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Okay, I am a D.C., but this guy is scary! The self described miracle doc uses a lot of antecotal stories, but lacks evidence. This guy is the type of chiropractor that ruins the name chiropractic. Unsubstantiated claims of curing disease. There is evidence of chiropractic being effective for musculoskeletal disorders, and the rest is dodgy. Sounds more gimmicky and marketing than good practice. Shame on you "miracledoc"

Chriropractice Medicine - unsubstantiated claims of curing disease...you couldn't have said it any better.

"chiropractor", there are currently more than 200+ chiropractic techniques/treatments being used by chiropractors across the United States. Techniques known as hio, nucca, thompson, gonstead, AK, logan basic, pierce, sot dnft etc etc. NONE have any research to support their use.

You are correct. Some treatments performed by chiropractors are credible and useful. These treatments, however, are not specific to chiropractic. They are well understood and researched treatments such as mild spinal manipulation to treat uncomplicated low back pain.

Chiropractors are woefully undertrained and indeed, most chiropractic students graduate without ever examining truly sick or neurologically impaired patients. And that is scary and dangerous. Period.

The chiropractic diaper needs to be emptied.

Chiropractic Medicine - Quackery

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Chiropractor wrote:

Okay, I am a D.C., but this guy is scary! The self described miracle doc uses a lot of antecotal stories, but lacks evidence. This guy is the type of chiropractor that ruins the name chiropractic. Unsubstantiated claims of curing disease. There is evidence of chiropractic being effective for musculoskeletal disorders, and the rest is dodgy. Sounds more gimmicky and marketing than good practice. Shame on you "miracledoc"

who is this Chiropractor? save us

Wisdom wrote:

"chiropractor", there are currently more than 200+ chiropractic techniques/treatments being used by chiropractors across the United States. Techniques known as hio, nucca, thompson, gonstead, AK, logan basic, pierce, sot dnft etc etc. NONE have any research to support their use.
You are correct. Some treatments performed by chiropractors are credible and useful. These treatments, however, are not specific to chiropractic. They are well understood and researched treatments such as mild spinal manipulation to treat uncomplicated low back pain.
Chiropractors are woefully undertrained and indeed, most chiropractic students graduate without ever examining truly sick or neurologically impaired patients. And that is scary and dangerous. Period.
The chiropractic diaper needs to be emptied.

See everyone? Do you see how Wisdom ends all of his posts? He liberally uses the words 'diaper' and 'bedwetting.' In fact, he has a fixation to those words. Now tell me, would you trust a grown man who mentions diapers and bedwetting dozens of times per day? Would you trust a man like that with your children??? I hope not! Wisdom is a creep--pure and simple. A creep. He lies about everything. He has no credentials. He has a major chip on his shoulders. And he's jealous of chiropractors, especially the successful ones. He's ANGRY as hell at the successful ones. He is a negative person and wants everyone else to be just as negative and unhappy as he is. Wisdom, I understand, little man. Really I do. But stop being so angry and frustrated. You need to see a good psychiatrist. If you can't afford one, maybe the state can help you. Good luck.

mr. baines, I assume you are chiropractor.

As a chiropractor you are well aware that every major chiropractic association supports the idea that chiropractors can treat bed wetting.

It is not me that says that. For example, both the International chiropractic association and the International pediatric chiropractic association make those ridiculous claims.

I can provide those links for you if you wish. I suggest you stop calling people liars and start to clean up your own field. Your continual denials help no one.

Wisdom wrote:

mr. baines, I assume you are chiropractor.
As a chiropractor you are well aware that every major chiropractic association supports the idea that chiropractors can treat bed wetting.
It is not me that says that. For example, both the International chiropractic association and the International pediatric chiropractic association make those ridiculous claims.
I can provide those links for you if you wish. I suggest you stop calling people liars and start to clean up your own field. Your continual denials help no one.

"I can provide those links for you if you wish" HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH. I'll just bet you can, Wise Liar. I'll just bet you can! See, you're the copy and paste champion!! If the U.S. had a copy and paste olympic team, you would be the coach! ahhahaahah. Is there ANYTHING you can't copy and paste! Man, you're good. Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm, show me them links. Dammmmmmmmmm. Show off your copy and paste skills. Dammmmmmmm. I think EVERYONE wants to see them. How in the hell did you become so good at copy and paste! I envy your skill!! Man, you're good. HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA. The copy and paste king is also the LYING KING. A double whammy! I got it! I got it! Wisdom, you and me----shhhhhhhhhhhh. Whadda ya say you and me, me and you, shhhhhhhh, me and you copy and paste all the negative things we can find about chiropractic and post them here! That'll show 'em. C'mon. Show me your copy and paste skills--LOSER! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA

how else would you provide a link if you didn't copy and paste?

L. Baines you don't make sense. You obviously have a problem with anyone who questions chiropractors.

Only a Chiropractor can determine is vaccines may cause subluxations

I think Baines is as qualified as anyone MD/DO to serve as a PCP

Wisdom is misinformed, I think we should educate him, maybe we can provided some tutoring for him

I think Botnick and Barreter along with Novella could all benefits from a tutoring session on the miracles of Chiorpractic

Chiropractors get more hours in diagnosis than MD/DO just look it up for yourself and you will see that it is true

Chiropractic is the Primary Care profession of the future

Do yourself a favor and choose a chiropractor for all your primary care needs

This clown just baited everyone with that BS topix post just to bash a Dr that he has a problem with. Chicken s h i t move. Why don't you talk with the Dr. Some forms of Therapy may not work with some individuals. Im sure this Dr does not think of himself as a "miracledoc" (your word). I am almost certain that some of his patients benift from his treatment.

Debra wrote:

how else would you provide a link if you didn't copy and paste?
L. Baines you don't make sense. You obviously have a problem with anyone who questions chiropractors.

That's all Wisdom can do is copy and paste. He's the copy and paste pro! Wisdom has nothing, and I mean NOTHING else going for him. Wisdom is NOT an expert on chiropractic. He has NO degrees. No clinical experience. No license to practice any form of health care. So he became an "expert" in the coveted 'copy and paste' technique. And he is EXCELLENT at that! Man, is he good! I envy his copy and paste skills.

"mikFirst of all mr. baines, you have no idea what degrees I have. Indeed, you have no idea who I am.

I am, however, incredibly knowledgeable about the chiropractic enterprise.

Thank you Debra, it appears that this self proclaimed chiropractor does not like anyone questioning the way he makes money.

For the rest of you who would like objective evidence that the major chiropractic organizations claim that "chiropractor" can treat bed wetting using any of the more than 200+ techniques/treatment currently in use by chiropractors nationwide, here is but one link proving my point. This one from the "International Pediatric Chiropractic Association" (the largest chiropractic pediatric organization in the world, by the way).........

http://www.icpa4kids.org/research/chiropracti...

Very bizarre these chiropractors.

Lastly, while mr. baines has implied that "he" does not treat bed wetting,(an obvious attempt to seem "above it all"), he will not say emphatically, that chiropractic cannot treat/cure bedwetting. And that is very telling.

Wisdom wrote:

"mikFirst of all mr. baines, you have no idea what degrees I have. Indeed, you have no idea who I am.
I am, however, incredibly knowledgeable about the chiropractic enterprise.
Thank you Debra, it appears that this self proclaimed chiropractor does not like anyone questioning the way he makes money.
For the rest of you who would like objective evidence that the major chiropractic organizations claim that "chiropractor" can treat bed wetting using any of the more than 200+ techniques/treatment currently in use by chiropractors nationwide, here is but one link proving my point. This one from the "International Pediatric Chiropractic Association" (the largest chiropractic pediatric organization in the world, by the way).........
http://www.icpa4kids.org/research/chiropracti...
Very bizarre these chiropractors.
Lastly, while mr. baines has implied that "he" does not treat bed wetting,(an obvious attempt to seem "above it all"), he will not say emphatically, that chiropractic cannot treat/cure bedwetting. And that is very telling.

One look at your smoke and mirror posts says it all--you're an angry, frusted loser. I understand. There is still hope for you. You must know some good psychiatrists in your area. They can give you the drugs you need. Good luck in mental therapy.

Hey L Baines you need to learn how to debate. Point, counterpoint. Get it?

Wisdom puts his research on the table, while all you do is call names. If you were really a practicing chiropractor, you would disprove his claims by putting your own "proven" research on the table too.

I feel sorry for your patients. Where'd you get your license? Aruba?

MBP wrote:

Hey L Baines you need to learn how to debate. Point, counterpoint. Get it?
Wisdom puts his research on the table, while all you do is call names. If you were really a practicing chiropractor, you would disprove his claims by putting your own "proven" research on the table too.
I feel sorry for your patients. Where'd you get your license? Aruba?

Wisdom does not debate. He finds obscure facts, posts them and spins them to discredit chiropractic. He is not qualified to debate. If he clearly listed his credentials as I have, then I would. Alas, he has none. Wisdom is simply a creep who repeats the words 'diaper' and 'bed wetting'. That alone makes him a creep. Keep your kids away from Wisdom.

L Baines wrote:

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Wisdom does not debate. He finds obscure facts, posts them and spins them to discredit chiropractic. He is not qualified to debate. If he clearly listed his credentials as I have, then I would. Alas, he has none. Wisdom is simply a creep who repeats the words 'diaper' and 'bed wetting'. That alone makes him a creep. Keep your kids away from Wisdom.

that's easy to do. its the internet.

L Baines Hater wrote:

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that's easy to do. its the internet.

Wisdom said "you have no idea who I am." True, so why don't you tell us. Or are you afraid? See folks, a lying snake like Wisdom who is also a fraud, is just a garden variety, frustrated schoolyard bully--who runs like a scared cockroach when the lights come on. See folks, this nut known as Wisdom doesn't have any degrees, credentials or clinical experience, yet says he's a chiropractic expert. Clearly, he is not. He simply recites his same old mantra time and again---DIAPER, DIAPER, DIAPER, BED WETTING, BED WETTING, BED WETTING. See what I mean? And Wisdom calls that a debate. hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah ahahah
Wisdom truly is the Lying King.

Wisdom wrote:

"mikFirst of all mr. baines, you have no idea what degrees I have. Indeed, you have no idea who I am.
I am, however, incredibly knowledgeable about the chiropractic enterprise.
Thank you Debra, it appears that this self proclaimed chiropractor does not like anyone questioning the way he makes money.
For the rest of you who would like objective evidence that the major chiropractic organizations claim that "chiropractor" can treat bed wetting using any of the more than 200+ techniques/treatment currently in use by chiropractors nationwide, here is but one link proving my point. This one from the "International Pediatric Chiropractic Association" (the largest chiropractic pediatric organization in the world, by the way).........
http://www.icpa4kids.org/research/chiropracti...
Very bizarre these chiropractors.
Lastly, while mr. baines has implied that "he" does not treat bed wetting,(an obvious attempt to seem "above it all"), he will not say emphatically, that chiropractic cannot treat/cure bedwetting. And that is very telling.

What the deceitful fraud and overall scam artist Wisdom also fails to 'copy and paste' are the multitude of chiropractic diplomate (post graduate) programs chiropractic take--making them qualified as a primary care physician: Here are two: http://www.acnb.org/ ,
http://www.gatewaynaturalmedicine.com/userfil...
Of course Wisdom, the liar and overall scam artist with NO credentials, purposely omits these as well as dozens of other highly qualified post graduate chiropractic programs.
Wisdom has been exposed for the liar and fake he is. Wisdom is NOT, I repeat, NOT an expert on chiropractic. Mr. Wisdom "smoke and mirror" only aims to deceive. He's a fraud's fraud. Wisdom is also a loser. Wisdom, the Lying King, lives!

Very funny mr. baines. You keep forgetting that I am incredibly knowledgeable about the chiropractic enterprise.

So, I see you linked us to the "acnb" chiropractic organization. This chiropractic organization is a for profit organization that gives weekend classes, usually at hotels at different locations throughout the country.

The certification that this organization bestows requires the chiropractic graduate (graduates, who in fact never examined diagnosed or treated any truly sick patients before they graduated chiropractic school, mind you), to attend 300 hours of didactic learning at these "Holiday Inns" and other places where they can access classroom type settings. They then take a test to get their certification. Fine. Nothing inherently wrong with that.

The point that mr. baines refuses to acknowledge is that chiropractors never but NEVER examine, diagnose or treat truly sick patients, including neurologically ill/injured patients before they graduate and call themselves "primary care physicians". Indeed, the chiropractors who obtain the acnb's certification do not have the clinical experience to qualify as primary care physicians. Frankly only an idiot would consider chiropractors as qualified to be "PCPs".

mr. baines, please stop your juvenile name calling. I'm sure you would feel better about yourself if you just practiced a little more honesty.

mr. baines, as you proclaim that you are a chiropractor, what are your thoughts on "upper cervical" chiropractors such as nucca or hio chiropractors who treat every and I mean every patient that comes into their offices, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR CONDITION, by pushing on ONLY their top two vertebrae?

Can you at least start cleaning up the chiropractic mess by denouncing these chiropractors as charlatans and quacks?

Heck, many chiropractic schools continue to teach this quackery. life and palmer and sherman to name just three of them.