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Frustrated capacian
Dearborn Heights, MI
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I started out this week hearing a rumor that mark klug was going to present village council a proposal for him to become the village manager of capac. At first I could not believe that notion. The man has NO higher education other than high school, has filed bankruptcy twice and lost his business for failing to make his payments, and now he wants to run this town with our money? At first I said, never, council would never go for it as well as the taxpayers in this town. But later in the week after having several conversations with elected officials in capac about this rumor, to my utter shock and amazement, it's true. Mark wants to sit in the managers chair 2-3 days a week playing village manager too. Of course he will want to be well compensated for doing that job too.
Let's look at a few things in context, former manager quit over a pay raise, klug sent crareys contract renewal to committee and council voted to rescind the managers ordinance. On the surface it appears klug has been prepping this situation for awhile with help from council members. Now he will propose expanding the duties of the village manager and how much he will get paid for those extra duties. Not bad huh!! This is a man with NO municiple management skills or training, no degrees in business or management or common sense. Mark has shown us glimpse of what his managerial skills would be, for example.... He alone said NO to the Michigan State Police providing free police coverage and presence with out consent of council. He signed a purchase agreement where the buyer could assign to agreement to anyone WITHOUT the sellers consent, ie village of capac. And on top of all that, did I forget he pays his property taxes late every year, thus violating Village Law and his oath of office. With that said, is he a manager material? HELL NO!!
I am almost certain mark has run this expansion of president duties by the village lawyers already and enough council members in his pocket to get it thru. Why he'll only in capac can they hire a manager without even a resume and interview, just a recommendation from a man who almost fired him twice while he worked under him in imlay city. So, shit, mark klug may be over qualified compared to the last manager we had OR a disaster in the making for us taxpayers. At this point in time, I would like Pete Kavanaugh back.
Come on folks, show up at the aug. 6th village council meeting and start asking questions about how this Mis-informed, un-educated village president has in mind in taking this village forward in making it better than it was when he bacame village president. I know I will.
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Ron
Utica, MI
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I am laughing so hard I am crying, for real. God help us all!!!! You won't be able to stop them. We are doomed.
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seenitbefore
Washington, MI
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Isn't there a special law in the village charter anyway that gives Mark ultimate power over everything anyway???? They may have called Chris the manager but I doubt he did a whole lot of managing...Why frustrate another manager who thinks they will be managing something....
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Frustrated capacian
Dearborn Heights, MI
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seenitbefore wrote: Isn't there a special law in the village charter anyway that gives Mark ultimate power over everything anyway???? They may have called Chris the manager but I doubt he did a whole lot of managing...Why frustrate another manager who thinks they will be managing something.... can not have another manager, they repealed the ordinance, the council will have to approve expanding the duties of village president to let mark do the duties as manager under the title as village president. Mark thinks he can do the job for he watched how the last two idiots do the job. In my opinion, the last two did nothing positive for capac at all. We are doomed unless we take action and start asking questions of our self enlighned council and it's self MBA educated president.
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seenitbefore
Washington, MI
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Idiots are encouraged to apply in Capac... If you are not an idiot when you get there you will be by the time you leave!!!!
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Ron
Utica, MI
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Frustrated capacian wrote: <quoted text>
can not have another manager, they repealed the ordinance, the council will have to approve expanding the duties of village president to let mark do the duties as manager under the title as village president. Mark thinks he can do the job for he watched how the last two idiots do the job. In my opinion, the last two did nothing positive for capac at all. We are doomed unless we take action and start asking questions of our self enlighned council and it's self MBA educated president. It does not matter, they do not follow the laws and there is no entity in charge of enforcing the laws. In order to do anything about the laws they are and will break, a private citizen has to come up with their own funds to take them to court.
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seenitbefore
Washington, MI
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Ron wrote: <quoted text>
It does not matter, they do not follow the laws and there is no entity in charge of enforcing the laws. In order to do anything about the laws they are and will break, a private citizen has to come up with their own funds to take them to court. If something controversial does come up, meetings are missed with plenty of excuses and it all blows over...I have heard that the citizens that were concerned have left!!!!
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Frustrated capacian
Pittsburgh, PA
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I can not wait for the Aug 6th village council meeting. I hear that a few key business people in this village are coming to the meeting and are going to ask our leaders some very tough questions. Knowing these people very well, they will not take any bull shit answers. Things are going to get shook up, and they don't give a shit whoose feelings they hurt, the village is a business and needs to be run like one. Klug better show up and answer questions from the taxpayers like the so-called professional he claims to be, espically if he wants that coveted managers chair.
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Ron
Utica, MI
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seenitbefore wrote: <quoted text> If something controversial does come up, meetings are missed with plenty of excuses and it all blows over...I have heard that the citizens that were concerned have left!!!! Yes, they are famous for covert ways of operating. But seriously, residents have contacted everyone from the St. Clair County Prosecutors Office to the Office of the Attorney General. Capac is a piss ant little town, nobody cares, nobody is willing to even look into things here no matter how many laws they break. They are free to do whatever they want and they know it.
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Frustrated capacian
Pittsburgh, PA
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Ron wrote: <quoted text>
Yes, they are famous for covert ways of operating. But seriously, residents have contacted everyone from the St. Clair County Prosecutors Office to the Office of the Attorney General. Capac is a piss ant little town, nobody cares, nobody is willing to even look into things here no matter how many laws they break. They are free to do whatever they want and they know it. Well I am tired, for I am one of those who has tried and tried again to get someone to look into our little lawless nomads.
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Michael Mikolajczak
Clinton, MI
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Frustrated capacian wrote: I can not wait for the Aug 6th village council meeting. I hear that a few key business people in this village are coming to the meeting and are going to ask our leaders some very tough questions. Knowing these people very well, they will not take any bull shit answers. Things are going to get shook up, and they don't give a shit whoose feelings they hurt, the village is a business and needs to be run like one. Klug better show up and answer questions from the taxpayers like the so-called professional he claims to be, espically if he wants that coveted managers chair. From the General Law Village Act What’s a conflict of interest? And why do we care? To understand the Michigan laws on the subject, let’s begin with what they are trying to address: Just what is a “conflict of interest?” And why should we care about it? The second question is easy to answer: Public office is a public trust. Elected officials are merely hired hands, delegate power from the public, obliged to exercise that power as the public’s trustees. We owe a duty of loyalty to the public interest. Actions or influences tending to undermine that loyalty are destructive to the public’s confidence in government. We all should care about that. A conflict of interest is any interest competing with or adverse to our primary duty of loyalty to the public interest. A competing interest may be a personal interest, or it may be a duty or loyalty we owe to a third party. In either case, there is a “conflict” if the competing interest impairs our ability to decide a public question objectively and independently. That is a broad definition, and not everything which might fall within it is necessarily a problem. Each of the statutes discussed below is based upon this general concept: An influence which could impair our impartiality is a potential problem. The laws distinguish between conflicts which are permissible and those which are not. Act 196, the State Ethics Act Act 196 prescribes general standards of conduct for public officers and employees. Although originally drafted to exclude local officials, in 1980 local officials were brought within its scope.(Opinion of the Attorney General (OAG) No. 6005 (1981), pp. 440-41). The ethical constraints imposed by Act 196 are mandatory provisions to which local government officials are obliged to adhere.(OAG No. 6005, p. 443). Act 196 establishes seven areas of prohibited conduct. A local government official shall not: 1. divulge confidential information to an unauthorized person in advance of the time set for its public release. 2. represent his or her opinion as that of the local government. 3. use governmental personnel, property or funds for personal gain or benefit or in a manner not in accord with proper procedures. 4. solicit or accept gifts, loans, goods, services or other things of value which tend to influence his or her performance of official duties. 5. engage in a business transaction in which he or she may profit from his or her official position or benefit financially from confidential information.(Instruction done outside of regularly scheduled working hours generally is exempt. Act 196, Sec. 2(5).) 6. engage in or accept employment or render services for a public or private interest which is incompatible or in conflict with the discharge of official duties or which may tend to impair his or her independence of judgment. 7. participate in the negotiation or execution of contracts, making loans, granting subsidies, fixing rates, issuing permits or certificates or other regulation or supervision relating to a business entity in which the public officer has a financial or personal interest.
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Frustrated Capacian
Almont, MI
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Michael Mikolajczak wrote: <quoted text>
From the General Law Village Act
What’s a conflict of interest? And why do we care? To understand the Michigan laws on the subject, let’s begin with what they are trying to address: Just what is a “conflict of interest?” And why should we care about it? The second question is easy to answer: Public office is a public trust. Elected officials are merely hired hands, delegate power from the public, obliged to exercise that power as the public’s trustees. We owe a duty of loyalty to the public interest. Actions or influences tending to undermine that loyalty are destructive to the public’s confidence in government. We all should care about that. A conflict of interest is any interest competing with or adverse to our primary duty of loyalty to the public interest. A competing interest may be a personal interest, or it may be a duty or loyalty we owe to a third party. In either case, there is a “conflict” if the competing interest impairs our ability to decide a public question objectively and independently.
That is a broad definition, and not everything which might fall within it is necessarily a problem. Each of the statutes discussed below is based upon this
general concept: An influence which could impair our impartiality is a potential problem. The laws distinguish between conflicts which are permissible and those which are not. Act 196, the State Ethics Act Act 196 prescribes general standards of conduct for public officers and employees. Although originally drafted to exclude local officials, in 1980 local officials were brought within its scope.(Opinion of the Attorney General (OAG) No. 6005 (1981), pp. 440-41). The ethical constraints imposed by Act 196 are mandatory provisions to which local government officials are obliged to adhere.(OAG No. 6005, p. 443). Act 196 establishes seven areas of prohibited conduct. A local government official shall not: 1. divulge confidential information to an unauthorized person in advance of the time set for its public release. 2. represent his or her opinion as that of the local government. 3. use governmental personnel, property or funds for personal gain or benefit or in a manner not in accord with proper procedures. 4. solicit or accept gifts, loans, goods, services or other things of value which
tend to influence his or her performance of official duties. 5. engage in a business transaction in which he or she may profit from his or her official position or benefit financially from confidential information.(Instruction done outside of regularly scheduled working hours generally is exempt. Act 196, Sec. 2(5).) 6. engage in or accept employment or render services for a public or private interest which is incompatible or in conflict with the discharge of official duties or which may tend to impair his or her independence of judgment. 7. participate in the negotiation or execution of contracts, making loans, granting subsidies, fixing rates, issuing permits or certificates or other regulation or supervision relating to a business entity in which the public officer has a financial or personal interest. Very Good, to bad nobody on council will be able to read this, interept it and apply it. If I read this right, when king klug soley made the decision on NO MSP in Capac without council input or consent, then he would be in big trouble. To bad nobody on council will bring it up to penalize him. Just like the debacle on un-paid property taxes, council was informed in writting by the St. Clair County Clerk of two violaters on council, council decided to IGNORE the letter and the law violaters got away with it again. I am still following up on those violations with the Michigan AG Office. Thanks Mike.
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Michael Mikolajczak
Clinton, MI
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Frustrated Capacian wrote: <quoted text>
Very Good, to bad nobody on council will be able to read this, interept it and apply it. If I read this right, when king klug soley made the decision on NO MSP in Capac without council input or consent, then he would be in big trouble. To bad nobody on council will bring it up to penalize him. Just like the debacle on un-paid property taxes, council was informed in writting by the St. Clair County Clerk of two violaters on council, council decided to IGNORE the letter and the law violaters got away with it again. I am still following up on those violations with the Michigan AG Office. Thanks Mike. I think "Conflict” and "Competing interest are very important.
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Ron
Utica, MI
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Michael Mikolajczak wrote: <quoted text>
I think "Conflict” and "Competing interest are very important. It is all important, it is just unenforceable. Maybe in a big city you might get someone to look into it, but not in Capac. People have beat their heads against the wall trying to get these guys to follow the law. Again, there is no entity in place to enforce the law and if you try to do something about it, you will quickly find this out. The bottom line is unless a private citizen is willing to spend their own money to bring a lawsuit against the village, there is nothing that can be done. Many have tried. All that anyone has succeeded in doing is giving the council the confidence that they can do whatever they want because nobody can do anything about it.
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Cozy in Capac
Capac, MI
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Would it help if we collectively band together to get these things looked into?
It seems that one person without the community behind them will not get very far.
Another reason for that Concerned Citizens Group fellowcapacian was talking about...
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Michael Mikolajczak
Imlay City, MI
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Cozy in Capac wrote: Would it help if we collectively band together to get these things looked into?
It seems that one person without the community behind them will not get very far.
Another reason for that Concerned Citizens Group fellowcapacian was talking about... Friday 7pm at Louie's...see you there
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Michael Mikolajczak
Imlay City, MI
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Frustrated Capacian wrote: <quoted text>
Very Good, to bad nobody on council will be able to read this, interept it and apply it. If I read this right, when king klug soley made the decision on NO MSP in Capac without council input or consent, then he would be in big trouble. To bad nobody on council will bring it up to penalize him. Just like the debacle on un-paid property taxes, council was informed in writting by the St. Clair County Clerk of two violaters on council, council decided to IGNORE the letter and the law violaters got away with it again. I am still following up on those violations with the Michigan AG Office. Thanks Mike. Friday 7pm at Louie's...see you there
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Michael Mikolajczak
Imlay City, MI
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Ron wrote: <quoted text>
It is all important, it is just unenforceable. Maybe in a big city you might get someone to look into it, but not in Capac. People have beat their heads against the wall trying to get these guys to follow the law. Again, there is no entity in place to enforce the law and if you try to do something about it, you will quickly find this out.
The bottom line is unless a private citizen is willing to spend their own money to bring a lawsuit against the village, there is nothing that can be done. Many have tried. All that anyone has succeeded in doing is giving the council the confidence that they can do whatever they want because nobody can do anything about it. Friday 7pm at Louie's...see you there
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Frustrated capacian
Marion, OH
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Looks like klug has to wait till January to take over this town and show us how it's done the klug way. God I can't wait, hopefully I will be gone by then.
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