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Packaged Beer / Liquor in Cambellsville

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Mr Know It All

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Nov 14, 2009
 
who knows wrote:
It's been one year since the moist vote passed and the first drink was served in Campbellsville. The chief of police reported no increased DUI arrest or any alcohol related misconduct. This has been a good test and now it's time to go all the way.
Well, there is a simple explanation for this. Seems the sales of alcohol "by the drink" here in Taylor Co. has been ALLOT less than what was anticipated (say it ain't so!)
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Nov 14, 2009
 
Mr Know It All wrote:
<quoted text>Uhhhh...the tax you pay for alcohol doesn't go to the county, it goes to the state.
I agree to an extent, but I will expand on the thought...

McDonald's, Wendy's, Taco Bell and other fast food establishments do not serve alcohol in any stores and Campbellsville is overrun with them. Most people buy beer, wine and spirits packaged. The businesses that sell these contribute to their local economies. Yes, the tax is state imposed but the jobs and other attributes are local. We should be doing everything possible in today's economy to shore up our position in Taylor County. Do not give these retail sales to others if it can be prevented. With your train of thought, why not vote Taylor County "Tobacco free"? Have everyone who purchases tobacco product go to Marion County to buy them too.
Mr Know It All

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Nov 14, 2009
 
why wrote:
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I agree to an extent, but I will expand on the thought...
McDonald's, Wendy's, Taco Bell and other fast food establishments do not serve alcohol in any stores and Campbellsville is overrun with them. Most people buy beer, wine and spirits packaged. The businesses that sell these contribute to their local economies. Yes, the tax is state imposed but the jobs and other attributes are local. We should be doing everything possible in today's economy to shore up our position in Taylor County. Do not give these retail sales to others if it can be prevented. With your train of thought, why not vote Taylor County "Tobacco free"? Have everyone who purchases tobacco product go to Marion County to buy them too.
Understood. However, your opinion about package sales is really no different than the stratagies used to go damp and quite frankly...how has that panned out?
not right

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Nov 14, 2009
 

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<quoted text>Uhhhh...the tax you pay for alcohol doesn't go to the county, it goes to the state.
If you could read or understand, the "right to sale" license in this town goes to the city. There is a city tax on each beer sold here. In lebanon, the county gets a minimum of one thousand dollars per estibilishment to sell liquor or beer. That goes to the county.
So, to say the county gets no money, is right, but the county isn't moist, the city is. The city does get tax and license fees for any store to sell, plus a per drink tax going to the city.
The rules now makes you have a large restaurant to sell. With package stores, any convience store could sell and have to pay that same thousand dollar license to operate and have the same tax on each item sold. Making alot more revenue for the city, and the county, if they follow suit.
Big Johns is 6 miles away and makes alot of money. Employess there pay county taxes, license fees paid, occupatitional taxes, all paid to marion county.
It's so simple, maybe that's why its complex to you. Just keep letting marion county getting all the taxes, it's no trouble to drive 6 miles. Maybe we don't need anymore revenue taxes.
People that go to marion county to buy, buy larger amounts so they don't have to drive back and forth so much. Wouldn't it make sense that if we had local convience stores here, they would only buy what they needed, and not stock pile it up?
I think there would be less DUI's, not more. Critics claimed more DUI's when we got moist, police report no increased activity, so throw that theory out the door. The same people opposing this, are the same ones drinking at the country club, or the ones you see out of down drinking like fishes.
It's just "not in our town" thing, but we do lose alot of revenue having our lil church town here, taking all in consideration, the new employees hired, increased license to sell, and the per drink tax imposed.
Like I said, I can drive 6 miles, but stop increasing taxes and imposing new ones, when you will not take advantage of revenue that you refuse to accept that is already here.
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Nov 14, 2009
 
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If you could read or understand, the "right to sale" license in this town goes to the city. There is a city tax on each beer sold here. In lebanon, the county gets a minimum of one thousand dollars per estibilishment to sell liquor or beer. That goes to the county.
So, to say the county gets no money, is right, but the county isn't moist, the city is. The city does get tax and license fees for any store to sell, plus a per drink tax going to the city.
The rules now makes you have a large restaurant to sell. With package stores, any convience store could sell and have to pay that same thousand dollar license to operate and have the same tax on each item sold. Making alot more revenue for the city, and the county, if they follow suit.
Big Johns is 6 miles away and makes alot of money. Employess there pay county taxes, license fees paid, occupatitional taxes, all paid to marion county.
It's so simple, maybe that's why its complex to you. Just keep letting marion county getting all the taxes, it's no trouble to drive 6 miles. Maybe we don't need anymore revenue taxes.
People that go to marion county to buy, buy larger amounts so they don't have to drive back and forth so much. Wouldn't it make sense that if we had local convience stores here, they would only buy what they needed, and not stock pile it up?
I think there would be less DUI's, not more. Critics claimed more DUI's when we got moist, police report no increased activity, so throw that theory out the door. The same people opposing this, are the same ones drinking at the country club, or the ones you see out of down drinking like fishes.
It's just "not in our town" thing, but we do lose alot of revenue having our lil church town here, taking all in consideration, the new employees hired, increased license to sell, and the per drink tax imposed.
Like I said, I can drive 6 miles, but stop increasing taxes and imposing new ones, when you will not take advantage of revenue that you refuse to accept that is already here.
I think that about covers it all. So think about the JOBS & The REVENUE for this town while your going to your lil church this sunday. Most of you drive that 6 miles once a month yourselfs.
Mr Know It All

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Nov 14, 2009
 
Why not wrote:
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I think that about covers it all. So think about the JOBS & The REVENUE for this town while your going to your lil church this sunday. Most of you drive that 6 miles once a month yourselfs.
1. Explain how package sales will create jobs.
2. In regards to the increase in revenue, for who???
3.Would you expect Wal Mart to lead the way in alcohol sales?
4. Next, tell us where Wal Mart does their local banking?
5. Sorry, I don't attend church, but nor do I partake in the drinking of alcohol. See I learned my lessons about drinking the hard way, a long time ago.
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Nov 14, 2009
 
1.. Big Johns hires over 20 employees. 90% of sales comes from taylor county. Wouldn't it seem possible that you would need at least 20 new employees from taylor co if we bought it here?
New package stores would open, hiring employees.
Other dry counties would come here and buy, being closer to them. Increase sales equals increased jobs. Increased sales equals increased tax revenues.
2... City gets yearly license fee plus per drink tax. So revenue would be in city's general fund.
3.. Walmart doesn't sell liquor anywhere. but the local walmart pays occupatitional taxes and their employees pays city and county taxes. Per drink local tax would still have to be paid by everyone, including walmart.
4. If you don't drink, than it doesn't matter to if we lose revenue or not. Your not paying any to other counties.
all for a wet county

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#29
Nov 14, 2009
 
I too used to live in a big city, with gas stations that sold beer, liquor store or bar on everyblock. Heck you could even buy your beer at Wal-Mart. To me, being an outsider, there are already more drugs per capita (possibly not proven) than any where I have lived or been. Like I said I can't prove, but it seems that people have no shame in flaunting it here. So why not be wet, I really don't think it is going to increase the drug problem. As far as people who drink being abusive, one my mother drinks and she never abused me, she is the salt of the earth and would do anything in the world for you. My dad drinks, he is not abusive, my grand parents drank guess what not abusive. My point is if you are abusive, you are abusive alcohol may intesnify it, but it is not the cause. I agreee that making this county wet, could quite possibly help it
Mr Know It All

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Nov 14, 2009
 
here you go wrote:
1.. Big Johns hires over 20 employees. 90% of sales comes from taylor county. Wouldn't it seem possible that you would need at least 20 new employees from taylor co if we bought it here?
New package stores would open, hiring employees.
Other dry counties would come here and buy, being closer to them. Increase sales equals increased jobs. Increased sales equals increased tax revenues.
2... City gets yearly license fee plus per drink tax. So revenue would be in city's general fund.
3.. Walmart doesn't sell liquor anywhere. but the local walmart pays occupatitional taxes and their employees pays city and county taxes. Per drink local tax would still have to be paid by everyone, including walmart.
4. If you don't drink, than it doesn't matter to if we lose revenue or not. Your not paying any to other counties.
1. Wrong on all counts.
2. Wrong again. How can you charge a "per drink" tax on package sales?
3. See # 2 again.
4. Obviously....someone other than yourself will have to do allot better job selling us on the idea that putting a "6 Packs R-Us" on every corner is an economic solution this community needs.
peter

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#31
Nov 15, 2009
 
who knows wrote:
Why does Taylor County support Marion and others by not being wet? TC is missing out on a lot of tax revenue.
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rod

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Nov 15, 2009
 

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catholic is better religion..peopel can think and make own minds..respect others..my baptist friends drink all the time
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Nov 15, 2009
 
rod wrote:
catholic is better religion..peopel can think and make own minds..respect others..my baptist friends drink all the time
Your right Lebanon full of Catholics & most people there are freindly. As for Mr. know it all. You should run for office in C-ville your brain would fit right in.
How could you honestly sit there with your 1 thur 5 sh-t & make someone beleive that stuff.
Mr Know It All

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Nov 15, 2009
 
Clean for years wrote:
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Your right Lebanon full of Catholics & most people there are freindly. As for Mr. know it all. You should run for office in C-ville your brain would fit right in.
How could you honestly sit there with your 1 thur 5 sh-t & make someone beleive that stuff.
What is there to believe? My 1-5 was a list of questions. Perhaps you're confused with the 1-5 ANSWERS from another poster.
Southside Boy

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One word...."prohibition "...look it up...read what it caused...
Don't be a "guarded christian" and fence out the eveils from your little world....if you are a christian....go out and preach your beliefs as the Kings James version insist you do..
I believe the Bible speaks of wines the "Holy" took part with wine in thier riturals....but it is done in moderation.
Seems we all modifey religion to fit our lifestyle...
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Nov 15, 2009
 
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wow, sounds like your family came from casey county. We're all not like the ones you been around. Coke, pills, and needles doesn't come from package stores.,they come from your local doctor. Crack is already here and package stores don't promote drugs.
Was you one of the survivors from Jonestown>>?
Sounds like it, it will be OK, just don't drink the cool-aid
What's your obsession with jonestown and the kool-aid all about? I truely do believe you "need some help".
idiot

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Nov 15, 2009
 
Mr Know It All wrote:
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1. Wrong on all counts.
2. Wrong again. How can you charge a "per drink" tax on package sales?
3. See # 2 again.
4. Obviously....someone other than yourself will have to do allot better job selling us on the idea that putting a "6 Packs R-Us" on every corner is an economic solution this community needs.
How can you say I'm wrong, you are truely an idiot, maybe you should start drinking, than, at least, you would have an excuse.
How can you sell "horsesense" to someone that only knows the back end of one.
you must be chester simms, he's got rich off taylor county. Why don't you go back working on global hunger, this is way over your head.
Been there done that

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Nov 15, 2009
 
here you go wrote:
1.. Big Johns hires over 20 employees. 90% of sales comes from taylor county. Wouldn't it seem possible that you would need at least 20 new employees from taylor co if we bought it here?
New package stores would open, hiring employees.
Other dry counties would come here and buy, being closer to them. Increase sales equals increased jobs. Increased sales equals increased tax revenues.
2... City gets yearly license fee plus per drink tax. So revenue would be in city's general fund.
3.. Walmart doesn't sell liquor anywhere. but the local walmart pays occupatitional taxes and their employees pays city and county taxes. Per drink local tax would still have to be paid by everyone, including walmart.
4. If you don't drink, than it doesn't matter to if we lose revenue or not. Your not paying any to other counties.
Maybe not in kentucky, but there was a liquor store attached to each and every WalMart I saw in Florida.
Sam's sells beer and wine in wet counties.
But I agree with you on the other facts. Including car loads of us purchasing our alcohol right over the county line while we were sophomores in high school...and not just one time.
Mr Know It All

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Nov 16, 2009
 
Been there done that wrote:
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But I agree with you on the other facts. Including car loads of us purchasing our alcohol right over the county line while we were sophomores in high school...and not just one time.
Sophomores buying alcohol by the car load? Nice!!!

OK boys, you convinced me...let's go "wet" so we can keep those teenagers here to buy their booze, instead of in Marion Co.

Good idea!!!
Mr Know It All

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Nov 16, 2009
 
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How can you say I'm wrong, you are truely an idiot, maybe you should start drinking, than, at least, you would have an excuse.
How can you sell "horsesense" to someone that only knows the back end of one.
you must be chester simms, he's got rich off taylor county. Why don't you go back working on global hunger, this is way over your head.
I can say you're wrong very easily. Want to hear it again?
not a drinker

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Nov 16, 2009
 
Mr Know It All wrote:
<quoted text> Sophomores buying alcohol by the car load? Nice!!!
OK boys, you convinced me...let's go "wet" so we can keep those teenagers here to buy their booze, instead of in Marion Co.
Good idea!!!
The alcohol joints close to the Marion/Taylor County Line have a history of dealing to the underage drinker. Have we all forgotten the accident with Ace Kearney and the others? Who among the dead was of drinking age. They purchased their liquor at 2 different establishments.
I caught my underage son coming out the window of Big Johns. There were a half dozen high school students in that vehicle. I knew they had been there before and I caught a clue they were heading there again, that was why I was there watching for them. They weren't there buying soft-drinks! It was reported to the state police, but nothing was ever done about it. It happens over and over, night after night.
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