sexual liberation

NAMBLA And
Homosexual Activism
Pedophiles And Homosexual Activists Push For Total Sexual Liberation
In August, 2003, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit against the state of Kansas over the state's criminal sodomy law involving children. The ACLU is defending Matthew Limon, a homosexual who committed sodomy against a 14-year-old boy in 2000. At the time of his crime, Simon was 18 years old. The ACLU is claiming that Limon's conviction is unconstitutionally discriminatory because the penalties for sodomy with a minor are different than for heterosexual sex with a minor.
Kansas Attorney General Phill KIine says the fairness of Limon's sentence should be a state legislative issue, not a constitutional one. According to Kline, "If the ACLU wins in the thrust of their arguments, it means the state has no right to say that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a 13-year-old child." Kline also fears that an ACLU victory will make it difficult for the state to enforce laws against polygamy, incest, bestiality, and other sexual perversions.
The effort to abolish "age of consent" laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."
In September, 1995, three homosexual activists published an essay entitled, "The State Of Gay Liberation" in Guide, a homosexual publication. The essay was authored by North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) co-founder David Thorstad, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Professor Richard D. Mohr, and San Francisco journalist Bruce Mirken.
Thorstad, of course, is a life-long pederast and homosexual activist who clearly describes the important linkage between homosexuality and pedophilia. In a speech given before a homosexual group in Mexico in 1998, Thorstad said: "Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization-and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture-ancient Greece and the Renaissance." (David Thorstad, "Pederasty And Homosexuality," NAMBLA web site)

Fellow author Professor Richard Mohr, is a homosexual activist who is an advocate for same-sex marriage and has said he hopes that homosexual marriage will help define "monogamy" out of marriage altogether.(Stanley Kurtz, "Beyond Gay Marriage," The Weekly Standard, Aug. 4-11, 2003)
Bruce Mirken is a homosexual and San Francisco journalist who was arrested in 1998 for attempting to have sex with a 13-year-old boy he had contacted through the Internet. When he entered a Sacramento park to sodomize the boy, he was met by police who had been tracking his activities on the Internet. The charges were eventually dropped against him on a technicality.
Sexual Liberation For Children
Thorstad and Professor Mohr want sexual liberation for children and Mirken believes that AIDS activism is what will help perpetuate and strengthen the homosexual movement.
According to David Thorstad, in "The State Of Gay Liberation," homosexuals must get back to a "radical vision of sexual freedom for all. We need to reaffirm our place in the great variety of same-sex behaviors that exist-have always existed-in human societies. We dare not allow our homosexual gift to be alienated from us by the limited vision, stifling political correctness, and erotophobic provincialism." In short, homosexuals should openly support the promotion of adult/child sex!
Professor Mohr argues that the use of "gay youth" is a key to gaining political and cultural victories in the U.S. He writes: "...these brave youth are key to culture's change on gay issues. Thanks to them, increasingly people know someone for whom being gay is an issue. Thanks to them the gay movement is achieving critical mass." Bruce Mirken claims that radical AIDS activism is what will save the homosexual movement from decline.
The effort to push adult/child sex isn't limited to these three homosexual activists. It is part of the overall homosexual movement. As author Mary Eberstadt wrote in "Pedophilia Chic: Reconsidered" in The Weekly Standard,(Jan. 1, 2001): "The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this 'question,' settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement." Eberstadt notes that as the homosexual movement becomes more mainstream, this "question" about adult/child sex will become more prominent. Homosexuals who desire sex with children will do exactly what the ACLU is doing in Kansas: Destroy all laws banning sex between adults and children.

buddy_christ wrote:

Fellow author Professor Richard Mohr, is a homosexual activist who is an advocate for same-sex marriage and has said he hopes that homosexual marriage will help define "monogamy" out of marriage altogether.(Stanley Kurtz, "Beyond Gay Marriage," The Weekly Standard, Aug. 4-11, 2003)

Buddy, I've been gay for just shy of 36 years now, and I swear, I have never heard of nor read a gay publication named "Guide", unless you count TV Guide which is, arguably, rather queer.

I have, of course, heard of NAMBLA and if you've studied gay culture as you apparently spend A LOT of time doing, you know that they are SHUNNED BY THE GAY COMMUNITY. Gay culture does NOT advocate sex between adults and minors. Gay people are quite vocal in their protests against child abuse.

There is a HUGE difference between pedophiles, who destroy a child's innocence, and two consenting adults.

Please, as an apparently somewhat intelligent adult, do NOT include NAMBLA into the gay community. They are pedophiles attempting to hide under our umbrella of inclusion and tolerance and are NOT WELCOME.

I, for one, am all for the laws in Louisiana and Mississippi which have made child molestation a capital crime.

For the record, I haven't had sex with a minor since I was one, and don't know anyone else who has, either.

Unless you count the straight men I know who raped younger female family members and got away with it.

Damn, Buddy. Just, damn.

I Used To Be wrote:

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Buddy, I've been gay for just shy of 36 years now, and I swear, I have never heard of nor read a gay publication named "Guide", unless you count TV Guide which is, arguably, rather queer.
I have, of course, heard of NAMBLA and if you've studied gay culture as you apparently spend A LOT of time doing, you know that they are SHUNNED BY THE GAY COMMUNITY. Gay culture does NOT advocate sex between adults and minors. Gay people are quite vocal in their protests against child abuse.
There is a HUGE difference between pedophiles, who destroy a child's innocence, and two consenting adults.
Please, as an apparently somewhat intelligent adult, do NOT include NAMBLA into the gay community. They are pedophiles attempting to hide under our umbrella of inclusion and tolerance and are NOT WELCOME.
I, for one, am all for the laws in Louisiana and Mississippi which have made child molestation a capital crime.
For the record, I haven't had sex with a minor since I was one, and don't know anyone else who has, either.
Unless you count the straight men I know who raped younger female family members and got away with it.
Damn, Buddy. Just, damn.

The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."

buddy_christ wrote:

<quoted text>The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."

Okay, I had to work on this one. I can find no legitimate gay organization referencing this document that is as old as I am, other than in an historical context.
I did, however, find this:
In 1994 the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) adopted a “Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA” saying GLAAD “deplores the North American Man Boy Love Association’s (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD.” Also in 1994 the Board of Directors of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) adopted a resolution on NAMBLA that said:“NGLTF condemns all abuse of minors, both sexual and any other kind, perpetrated by adults. Accordingly, NGLTF condemns the organizational goals of NAMBLA and any other such organization.”
So, Buddy, if it's so important to you that you prove it's okay to have sex with minors, maybe you're the one with the problem - not us queers.

I Used To Be wrote:

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So, Buddy, if it's so important to you that you prove it's okay to have sex with minors, maybe you're the one with the problem - not us queers.

who's trying to prove that it's o.k. to have sex with kids. i'm just state'n the facts man, just state'n the facts

Parents in Deerfield, Ill., are upset that a local high school is using books in advanced English classes this spring that they say are laced with graphic sexual content, pervasive expletives and mockery of religion.

Worse, the books - "Angels in America: A Gay Fantasia on National Themes (Parts 1 & 2)" - are required reading for advanced placement English students at Deerfield High School, but a parents' group wants them removed.

"Who would have ever thought that we would be handing out pornography in public schools?" asked Lora Sue Hauser, executive director of North Shore Student Advocacy, and a Deerfield parent.

"The fact that this was required is even more astonishing," she told Cybercast News Service.

Hauser cites numerous examples of offensive passages from the text, including the following:

Man: What do you want?
Louis: I want you to f*** me, hurt me, make me bleed.
Man: I want to.
Louis: Yeah?
Man: I want to hurt you.
Louis: F*** me.
Man: Yeah.
Louis: Hard?
Man: Yeah. You been a bad boy?

(They begin to f***.)

(Louis slips his hand down the front of Joe's pants. They embrace more tightly. Louis pulls his hand out, smells and tastes his fingers, and then holds them for Joe to smell ... they kiss again.)

We hope this was not the first thing Jeffrey and Jesse saw as they entered Heaven. Tell the boys it's just a Gay Pride thing, and nothing personal.
This Memorial is not put up to offend, but to set the record straight lest we forget that freedom is always in danger when knowledge is suppressed.
The deaths of two boys, Jesse Dirkhising and Jeffrey Curley, has proven without a doubt that liberal managing editors of newspapers across this country no longer trust you to be able to make the right decisions for America. They instead want to make these decisions for you by suppressing stories they don't want you to know about.
If you remember, newspaper and television networks went out-of-their way to expose the abuses of several priests within the Catholic Church on young boys, the church having to pay tens of millions of dollars in retributions to many of their victims, some who were now adults.
Yet these same media outlets not only never called upon GLAAD to explain the abuses set upon the above two teenage boys by gay men, but never printed for the public their original stories and the heinous ways in which they were murdered. The priests who were caught at least never tired to kill their victims, while these gay men not only killed them, but did unspeakable deviant acts to the bodies of these young boys while taking away their civil rights.

American parents across the country need to begin to finally feel the pain for the parents of these two teenagers, because the media did not ... and will not. These gay murderers forced objects into Jesse's bodily openings causing unconscionable and excruciating pain until he was dead. Then in some weird gay act his killers defecated on his body, which was tied down by duct tape to a mattress on the floor.
Little Jeffrey, on the other hand, was sat upon by his adult gay attacker in the back of the attacker's car, a rag filled with gasoline held against the young boy's face until the ten-year old was dead. It was alleged from the killer's diary that the gay man took the corpse back to his apartment and "played with it."
How could this not be reported across a nation in a world of Elizabeth Smart abductions? To answer that, you might want to also ask how could six-million Jews could be so horrifically murdered by intellectuals and elitists who enjoyed fine art, expensive wines, and classical music?
These things happen only when political correctness is allowed to run amuck supported by educated intellectuals who think they know what's best for you, as they openly exhibited in their actions in Nazi Germany, and now more recently in the United States starting around two decades ago.
GLAAD's national PR representative in 1999, and only a few months after Jesse's murder, openly bragged to a joyous membership that GLAAD now owned the presses, reporting six years ago that GLAAD had 1,500 member journalists infiltrated into press rooms across the United States, and no longer did journalist need to get the other side of gay stories.
And managing editors across the country said nothing ... because it was true.

Amazing that you left out the part that "Angels in America" won numerous Tonys, Emmys and... what was that other one?

Oh, yeah. The Nobel Prize for Literature.

If you read more than that crazy crap you keep repeating on here, you'd also know that the book is optional reading in Deerfield.

Look, dimwit, either get it right, or shut up.

That's why when anyone dared to ask why the news stories on Jesse and Jeffrey were suppressed by the media, GLAAD immediately stepped in calling these people "homophobic," just like the Nazis had labeled those Germans who questioned the arrest of their Jewish friends as "sympathizers."
Yet the media readily printed GLAAD's press releases on the matter of the suppression of Jesse's story, the elitists of the Star Ledger of New Jersey actually pointing to this GLAAD press release and saying it was proof Jesse Dirkhising's name had appeared in their paper.
With the murders of Jesse and Jeffrey, you have been lied to by the media with your right-to-know trampled upon. And if you remember anything, remember this! When you contact your managing editor, you're almost always communicating to a supporter of GLAAD, NAMBLA, or the ACLU.
You can click below and read the details of the murders of these two boys along with the police report on Jesse's death. And while George Soro and the ACLU support Air America and other liberal media outlets that criticize Fox News, they do so because Fox News will not jump onto their propaganda bandwagon and join them in deceiving the American people.
It was only Fox News that was interested enough in Jesse's death to cover the trials of Jesse's murderers, where in contrast the ACLU actually joined with NAMBLA against Jeffrey's parents, who had only wanted NAMBLA's site taken down simply to protect other young boys from being murdered.
The ACLU said it was a critical free speech issue. Jeffrey's murderer, in a report had said it was NAMBLA's material that had helped him in killing the young boy. This suit has now been going on for over four years, with the ACLU continuing to side with NAMBLA pro-bono. The courts obviously have no interest in causing problems for the ACLU or NAMBLA, seeming to hope the matter will go away.The one mistake the Jews made was to do nothing while Germany was being taken over by pariahs and deviate German citizens in the late 1920s.

They sadly discovered there was a tipping point of no return, paying heavily for that mistake. Without America's military and its Allies finally coming to the rescue of the Jews in 1945, those remaining in camps would have wiped off the face of the earth by their politically-correct elitist murderers.
If you believe what happened in Germany can't happen to your values and beliefs in America, then you truly deserve the future that awaits you, your children, and your grandchildren.
Now you need to ask the media why it has not demanded GLAAD or NAMBLA to pay retribution to the parents of these two murdered boys, as they so actively did with Catholic priests for their living victims. They will not, because the media is now filled with supporters of the ACLU.These things happen only when political correctness is allowed to run amuck supported by educated intellectuals who think they know what's best for you, as they openly exhibited in their actions in Nazi Germany, and now more recently in the United States starting around two decades ago.
GLAAD's national PR representative in 1999, and only a few months after Jesse's murder, openly bragged to a joyous membership that GLAAD now owned the presses, reporting six years ago that GLAAD had 1,500 member journalists infiltrated into press rooms across the United States, and no longer did journalist need to get the other side of gay stories.
And managing editors across the country said nothing ... because it was true.

buddy_christ wrote:

<quoted text>who's trying to prove that it's o.k. to have sex with kids. i'm just state'n the facts man, just state'n the facts

YOU are trying to prove that it's okay to have sex with kids, you fracking pervert. It's all you talk about. You're really sick and really need help.

NO ONE on here wants to discuss sex with children but YOU, freakazoid.

That's why when anyone dared to ask why the news stories on Jesse and Jeffrey were suppressed by the media, GLAAD immediately stepped in calling these people "homophobic," just like the Nazis had labeled those Germans who questioned the arrest of their Jewish friends as "sympathizers."
Yet the media readily printed GLAAD's press releases on the matter of the suppression of Jesse's story, the elitists of the Star Ledger of New Jersey actually pointing to this GLAAD press release and saying it was proof Jesse Dirkhising's name had appeared in their paper.
With the murders of Jesse and Jeffrey, you have been lied to by the media with your right-to-know trampled upon. And if you remember anything, remember this! When you contact your managing editor, you're almost always communicating to a supporter of GLAAD, NAMBLA, or the ACLU.
You can click below and read the details of the murders of these two boys along with the police report on Jesse's death. And while George Soro and the ACLU support Air America and other liberal media outlets that criticize Fox News, they do so because Fox News will not jump onto their propaganda bandwagon and join them in deceiving the American people.
It was only Fox News that was interested enough in Jesse's death to cover the trials of Jesse's murderers, where in contrast the ACLU actually joined with NAMBLA against Jeffrey's parents, who had only wanted NAMBLA's site taken down simply to protect other young boys from being murdered.
The ACLU said it was a critical free speech issue. Jeffrey's murderer, in a report had said it was NAMBLA's material that had helped him in killing the young boy. This suit has now been going on for over four years, with the ACLU continuing to side with NAMBLA pro-bono. The courts obviously have no interest in causing problems for the ACLU or NAMBLA, seeming to hope the matter will go away.The one mistake the Jews made was to do nothing while Germany was being taken over by pariahs and deviate German citizens in the late 1920s.
They sadly discovered there was a tipping point of no return, paying heavily for that mistake. Without America's military and its Allies finally coming to the rescue of the Jews in 1945, those remaining in camps would have wiped off the face of the earth by their politically-correct elitist murderers.
If you believe what happened in Germany can't happen to your values and beliefs in America, then you truly deserve the future that awaits you, your children, and your grandchildren.
Now you need to ask the media why it has not demanded GLAAD or NAMBLA to pay retribution to the parents of these two murdered boys, as they so actively did with Catholic priests for their living victims. They will not, because the media is now filled with supporters of the ACLU.

Jonathan Gregg, in a Time magazine editorial, asserted that, "[the killing of Dirkhising] was the kind of depraved act that happens with even more regularity against young females, and, indeed, if the victim had been a 13-year-old girl, the story would probably never have gotten beyond Benton County, much less Arkansas. The same editorial also said: "A red herring worth addressing at the outset is the failure to distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia, which creates a false parallel at the core of the [Washington] Times' argument. But sex with children is a crime regardless of the sexes involved, and is not synonymous with homosexuality...."The reason the Dirkhising story received so little play is because it offered no lessons. Shepard's murder touches on a host of complex and timely issues: intolerance, society's attitudes toward gays and the pressure to conform, the use of violence as a means of confronting one's demons. "Jesse Dirkhising's death gives us nothing except the depravity of two sick men."

buddy_christ wrote:

Parents in Deerfield, Ill., are upset that a local high school is using books in advanced English classes this spring that they say are laced with graphic sexual content, pervasive expletives and mockery of religion.
Worse, the books - "Angels in America: A Gay Fantasia on National Themes (Parts 1 & 2)" - are required reading for advanced placement English students at Deerfield High School, but a parents' group wants them removed.
"Who would have ever thought that we would be handing out pornography in public schools?" asked Lora Sue Hauser, executive director of North Shore Student Advocacy, and a Deerfield parent.
"The fact that this was required is even more astonishing," she told Cybercast News Service.
Hauser cites numerous examples of offensive passages from the text, including the following:
Man: What do you want?
Louis: I want you to f*** me, hurt me, make me bleed.
Man: I want to.
Louis: Yeah?
Man: I want to hurt you.
Louis: F*** me.
Man: Yeah.
Louis: Hard?
Man: Yeah. You been a bad boy?
(They begin to f***.)
(Louis slips his hand down the front of Joe's pants. They embrace more tightly. Louis pulls his hand out, smells and tastes his fingers, and then holds them for Joe to smell ... they kiss again.)

oh thank you...this is the other one my aunt was telling me about.

I Used To Be wrote:

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YOU are trying to prove that it's okay to have sex with kids, you fracking pervert. It's all you talk about. You're really sick and really need help.
NO ONE on here wants to discuss sex with children but YOU, freakazoid.

it goes hand in hand. you support the aclu, you support glaad, and they both defend nambla. three peas in a f@@@'n pod

sho nuff wrote:

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oh thank you...this is the other one my aunt was telling me about.

soooo full of sh2t. everybody is lying. this never happened. noone has an agenda. bill clinton DID NOT have sexual relations with that woman

How sad you are Buddy Christ, there is nothing worse than a bible-bang'n know-it-all. God's perfect, YOU are NOT. There's only one person who can make judgements on other's... and, that's God. So what are you doing? Put the Bible down. Walk away. Go to church. Get the demons exorcized and COME BACK you major fucktard.

Anne wrote:

How sad you are Buddy Christ, there is nothing worse than a bible-bang'n know-it-all. God's perfect, YOU are NOT. There's only one person who can make judgements on other's... and, that's God. So what are you doing? Put the Bible down. Walk away. Go to church. Get the demons exorcized and COME BACK you major fucktard.

you ignorant c*nt, read my post carefully i ain't a christian. i'm far from bible thumping. you gotta lot of nerve calling someone a f*cktard. who is judging who. lay off the pipe, deary