Critics seek ban on dog auctions, see link to 'puppy mills'

Who benefits from puppy mills? Petland? Who are the puppy mill breeders in Ohio? Are these puppy mill facilities as bad as I've heard? When you buy a puppy from a real breeder you fill out an application, you agree to bring the puppy back to the breeder if the relationship doesn't work out, you have to give the breeder references, and sometimes they do a background check before selling you a dog. I think there is a real story here. Again, who benefits from puppy mills besides Petland?

I support this effort enthusiastically. Ohio is known as a haven for sleazebag businesses that harm and exploit dogs and rip off consumers. If the General Assembly doesnt have the courage or decency to stop this, voters will. Yes, we want to shut down these businesses, and the sooner the better. Animal shelters are overflowing with wonderful, loving, healthy dogs. Be part of the solution and adopt one.

My first reaction was good great about time!!! But then I sat and considered the consequences. I have been involved, through my all-breed and breed club, with getting my breed out of these auctions. My concern is if they ban auctions what will happen to the unwanted dogs? Most likely they will just be killed when they are no longer useful to the puppy millers. They do not think twice of taking them outback and shooting them or any other means of putting them down. I am all for stopping these auctions, the selling of dogs at raffles and getting tough with anyone who breeds more then 9 litters a year. Perhaps there needs to be more to this bill.Something that will run their miserable hides out of Ohio! Something to keep them from being able to kill the dogs if auctions are outlawed. But there must be care not to lump good breeders in with the puppy millers. If everyone who wanted a purebred dog would do their research, buy from a breeder who is there for them, does genetic testing, breeds with the care and concern of the breed in mind, is willing to take back any dog they breed, sells with a spay/neuter clause in their contract then there would be far less unwanted dogs ending up in shelters. John Q. Public has a big responsibility concerning this problem. Stop buying from pet shops, stop buying from backyard breeders,stop buying without thinking it through, no impulse buying, stop buying a puppy just because it was closest to you and cheap. You get what you pay for!

I am sick of people deifying animals. Dogs are dogs, not people. Dogs and other animals are livestock and most successful breeders treat their livestock in a way that will protect their investment which means they are well fed and cared for. There is market demand for dogs of various breeds just like some restaurants create a demand for Angus beef over the Herford breed. Producers have the right to market as the market will bear. Go after breeding and holding techniques if you feel the methods of some breeders are too rough but don't mess with a commodity market and free enterprise.

You only have to look at what has happened in this country over the last 18 months (bank failures, record home foreclosures, the Madoff scandal) to know that the commodity market and free enterprise system doesn't work well when others choose not to follow the rules. You need to review Ohio Dog Law because canines are not defined as livestock and you really need to attend one of these auctions so you can speak more intelligently on what is taking place in Ohio. Just because there's market demand for dogs doesn't mean that owners have a right to treat breeding dogs inhumanely as is the case with the breeders who attend this auction. Profit is their primary motive for existence. They are not reputable breeders and no reputable breeder would ever place their dog in this auction. I support this ban.

Who benefits from the puppy mills? The millers! Certainly not the breeding dogs that are caged and bred all of their lives! Certainly not the puppies that are milled-torn away from their mothers, who by the way, are usually killed when they cannot breed anymore. The breeder dogs are kept in tiny cages, with no socialization, grooming, veterinary care, and no love! Eyes oozing, voiding on the caged dogs below them, crazy from the confinement, infection, etc.
The Amish in Sugarcreek Ohio are to blame. I have seen the puppies and the breeder dogs on several occassions. Would not wish that horror on any animal!
Who benefits? Obviously, not the breeder dogs or their offspring. What a tragic life they are forced to endure.
The petstore? They could care less. It is all about the almighty dollar to them. Pedigree papers can be altered. No doubt. Many of these puppies come from interbred breeder dogs.
800 dogs and cats are euthenized in this country every hour of every day. Why not give these animals a second chance for love?
I am against breeding. There are too many unwanted pets out there they deserve a loving home.

Auctions and Puppy Mills need to be banned from every state. They are cruel and inhumane. These people have had years to prove they could treat dogs with respect and care. THEY HAVE NOT,DO NOT, and WILL NOT.
We are the most civilized nation in the world and this is what we do. THEY ought to be ashamed of themselves. I do believe all of these people will get their just reward someday.
PLEASE STOP PUPPY MILLS AND DOG AUCTIONS NOW.

People need to butt out of everyone else's business.

If a puppy mill sells bad product, or if stores sell sick dogs, they lose business. Not to mention, people do not go into the dog breeding business because they hate dogs.

These animal rights nuts are getting way out of line.

Puppy mills are animal abuse pure and simple, and should be outlawed right now.

And, puppy mill owners should bear all expenses to maintain animal shelters.

To Parasite Government: Where in the world would you get the idea that people in dog breeding business can't hate dogs? Those with dozens and hundreds of dogs poorly cared for, or not cared for, absolutly can hate dogs, and many of them do. They put friendly, happy little puppies into cages and watch them turn into old, matted, sick limping dogs with teeth falling out, all right under their very eyes. It is about money for most of the 'high volume' commercial breeders.(You go see how many will let you walk through their kennels...you won't get too many 'I'm so proud of my 183 dogs' tours. And you see how 'lovingly' they handle them.)

Well, if the state would license and inspect pet breeding operations (much like they do restaurants) it would benefit all. Cleaner facilities, healthier animals, and generate revenue for the state. If you are running an operation that doesn't meet standards, fine them and shut them down.

Parasite Government wrote:

People need to butt out of everyone else's business.
If a puppy mill sells bad product, or if stores sell sick dogs, they lose business. Not to mention, people do not go into the dog breeding business because they hate dogs.
These animal rights nuts are getting way out of line.

Well, you got the words "right" and "nuts" right, but it isnt the animal lovers those words apply to .

Ask a rural county commissioner what the benefit is to their community from Amish breeders, Petland and dog auctions. Anyone fool enough to give their worthless opinion about getting off the backs of "legitimate businesses" and the supposed benefit to communities of these breeders (the moral equivalent of crack dealers) has obviously never volunteered at a rural shelter, never been in a room with 20 trash bags full of dead dogs, or heard a puppy crying its last gasps as the blue "Lethal Plus" injection takes effect, or seen the bleeding, gangrenous result of a botched litter, dropped off at the pound in the dead of night by some cowardly would-be breeder.

Speaking as someone who has volunteered hundreds of hours dealing with the horror show that is a rural dog pound, I can tell you that the dogs bred and sold as a result of this type of "business" are a real burden on local economies. Individuals who buy these poor creatures either fail to spay/neuter or try to breed their own litters and the pound has to clean up the mess... by which I mean fill up dumpster after dumpster with dog corpses. A year of wading through filthy kennels full of hacking, puking dogs dying of diarrhea hoping to rescue a handful has qualified me to speak to this issue, because I know EXACTLY how many dogs are a direct result of these lowlife breeders' irresponsible, predatory activities. How the hell else do rare purebreds show up at a rural pound in these numbers?

I also know what sort of efforts and financial resources it takes county governments just to keep up with the task of killing and disposing of the dogs that can't be rehomed. Anyone who doubts this, go volunteer at a rural pound and get to know a thousand or so dead dogs in six months; name them, walk them, then clean out their empty kennels once they are meat in a bag. Tell yourself you made a difference because 3 or 4 dogs got adopted this week and try to forget the truth.

Thanks for your perspective from the 'trench', the bottom of the pit, end of the line, for unwanted dogs... "Anyone fool enough to give their worthless opinion about getting off the backs of "legitimate businesses" and the supposed benefit to communities of these breeders (the moral equivalent of crack dealers)...
A year of wading through filthy kennels full of hacking, puking dogs dying of diarrhea hoping to rescue a handful has qualified me to speak to this issue..."

easternohio wrote:

Ask a rural county commissioner what the benefit is to their community from Amish breeders, Petland and dog auctions. Anyone fool enough to give their worthless opinion about getting off the backs of "legitimate businesses" and the supposed benefit to communities of these breeders (the moral equivalent of crack dealers) has obviously never volunteered at a rural shelter, never been in a room with 20 trash bags full of dead dogs, or heard a puppy crying its last gasps as the blue "Lethal Plus" injection takes effect, or seen the bleeding, gangrenous result of a botched litter, dropped off at the pound in the dead of night by some cowardly would-be breeder.
Speaking as someone who has volunteered hundreds of hours dealing with the horror show that is a rural dog pound, I can tell you that the dogs bred and sold as a result of this type of "business" are a real burden on local economies. Individuals who buy these poor creatures either fail to spay/neuter or try to breed their own litters and the pound has to clean up the mess... by which I mean fill up dumpster after dumpster with dog corpses. A year of wading through filthy kennels full of hacking, puking dogs dying of diarrhea hoping to rescue a handful has qualified me to speak to this issue, because I know EXACTLY how many dogs are a direct result of these lowlife breeders' irresponsible, predatory activities. How the hell else do rare purebreds show up at a rural pound in these numbers?
I also know what sort of efforts and financial resources it takes county governments just to keep up with the task of killing and disposing of the dogs that can't be rehomed. Anyone who doubts this, go volunteer at a rural pound and get to know a thousand or so dead dogs in six months; name them, walk them, then clean out their empty kennels once they are meat in a bag. Tell yourself you made a difference because 3 or 4 dogs got adopted this week and try to forget the truth.

Those greedy, parasitic bastards ought to have to financially support every shelter in the state.

Would be great if everyone would contact their lawmakers about SB 95 and HB 124...the proposed law to regulate care provided by large commercial breeders for their dogs. There IS ALREADY in those bills, a phase out of the dog auctions in OH. However, in the mean time, as dogs flow in from PA and other states, it is one way for them to escape the horror of life 'in boxes', on the properties of the mass breeders, and that is by being bought by rescue.

I went to my local Petland today during my lunch break to pick up something for my pet and absolutely fell in love with a small puppy "marked down" because he is getting close to 4 months old. I have two other dogs and am a loving, responsible pet owner. So someone please explain to me why I shouldn't go in and plop down my $$ to care for a puppy who has been in a pet store for far too long and needs a home? He seems to be healthy, alert, and very loving. And no, I'm not being sarcastic--just need to see the other side.

Because that will open up a space for another puppy from a high volume breeder. Yes, it's heartbreaking. But, that is the truth. Best to stay out of the store, if you can. Petlands are folding in Ohio....help them fold in KY, also. If you do have to buy, and just can't help yourself, offer them oh...$200 which is about what they pay for each puppy when it comes in. Do beware that the puppy may well have diseases and congenital defects that are not yet apparent, and know where you will get the funds to fix it up, if you have to.

Susie wrote:

I went to my local Petland today during my lunch break to pick up something for my pet and absolutely fell in love with a small puppy "marked down" because he is getting close to 4 months old. I have two other dogs and am a loving, responsible pet owner. So someone please explain to me why I shouldn't go in and plop down my $$ to care for a puppy who has been in a pet store for far too long and needs a home? He seems to be healthy, alert, and very loving. And no, I'm not being sarcastic--just need to see the other side.

You should stay out of Petland in the first place, because by giving them your money, you approve of what happens to those poor dogs in puppy mills.

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Boycott Petland until they get it right.

easternohio wrote:

Ask a rural county commissioner what the benefit is to their community from Amish breeders, Petland and dog auctions. Anyone fool enough to give their worthless opinion about getting off the backs of "legitimate businesses" and the supposed benefit to communities of these breeders (the moral equivalent of crack dealers) has obviously never volunteered at a rural shelter, never been in a room with 20 trash bags full of dead dogs, or heard a puppy crying its last gasps as the blue "Lethal Plus" injection takes effect, or seen the bleeding, gangrenous result of a botched litter, dropped off at the pound in the dead of night by some cowardly would-be breeder.
Speaking as someone who has volunteered hundreds of hours dealing with the horror show that is a rural dog pound, I can tell you that the dogs bred and sold as a result of this type of "business" are a real burden on local economies. Individuals who buy these poor creatures either fail to spay/neuter or try to breed their own litters and the pound has to clean up the mess... by which I mean fill up dumpster after dumpster with dog corpses. A year of wading through filthy kennels full of hacking, puking dogs dying of diarrhea hoping to rescue a handful has qualified me to speak to this issue, because I know EXACTLY how many dogs are a direct result of these lowlife breeders' irresponsible, predatory activities. How the hell else do rare purebreds show up at a rural pound in these numbers?
I also know what sort of efforts and financial resources it takes county governments just to keep up with the task of killing and disposing of the dogs that can't be rehomed. Anyone who doubts this, go volunteer at a rural pound and get to know a thousand or so dead dogs in six months; name them, walk them, then clean out their empty kennels once they are meat in a bag. Tell yourself you made a difference because 3 or 4 dogs got adopted this week and try to forget the truth.

Actually they're worse than crack dealers, they're parasites. People choose to do crack, these poor animals don't have a choice.