florissant has violated a lot of Due Process of Law issues. Right...of course they LOST...Again there is no law requiring people to obtain trash!!
The prosecutor carries gold jewerly all over wears a thousand dollar suit and not one hair on his head is out of place, yet he can't beat a construction guy in blue jeans. Why?? Because there is NO LAW REQUIRING PEOPLE TO HAVE TRASH SERVICE!!! You lost people out there better hope there is not one either.
Now, I wonder how much money Florissant spent trying to defend such a stupid action, how much of your taxpayer money did they spend. Here is another thing. Because they violated my rights to due process, including kidnapping and malioucious prosecution, I can sue them twice, once in civil court and also in Federal court, stripping the people of more funds.
Although I am not about to let someone trample over my rights to exist freely and with liberty, I probably will not sue. I am a Christian and do not believe that suing is a christian thing to do. However, this does require Florissant to complete a few actions, minor but required. Hopefully, I will not have to sue, we will see.
For those of you that have followed this post and have concern for your liberties, instead of suing I am going to teach constitutional and constructive law in seminar style for the cost of materials only structure mainly for the poor and uninformed. Defense in court is really something a six grader can do, it is a shame it is not taught in school.
For those of you that understand defending our rights is important, thank you. For those of you that have no interest in defending your liberties, good luck being policed.

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Reality Bites wrote:

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You post is full of errors and misconceptions. Your thinking is somewhat irrational.
You sound like an angry person. But that is not surprising. Usually people who are not too bright and uninformed get confused and angry because the world looks hostile and chaotic to them.
We live in a complex society with a great many other people.
We must all make concessions to co-exist peacefully.
Rules and regulations are part of those concessions.
You have the right to stand up in your boat and rock it and fall out and get wet or drown.
But you don't have that right when you are in a life boat with many others whose health and peace of mind depend on cooperation and concessions.
You say you are a "Christian".
I suggest you pray.
Maybe God won't solve your issues with being told you must have trash service but the meditation of praying may help calm you.

House wrote:

Agenda 21...guns and religion...Obama?
fatherCB and Oh Thanks are just a couple of angry tea party morons. Just couple more chit for brains.
You boys jump to conclusions and rant like you have mad cow disease. I'd laugh but it's not polite to laugh at the mental illness!

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St. Louis County has an ordinance in place, that does require all residential property owners to provide waste services. It is a St. Louis County Ordinance, that also regulates all 90 municipalities to do the same. It is enforceable. St. Louis County holds trash courts. Each Muni can enforce their own, but, the county ordinance overpowers muni ordinance.

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fathercb wrote:

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I read stuff like this and I am astounded!

fathercb wrote:

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Where do these thoughts come from?

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Are the people so lost?

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The founding fathers are turning over in there graves.

fathercb wrote:

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First and foremost-There is NO LAW requiring anyone to have trash service. Just because a bunch of goons get together and say so doesn't make it law.

fathercb wrote:

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THERE IS NO CRIME UNLESS THERE IS AN INJURED PARTY. Fact of Law!

fathercb wrote:

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It has nothing to due with guns or tea or irrationality or having to much time. It has everything to due with the children and grand childeren and how much freedom we want them to enjoy! So I bring this post to the top again, HA!