Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Lililth_Satans_Wh_ore wrote:

<quoted text>kinda like christians equate faith to race... sad.... no more special rights for christians
stand up and protect children from the child indoctrinating terroristic christardo agenda

Woe, woe, slow down there girl!LOL You are being prejudice now. Don't put all Christians in the same catagory as another. You know better than that.LOL Now as far as child molesters, I never have problems with them at the prison, the majorty wants a child, not a grown person, very few are gay, most of them were married to the opposite sex. Careful, your going to strain that vein in your neck!LOL How you doing? Staying out of trouble I hope?

Not Yet Equal wrote:

"Prejudice, not being founded on reason, cannot be removed by argument” Samuel Johnson
"Prejudices are rarely overcome by argument; not being founded in reason they cannot be destroyed by logic”
Tryon Edwards

Great Quotes! So very true!

Lililth_Satans_Wh_ore wrote:

<quoted text>kinda like christians equate faith to race... sad.... no more special rights for christians
stand up and protect children from the child indoctrinating terroristic christardo agenda

Boo!

cjk wrote:

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I'll tell ya what's a curse. Equating the choice of engaging in sexual perversity with race! Now that's just as perverse and wrong as..........homosexuality.

You are equating marriage with "sexual perversity"? You must have an odd marriage.

But that's your own choice, and you are welcome to it, as long as you don't so it in the streets and scare the horses ...

cjk wrote:

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I understand clearly. Pretty much the vast majority of pedophile are also GAY. FACT.

No, the vast majority of pedophiles are neither gay or straight, regardless of the gender of their victems,,and their own gender.

A pedophile, by definition, is attracted only to children under the age of puberty.

Now, if youa re really talking about adults having sex with minors past puberty, then I can tell you that statistics show that a huge percentage of UNDERAGE pregnancies are cause by adult heterosexual males.

Scary, it's it?

cjk wrote:

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Ah yes nitwits otherwise know as people with morals'
We will never accept your perversity because it is self evident to everyone that it is perverse.
Stupidity is somehow convincing yourself that it isn't perverse.
Using someones human waste storage organ for intimate relations is perverse and definitely unhealthful as are most other perverse activities.
Furthermore there really is no such thing as being 'gay' but rather the engaging in of perverse sex to the point of identifying with it. SAD CONDITION.
Your Momma must be proud. LOL

And yet the only person talking about "perverse" is you. What types of odd obsessions and fantasies are going on in your mind?

And why project them on others?

Quest wrote:

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No, the vast majority of pedophiles are neither gay or straight, regardless of the gender of their victems,,and their own gender.
A pedophile, by definition, is attracted only to children under the age of puberty.
Now, if youa re really talking about adults having sex with minors past puberty, then I can tell you that statistics show that a huge percentage of UNDERAGE pregnancies are cause by adult heterosexual males.
Scary, it's it?

Couple 'minor' corrections;

-Pedophiles are attracted to underage children that also happen to be of a single sex.(Either SS or opposite.). Only, they leave out the last part to be politically correct (at the expense and safety of children).

-Adults having sex with children of the same sex never impregnate.

Do you really believe that information is not important too???

Quest wrote:

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And yet the only person talking about "perverse" is you. What types of odd obsessions and fantasies are going on in your mind?
And why project them on others?

Isn't that a blatant lie on so many levels!?

Do you even begin to comprehend the level of denial you are expressing???

Not Yet Equal wrote:

"Prejudice, not being founded on reason, cannot be removed by argument” Samuel Johnson
"Prejudices are rarely overcome by argument; not being founded in reason they cannot be destroyed by logic”
Tryon Edwards

'Prejudice ends where it meets a swift kick in the nads.' Rev. Jack

I respect free choice. Does not mean I understand it. I just do not understand same sex anything. I am not closed minded. If any of my children were to come out, I would support them. I just do not get it. The physical parts do not match up, making procreation impossible. I try to understand but nothing clicks. My logic is why can't gay men and lesbian women hook up? Perhaps that is a stupid statement but that is all I got.

KiMare wrote:

Once again, gays find themselves in the same camp as pedophiles, even though the APA says they are 'out'.

What a piece of work you are. You're always spouting off about denial and reality , and then you pull a statement like this.

Your reality is truly delusional.

Marengo Jon wrote:

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What a piece of work you are. You're always spouting off about denial and reality , and then you pull a statement like this.
Your reality is truly delusional.

The reality of your response? Nothing more than scoffing masquerading as intelligence.

You are always so easy.

Smile.

Choices wrote:

I respect free choice. Does not mean I understand it. I just do not understand same sex anything. I am not closed minded. If any of my children were to come out, I would support them. I just do not get it. The physical parts do not match up, making procreation impossible. I try to understand but nothing clicks. My logic is why can't gay men and lesbian women hook up? Perhaps that is a stupid statement but that is all I got.

well, i guess that to gays and lesbians the parts seem to match up just fine... not only that, but nobody should be making babies for the next 30 to 35 years anyway, so that part doesn't matter.

why would a gay man want to marry a lesbian woman... or for that fact, any woman at all? they're still opposite sexes, aren't they? i mean, think about it.

KiMare wrote:

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The reality of your response? Nothing more than scoffing masquerading as intelligence.
You are always so easy.
Smile.

You don't get to tell us all about reality and denial, while simultaneously spouting blatant lies. There is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. None. You can't prove that there is, no more than you could prove that being gay is a defect (in spite of the fact that I asked you about 1,000 times). You don't get to assert that Sandusky is a closeted gay, rather than a sick, twisted pedophile. You may THINK that he's a gay man, but you have no proof. None. If you do, pony up. But you can't, Blanche,'cuz you've got nothing.

In profiles of pedophiles (by psychologists and the FBI) there is never a connection between sexual identity and the crimes against children. In fact, they clearly state that most pedophiles are heterosexual men, most often married.

The next time you point fingers about "reality" and "denial", kindly remember that there are 3 fingers pointing back at you.

Marengo Jon wrote:

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You don't get to tell us all about reality and denial, while simultaneously spouting blatant lies. There is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. None. You can't prove that there is, no more than you could prove that being gay is a defect (in spite of the fact that I asked you about 1,000 times). You don't get to assert that Sandusky is a closeted gay, rather than a sick, twisted pedophile. You may THINK that he's a gay man, but you have no proof. None. If you do, pony up. But you can't, Blanche,'cuz you've got nothing.
In profiles of pedophiles (by psychologists and the FBI) there is never a connection between sexual identity and the crimes against children. In fact, they clearly state that most pedophiles are heterosexual men, most often married.
The next time you point fingers about "reality" and "denial", kindly remember that there are 3 fingers pointing back at you.

Sandusky did three things to look normal and disguise his pedophilia.
1. Married
2. Claimed to be a Christian
3. Pretended to care about kids
The exact three things gays are trying to do to look normal.
It does not change reality.
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The three areas of discussion on this forum are;
-Gay unions supposedly the same as marriage.
-Christianity supposedly excuses homosexual immorality.
-Gay couples make just as good parents as biological parents.
Please define the differences, otherwise, you come off as idiotic gay twirling.
Again.
Smile.

I simply pointed out where they are the same. You have not explained how those similarities are not so.

-You demand 'marriage' and not gay unions because you want the image of marriage.
-You desecrate the integrity of Christianity because you want the mirage of morality.
-You sacrifice the health of children because you want the facade of family.

Like pedophilia, a diabolical denial of reality that your condition is not normal.

WOW! The reality that some of you live in is severely distorted reality. Reality is, equal rights are equal rights. You either are for equal rights or against them. You cant have both. You want equal rights and to not be discriminated against, well, that's what all people should get, not just you because you have decided that what someone else does is against YOUR beliefs and should be treated differently. I don't give a ish about what you do or don't do. But damn EVERYONE should be allowed to have equal rights.

KiMare wrote:

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The three areas of discussion on this forum are;
-Gay unions supposedly the same as marriage.
-Christianity supposedly excuses homosexual immorality.
-Gay couples make just as good parents as biological parents.

--A union isn't the same as marriage. That's why marriage equality is inevitable.
--There's no need to "excuse" homosexuality in Biblical perspectives which don't recognize homosexuality as a sin. At any rate, we're still not a Theocracy so this is moot point.
--Yes, I would maintain that same-sex parents can do just as well as heterosexual parents. You would have us believe that a penis and a vagina are prerequisites to parenting.

KiMare wrote:

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-You demand 'marriage' and not gay unions because you want the image of marriage.

Wrong, I don't give a shit about "image". I want the same federal benefits for my marriage that Britney Spears was entitled to for her 15 minutes. When I have to hire a lawyer to get "equal rights", we don't have equality.

KiMare wrote:

<quoted text>-You desecrate the integrity of Christianity because you want the mirage of morality.[QUOTE]

I don't happen to believe that being gay is at odds with being a Christian. You're the one who has the problem here, not I. So far as marriage is concerned, it's irrelevant. Whether, or not, you personally think my marriage is moral is irrelevant to me.

[QUOTE who="KiMare"]<quo ted text>-You sacrifice the health of children because you want the facade of family.

Have I? Really? Conjecture.

Choices wrote:

I respect free choice. Does not mean I understand it. I just do not understand same sex anything. I am not closed minded. If any of my children were to come out, I would support them. I just do not get it. The physical parts do not match up, making procreation impossible. I try to understand but nothing clicks. My logic is why can't gay men and lesbian women hook up? Perhaps that is a stupid statement but that is all I got.

First off being gay isn't a choice, "free choice" has nothing to do with this. They don't hook up because they aren't attracted to one another.

I am totally for gay rights. However, I do struggle with this one. To me,, it is like, me asking to have the same privileges as a blind or handicap person. You know, I could say,,, why can't I get the same rights as them. It is totally not the same thing.

A civil union is defined as a marriage between a man and a woman. It isn't,,,, a marriage between 2 people, no matter thier gender. I think that gays should have the same rights as anyone, but, not more rights than anyone.

MR C wrote:

I am totally for gay rights. However, I do struggle with this one. To me,, it is like, me asking to have the same privileges as a blind or handicap person. You know, I could say,,, why can't I get the same rights as them. It is totally not the same thing.
A civil union is defined as a marriage between a man and a woman. It isn't,,,, a marriage between 2 people, no matter thier gender. I think that gays should have the same rights as anyone, but, not more rights than anyone.

you're very confused, aren't you?