Kansas Voting Disqualification Amendment - Mental Illness

Steve Seefeld wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill. All politics is about anymore are two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways.
Until all the biased, self serving, backside kissing, clowns are thrown out of office, our laws will continue to reflect their personal agendas. I can't count how many times I've heard someone say they voted for someone because they were the lesser of two evils. That is an insane statement if I ever heard one.
Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to and get together and find that new candidate who is better than the two evils and send a real message. But it won't happen, because 90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other.

Agree 100%... BRAVO!

No BRAVO from me Steve. I disagree.

I disagree with your statement "most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill." Most voters are not mentally ill. You like the word most?

I also do not believe "All politics is about anymore are two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways." Try to have a positive attitude Steve. Try.

A voter says "they voted someone because they were the lesser of two evils." The voter is giving their opinion. You write "That is an insane statement if I ever heard one." No, that is not an insane statement.

You also state "90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other." I disagree with your percentage and your opinion. Brainwashed? 90%?

You also state "Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to..." Could you explain that one, Steve?

To "I disagree" Which political party do you belong to?

And do you really think that voting the lesser of two evils is being intelligent? So given that would you vote for the guy who wants to take away one of your rights, or the one who wants to take away one of your neighbors that you don't like?

Are you more important than your neighbor because you don't agree with him? Most voters seem to think so or they'd be demanding strict Constitutionalists instead of the parade of agenda pushing zealots that infest both parties.

And if you don't understand what voting for who you are told to means, you're barely worth explaining it to, but I am talking about all the spin doctors, all the biased news networks, all those political campaigners who have brainwashed YOU into thinking that voting for the lesser of two evils is better than refusing to vote for anyone that doesn't represent every citizen equally, and without favor or bias.

Look at Eric Clary. He is a shining example of someone with a mental illness fighting for the rights of himself and his immediate family. He thinks he can win an argument that he's destined to lose...don't we all wish we had that kind of gumption!

Steve Seefeld wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill. All politics is about anymore is two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways.
Until all the biased, self serving, backside kissing, clowns are thrown out of office, our laws will continue to reflect their personal agendas. I can't count how many times I've heard someone say they voted for someone because they were the lesser of two evils. That is an insane statement if I ever heard one.
Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to and get together and find that new candidate who is better than the two evils and send a real message. But it won't happen, because 90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other.

Your comments are nonsense. I am not looking for a pen pal. I will simply state I disagree with your nonsense. You comments are laughable, especially if YOU believe them. LOL

Here is some of my reply which I updated.

No BRAVO from me Steve. I disagree.

I disagree with your statement "most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill." Most voters are not mentally ill. You like the word most?

I also do not believe "All politics is about anymore are two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways." Try to have a positive attitude Steve. Try.

A voter says "they voted someone because they were the lesser of two evils." The voter is giving their opinion. You write "That is an insane statement if I ever heard one." No, that is not an insane statement.

You also state "90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other." I disagree with your percentage and your opinion. Brainwashed? 90%?

You also state "Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to..." Your comments do take up space. Find yourself a pen pal. I am not interested.

Generally speaking your coments are bs.

I don't need to see your reply again. It had no substance the first time. And if I were looking for a pen pal it would be someone who doesn't see the world with blinders on. Just go right ahead and follow those carrots on a string. I'll reserve my comments for someone who can comprehend. Have a good day.

i disagree wrote:

I disagree with your statement "most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill." Most voters are not mentally ill.

Anyone who actively supported Brownback and/or Kovach is definitely either mentally ill or cynically manipulative, more so the latter. But as to the rank and file voters, who did notcontribute to either or put up a sign, etc? Most were just tricked into voting against themselves.

Some people in KS as elsewhere still have party loyalties dating from the Civil War.

Happens that I was in a meeting today with Senator Jeff King, 15th District. He totally agrees that the ammendment to remove the existing language in the Kansas Constitution is extremely important.

So rally your friends and get this piece of crap out of the books as it were. Don't like it, vote against it! Otherwise, suffer the results.

Apparently some users don't know what spamming is. Because the guy who posted the exact same things twice, which by the way is a type of forum spamming, is not the one who was called a spammer.

But I see a few here can think for themselves and do see past the smoke and mirrors of politics, so I'll keep watching.

By the way, my opinions of politicians stated here are mostly observations of career politicians. I know quite a few local politicians who are in it hoping to help their communities. And there are even a few Washington politicians who mean well. The problem is that very very few will speak against their own fellow party members no matter how corrupt they are.

Think about it. When corruption is exposed it's nearly always one party exposing someone in the other. Or it's someone completely outside both circles. If each of the two controlling parties were as devoted to exposing the wrongs done by their own members as they are the ones on the other side of the aisle, we could actually have a decent government.

Thank you for the spam votes. But I really don't need help proving my points.

Steve pick me up a family pack at Als Chickenette.

Dennis Rader wrote:

Steve pick me up a family pack at Als Chickenette.

I thought the state would have killed you by now BTK.

Steve Seefeld wrote:

Thank you for the spam votes. But I really don't need help proving my points.

You did not prove these points:

As far as I'm concerned, most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill. All politics is about anymore is two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways.

Until all the biased, self serving, backside kissing, clowns are thrown out of office, our laws will continue to reflect their personal agendas. I can't count how many times I've heard someone say they voted for someone because they were the lesser of two evils. That is an insane statement if I ever heard one.

Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to and get together and find that new candidate who is better than the two evils and send a real message. But it won't happen, because 90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other.

Vote to continue your slavery. Who owns the voting machine company???

lol wrote:

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You did not prove these points:
As far as I'm concerned, most of the politicians currently in office are solid proof that most voters are mentally ill. All politics is about anymore is two parties in control who strive to screw us over, each in different ways.
Until all the biased, self serving, backside kissing, clowns are thrown out of office, our laws will continue to reflect their personal agendas. I can't count how many times I've heard someone say they voted for someone because they were the lesser of two evils. That is an insane statement if I ever heard one.
Voters need to quit voting for who they are told to and get together and find that new candidate who is better than the two evils and send a real message. But it won't happen, because 90% of America has been brainwashed by one side or the other.

I'm sure the majority don't see themselves as mentally ill. Misguided is a better word but the topic wasn't about being misguided. Other than that, most of the country has known alot of the rest of this for decades, but are just afraid of real change. What cave have you been living in?

By the way, lol is a nice name. Your surname, or given name? Gives you lots of credibilty. ;)

Steve Seefeld wrote:

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I'm sure the majority don't see themselves as mentally ill. Misguided is a better word but the topic wasn't about being misguided. Other than that, most of the country has known alot of the rest of this for decades, but are just afraid of real change. What cave have you been living in?
By the way, lol is a nice name. Your surname, or given name? Gives you lots of credibilty. ;)

No, the majority of Americans not only do not see themselves as mentally ill, but are not mentally ill. Obviously you are not a professional qualified to diagnose anyone. I find your comments laughable, and even more laughable you believe your own exaggerations. And no, 90% of Americans have not been "brainwashed." No, most of the country has not known a lot of the rest of this. You exaggerate, make generalities, express your opinions as fact, and you like to overuse the word "most." A portion of the topic is mental illness, but that does not make a majority of Americans mentally ill. There are figures and estimates on what percentage of Americans are mentally ill. Nothing comes close to your opinion.

I will say I do not live in a cave literally or figuratively speaking, another exaggeration of your's.

You have not proven your points because you cannot.

The lol is finding your comments laughable and has nothing to do with my credibility. Your comments, generally speaking are not credible. I am referring to your majority of Americans being mentally ill and what you state is proof of that, your 90% of Americans being "brainwashed." Your comments are not credible.

Beaner wrote:

I do not believe it will be in the best interests of the people of the state of Kansas to strip the legislature of the authority to pass any laws of any kind. They are our lawmaking body and supposed to have Kansas citizens best interests at heart. I also realize that from the legislature's voting record of recent years, most people here in Kansas think most of the the legislature has mental illness also. I will go no on this one.

Don't we have enough Democrats voting already?

Don't we have enough liberal Democrats voting already?

lol wrote:

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I will say I do not live in a cave literally or figuratively speaking, another exaggeration of your's.
You have not proven your points because you cannot.
The lol is finding your comments laughable and has nothing to do with my credibility. Your comments, generally speaking are not credible. I am referring to your majority of Americans being mentally ill and what you state is proof of that, your 90% of Americans being "brainwashed." Your comments are not credible.

And you, so brave and confident that you can't use your real name, have not proven that I am not correct. You do absolutely nothing except complain about my statements. you offer no counter debate, you offer nothing except your anonymous opinions.

As I stated, misguided would be a better description of the average voter, but this topic was about mental illness. The saddest thing of all is that you don't even understand that my comment about politicians in office being proof that most voters are mentally ill was made as sarcastic humor.

But brainwashed, yes I very much stand by the statement that politicians and the media brainwash the voters. Tell me you honestly believe that either Obama or Romney intend to do most of what they promise in their campaigns and you will be a shining example of brainwashing. If you say you do not believe that they are honest and still intend to vote for either of them, then it may be unfair to call you insane, but definitely not too bright.

I might be a little off base here, but isn't it a guaranteed right of all American citizens to be able to cast a ballot, of course states may impose individual disqualifiers in some instances, like some states removing the right to vote from felons because of past criminal acts but it isn’t like persons who have been determined to be “mentally ill", made the decision to be that way on their own volition, or by any act on their part.

Now I might agree to those not being “mentally competent” as a disqualifier, but not “mentally ill”.

To me it is just much too broad of a term.

And just who gets to determine if someone is "mentally ill"?

I know several people, many of the type right here on Topix, that figure - anyone that doesn't agree with them or their opinion, must be 'mentally ill'.

The next thing you know, voters will have to pass an “IQ” test to be able to vote.

Of course now that I think about it…

Naaa, just kidding ~