Debi Lee in vitro fertilization

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Jack Heroff

Tempe, AZ

#1 May 17, 2012
Is Debi Lee back from maternity leave?

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#2 May 17, 2012
Jack Heroff wrote:
Is Debi Lee back from maternity leave?
You aren't funny.
Jack Heroff

Mesa, AZ

#3 May 19, 2012
Gus V Inst wrote:
<quoted text>You aren't funny.
not trying to be. Nobody asked you anyway colon cowboy.
jones

United States

#4 May 19, 2012
Jack Heroff wrote:
<quoted text> not trying to be. Nobody asked you anyway colon cowboy.
If you are not trying to be funny, then why the derogatory name?
Jack Heroff

Phoenix, AZ

#5 May 19, 2012
jones wrote:
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If you are not trying to be funny, then why the derogatory name?
derogatory? My name? How so?
Zoo watcher

Ruidoso, NM

#6 May 19, 2012
You wouldn't know if she ever left on maternity leave. She has gotten so big, maybe she is delivering an elephant? Don't they take approximately 18 months to reach full term?
Jack Heroff

Phoenix, AZ

#7 May 19, 2012
Is Debi back on duty or not?

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#8 May 19, 2012
From what I have heard about Ms. Lee, there are enough negative facts and specific damming information regarding her job performance, lack of skills and education, personnel problems, etc., that there is need to blog about an idiotic premise that is neither funny nor true.
Curious

United States

#9 May 19, 2012
Shouldnt it be jack hymoff ?
Jack Heroff

Phoenix, AZ

#10 May 19, 2012
Enough about my last name. I am heir to WWW.heroff.com if you must know.

Since: Mar 09

Munich, Germany

#11 May 20, 2012
Curious wrote:
Shouldnt it be jack hymoff ?
more like Jack A** with two capital "S". Why the hate? There's a lot to say about Ms. Lee -(see the post above) instead of these nasty insults. Should be possible to discuss problems without insulting people or even starting a thread just to be mean. What a low life!
Rate Payer

Rio Rancho, NM

#12 May 20, 2012
Yes the insults remove any validity from any comments .You are right to say so .I doubt if people would say some of these things to peoples face.
Jack Heroff

Phoenix, AZ

#13 May 20, 2012
Bavarian Hillbilly wrote:
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more like Jack A** with two capital "S". Why the hate? There's a lot to say about Ms. Lee -(see the post above) instead of these nasty insults. Should be possible to discuss problems without insulting people or even starting a thread just to be mean. What a low life!
I didn't insult Devon Lee, I merely asked a question.
Zoo watcher

Ruidoso, NM

#14 May 20, 2012
Gus V Inst wrote:
From what I have heard about Ms. Lee, there are enough negative facts and specific damming information regarding her job performance, lack of skills and education, personnel problems, etc., that there is need to blog about an idiotic premise that is neither funny nor true.
Lighten up, Gus;

The truth and facts regarding Debi Lee of which you are citing have not appeared to be considered important. Not to the former mayor who was involved in giving her the job, the current mayor praising her to no end because he doesn't know what to look for, and council members who have fallen for her smooth operating double talk that blames others, never takes responsibility, therefore that should tell you how that whole bunch of crooks,male and female alike don't deserve any respect!
YOU may not think it is funny, but some of us think it is HILARIOUS!
Try this on for size: There is a position that is opening up in finance. A Temp is being trained for that position. The position should have been posted but has not. Are sneaky Debi Lee and Nancy Klingman planning to pull the same stunt they pulled when they put Karen Bushnell in her present job? Somehow it doesn't appear legal
labor law wise, but then MS. Lee IS the head of that Zoo!

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#15 May 20, 2012
Zoo watcher wrote:
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Lighten up, Gus;
The truth and facts regarding Debi Lee of which you are citing have not appeared to be considered important. Not to the former mayor who was involved in giving her the job, the current mayor praising her to no end because he doesn't know what to look for, and council members who have fallen for her smooth operating double talk that blames others, never takes responsibility, therefore that should tell you how that whole bunch of crooks,male and female alike don't deserve any respect!
YOU may not think it is funny, but some of us think it is HILARIOUS!
Try this on for size: There is a position that is opening up in finance. A Temp is being trained for that position. The position should have been posted but has not. Are sneaky Debi Lee and Nancy Klingman planning to pull the same stunt they pulled when they put Karen Bushnell in her present job? Somehow it doesn't appear legal
labor law wise, but then MS. Lee IS the head of that Zoo!
And what do you gain by ridiculing Lee or any of the other evil ones, especially about something so ridiculous? Don't forget-- I'm on your side but prefer to disseminate valid information about what's going on in the hopes that one day one of their dastardly deeds will be the straw that breaks the camel's back and we'll be rid of this sordid group. Perhaps we might even get some knowledgeable replacements with some actual integrity.

Since: Mar 09

Gießen, Germany

#16 May 20, 2012
Jack Heroff wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't insult Devon Lee, I merely asked a question.
No need to play dumb - we can see you are!
Village watcher

Ruidoso Downs, NM

#17 May 22, 2012
If you all didn't read (and half of you seem to miss what you don't want to see), that nasty Tom Gavin had his suit dismissed without merit.
Chalk one up for Ms. Lee and the village.
Correction

San Leandro, CA

#18 May 22, 2012
Village watcher wrote:
If you all didn't read (and half of you seem to miss what you don't want to see), that nasty Tom Gavin had his suit dismissed without merit.
Chalk one up for Ms. Lee and the village.
Hang on Village watcher this may not be the whole story. I am sure the Ruidoso News will have a correct and complete article on Mr. Gavin's suit.
Part-time Resident

Placerville, CA

#19 May 22, 2012
Village watcher wrote:
If you all didn't read (and half of you seem to miss what you don't want to see), that nasty Tom Gavin had his suit dismissed without merit.
Chalk one up for Ms. Lee and the village.
As usual, the Ruidoso Free Press has done an unprofessional job in reporting this story. The lawsuit, Gavin vs. The Village of Ruidoso has not been dismissed in its totality and the most severe charges filed by Gavin's attorney have yet to be addressed by the Courts; but have simply been referred to the State Court for litigation by the Federal Court that refuses to rule on a relatively new State whistle-blower statute. The Free Press continues to be the voice for Harlin Vincent in his quest to become Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidiso. Vincent has a business relationship with Hubbard who owns the Free Press. Vincent collects horse manure from Ruidoso Downs Race Track for a profit and therefore any conclusions made by the Free Press in relation to this matter are not only biased, but totally premature. Vincent could not be promoted into the position of Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidoso based on his own merits and career accomplishments. He has absolutely no qualifications, education, or diverse career job experiences that would permit him to compete for this job based on merit. Accordingly, he has recruited his relatives within the Village Fire Department, Village Hall and now the Free Press to insure that he will be placed in the position without competition from qualified applicants. The case of Gavin vs. the Village of Ruidoso is far from being resolved and if the Free Press wanted to be impartial and fair in its reporting of this matter, they would have contacted attorney Bob Beauvais for his legal perspective on this case or would have waited until all litigation is final before releasing any media or press on this matter. The entire matter has been both embarrassing and costly for the Village of Ruidoso and its insurance fund. Recent contradictory revelations relative to Vincent's involvement and relationship with relatives that started the White fire is an embarrassment to the City of Ruidoso and the integrity of the office of the Fire chief. Such questionable lapses in judgement and inability to manage fires, were never in question when Gavin was Chief. Gavin recently was forced to vacate his position with the City of Ruidoso due to his attempts to resolve conflict in the workplace and eliminate nepotism and corruption within the Ruidoso Fire department. Gavin is now a police office in another municipality in New Mexico and continues to work with his attorney to resolve his termination with he Village of Ruidoso. This premature reporting on this matter by the Ruidoso Free Press is not only irresponsible/reckless, but unprofessional of proves that this paper is nothing more than a voice of the Village of Ruidoso and councilman Stoddard who is a personal friend of Debbie Lee and Harlin Vincet. Officer Gavin has 40 years of superior performance ratings with multiple law enforcement agencies and fire departments and this is why he was hired as Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidoso. He no longer lives in the Village of Ruidoso; therefore the Village manager Harlin Vincent and Jim Stoddard need to bury the hatchet with regards to the further degridation of Gavin and his family. Enough by the big machine.
Tom Anderson

Scottsdale, AZ

#20 May 22, 2012
Part-time Resident wrote:
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As usual, the Ruidoso Free Press has done an unprofessional job in reporting this story. The lawsuit, Gavin vs. The Village of Ruidoso has not been dismissed in its totality and the most severe charges filed by Gavin's attorney have yet to be addressed by the Courts; but have simply been referred to the State Court for litigation by the Federal Court that refuses to rule on a relatively new State whistle-blower statute. The Free Press continues to be the voice for Harlin Vincent in his quest to become Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidiso. Vincent has a business relationship with Hubbard who owns the Free Press. Vincent collects horse manure from Ruidoso Downs Race Track for a profit and therefore any conclusions made by the Free Press in relation to this matter are not only biased, but totally premature. Vincent could not be promoted into the position of Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidoso based on his own merits and career accomplishments. He has absolutely no qualifications, education, or diverse career job experiences that would permit him to compete for this job based on merit. Accordingly, he has recruited his relatives within the Village Fire Department, Village Hall and now the Free Press to insure that he will be placed in the position without competition from qualified applicants. The case of Gavin vs. the Village of Ruidoso is far from being resolved and if the Free Press wanted to be impartial and fair in its reporting of this matter, they would have contacted attorney Bob Beauvais for his legal perspective on this case or would have waited until all litigation is final before releasing any media or press on this matter. The entire matter has been both embarrassing and costly for the Village of Ruidoso and its insurance fund. Recent contradictory revelations relative to Vincent's involvement and relationship with relatives that started the White fire is an embarrassment to the City of Ruidoso and the integrity of the office of the Fire chief. Such questionable lapses in judgement and inability to manage fires, were never in question when Gavin was Chief. Gavin recently was forced to vacate his position with the City of Ruidoso due to his attempts to resolve conflict in the workplace and eliminate nepotism and corruption within the Ruidoso Fire department. Gavin is now a police office in another municipality in New Mexico and continues to work with his attorney to resolve his termination with he Village of Ruidoso. This premature reporting on this matter by the Ruidoso Free Press is not only irresponsible/reckless, but unprofessional of proves that this paper is nothing more than a voice of the Village of Ruidoso and councilman Stoddard who is a personal friend of Debbie Lee and Harlin Vincet. Officer Gavin has 40 years of superior performance ratings with multiple law enforcement agencies and fire departments and this is why he was hired as Fire Chief for the Village of Ruidoso. He no longer lives in the Village of Ruidoso; therefore the Village manager Harlin Vincent and Jim Stoddard need to bury the hatchet with regards to the further degridation of Gavin and his family. Enough by the big machine.
Need to stop referring to Free Press as a newspaper and just call it what it really is -- a crappy Hubbard Co. & Friends newsletter.

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