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Voluntarist wrote:
Most Americans are brain washed, they do not have the ability to analyze facts that are contrary to their programming, they are victims of mind control, you have to feel sorry for most.

This is a country that has people joining up in a mass sacrifice to die for the greed of multi national corporations.

And some of the masterminds like Kissinger state openly that the military are a bunch of dumb stupid animals.

Yet he is praised for his efforts.
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You are right, not only Americans but all white people have this quality, that they believe every thing that they read in Newspapers and TV screens.

They have very little analyzing powers themselves and they give this job to their “experts” who take them wherever they like.

And you can see that by the “dumb” comments that we see posted on these threads.

Anyone who has closely observed western society has come to the same conclusion.

That is why Jews were the first to use this and exploit it to their advantage and they do not allow any one to come in this field.
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MUQ wrote:
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Not only Americans but all white people have this quality, that they believe every thing that they read in Newspapers and TV screens.

They have very little analyzing powers themselves.
And the Muslims blindly believe all the nonsense contained in their Quran!
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Yes, that was a bore, trying to compare everything from pictures and probes.
Exactly, fool.

This is why I asked you in an earlier post whether you had direct access to a copy of the original architectural and engineering plans of the WTC.

Besides, have you visited and inspected the sites after 9/11?

Obviously, not.

So, what're you trying to prove on the basis of hearsay and convoluted thinking?

Expectedly, you have very poor reasoning skills and zero intuition.
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May 22, 2012
 
MAAT:

The brain is the seat of our psychological, intellectual and emotional states.

QUESTIONS:

1) What creates synaptic inter-connections - the synapses themselves or the workings of our psychological, intellectual and emotional states?

2) Why do the synaptic connections keep changing?

3) Why does every individual have a unique brain wiring pattern?

4) Is brain matter the origin of our psychological, intellectual and emotional states or do these states underlie and exceed the brain apparatus?

5) Is consciousness derivative of matter or is matter derived from consciousness? Give sound reasons and supporting evidences wherever possible.

PS: Stop that dumb habit of copy and paste that you're always indulging in. use the little intelligence you have for a change to answer in depth the above fundamental questions.

(smiles in advance)
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MUQ wrote:
Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 18
By Jeffrey Rudolph
THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE QUIZ QUESTIONS:
Q18. Approximately how many Lebanese civilians were killed by Israel during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon?
(CONTD.)
Approximately how many Israeli civilians were killed by Arabs during their 1948 invasion of Israel?

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May 22, 2012
 
One thread is enough, i'm not going to respond to nonsense or repeat myselve.

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MUQ wrote:
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You are right, not only Americans but all white people have this quality, that they believe every thing that they read in Newspapers and TV screens.
They have very little analyzing powers themselves and they give this job to their “experts” who take them wherever they like.
And you can see that by the “dumb” comments that we see posted on these threads.
Anyone who has closely observed western society has come to the same conclusion.
That is why Jews were the first to use this and exploit it to their advantage and they do not allow any one to come in this field.
I find the most gullable people the ones that keep repeating that the pilars were not hollow or that they were all the way to the top the same solid size, and that have not even scrutinized all available pictures! So as to make a proper floorplan based on all available information.
Not even bothered to look at what i provided.
At least i questioned the entire issue to breaking point, none of you do.
MUQ is just grumbling because OBL got the blame as well as the salafya taliban, and voluntarist is not asking the proper questions. horses and water!
How come the collegue that saw the least, as in not being the one running out of the 3rd or 4th floor of the basement is the only one telling his story. When obviously the burned survivor could provide more accurate information!
Also the people asking questions have to stay on the ball.
And make an active search.
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What about the part where it says that WTC towers were built to withstand strike by a fully loaded jetliner at full speed?

I know you have forgotten all about that!!

So out of those 4 skyscrapers 2 went down on 9/11? What about other 2?

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That was an estimate never an established fact!
Saying something does not make it true.(Let's see how this goes down in the pious crowd! ;))

It was even mentioned in one of the sites, but i realise googling is a bit of an issue for some.

That i think an interesting question, but i leave that for you to find out.
Structural and fema guidelines are something to think of.

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60. Nearly all WTC steel was shipped out to Asia and melted down for recycling. This destruction of evidence is pathological science in the extreme, especially considering the protests of scientists and engineers who tried to stop the destruction of this evidence.

Yes that was a bore, trying to compare everything from pictures and probes.
With incomplete specs of the build and material in the first place.
Though on the other hand it made little sense to keep it all lying around after the experts went over it.
And usually you want to see the basements floor to establish what happened.
Have beams there rainbow-arced? Can we still establish that?
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That is the argument of people who have “closed their minds” that official version is 100 % correct and there is no error in that.

Every other evidence that casts doubt on official version is rejected summarily and the official version (even when in doubt) is accepted as “most reasonable” rendering.

Best thing in this situation is to every one post his story and leave the judgement to readers or to God, who shall decide who was speaking the truth.
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Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 18A

By Jeffrey Rudolph

THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE QUIZ QUESTIONS:

Q18.

Approximately how many Lebanese civilians were killed by Israel during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon?

Ans. 18.

10,000.

(CONTD.)
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MAAT wrote:
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I find the most gullable people the ones that keep repeating that the pilars were not hollow or that they were all the way to the top the same solid size, and that have not even scrutinized all available pictures! So as to make a proper floorplan based on all available information.
Not even bothered to look at what i provided.
At least i questioned the entire issue to breaking point, none of you do.
MUQ is just grumbling because OBL got the blame as well as the salafya taliban, and voluntarist is not asking the proper questions. horses and water!
How come the collegue that saw the least, as in not being the one running out of the 3rd or 4th floor of the basement is the only one telling his story. When obviously the burned survivor could provide more accurate information!
Also the people asking questions have to stay on the ball.
And make an active search.
MOST of those asking for 9/11 truth are Non Muslims, and have no sympathies for Muslims.

But they are professional people and they want to know the truth when they are not satisfied with official version.

They can atleast want to save themselves from accusing fingers of future generations, who would say "what sort of dumb professionals" were those engineers and sceintists, who drank every thing that was "pored down their throats" from White House and NIST and FEMA.

And if you go to analyze 9/11 rationally and logically, NONE of that makes any sense, for every single issue their must be some coincidences.....how in EVERY thing there were coincdences and why ALL proved true on the eve of 9/11? No one knows.

Now you are trying to make a twist by involving OBL and Salafi and what nots.

In the report I am providing, there is least mention of OBL, Al Qaida or Taliban or any organization.

That shows that you have ran out of arguments and want to play "Nationalesm and Patriotism card".

We might not know all the facts, but what our president has said must be true!!
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May 22, 2012
 
MUQ wrote:
Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 18A
By Jeffrey Rudolph
THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE QUIZ QUESTIONS:
Q18.
Approximately how many Lebanese civilians were killed by Israel during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon?
Ans. 18.
10,000.
(CONTD.)
Approximately how many Israeli civilians were killed by Arabs during their 1948 invasion of Israel?

6,373 Israelis were killed, nearly one percent of the Jewish population of 650,000.

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That is the argument of people who have “closed their minds” that official version is 100 % correct and there is no error in that.
Every other evidence that casts doubt on official version is rejected summarily and the official version (even when in doubt) is accepted as “most reasonable” rendering.
Best thing in this situation is to every one post his story and leave the judgement to readers or to God, who shall decide who was speaking the truth.
Are you suffering from dementia...you are denser then usual.

Where did you see me use the official version?
In any other version what exactly did i corroborate?

I do expect concise answers since you are making your statement with such pooha!

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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/judaism/T...

MUQ you are the one that suggested that 'They'only want to believe that OBL did it all alone.

You brought it up.

Byzantian they should have your tongue cut of!
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
QUESTION:
Can a being like the Hebrew deity, YHVH, who is the epitome of curses, abuses, blood thirstiness, threats, barbarism, wars, genocide, sectarianism, jealousy, rage and other evils ever be considered a good spirit?
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rabbee: a blessing for those, who are actually here in TheTorah. and a curse for those, following the subtle not here in TheTorah beasts of the fields. so if you choose to be cursed for not being here in TheTorah. who's falt, is that???

curses, abuses, blood thirstiness, threats, barbarism, wars, genocide, illness, sectarianism, jealousy, rage and other evils are your choices for denouncing G-D, here and now in TheTorah actually. this world has rejected, being in GsnEden again here in TheTorah. and you are paying for it, with you own pestilence, plague and famine. so how can any of you, be considered as a good spirit blessed of G-D?
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It was build to mainly withstand lateral force, to sway, but prone to angular momentum downward at allready 15ft!
Only 4 sky-scrapers of this particular design have been build.
Constructional engineers were not surprised.
It should at least trigger some critical faculties in that head of yours that none consider it worth repeating anywhere!
rabbee? what??? you mean it was not designed, to take the weight of more than six billion against G-D, pushing down on them??? in one heck, of a big, butterfly effect.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
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And the Muslims blindly believe all the nonsense contained in their Quran!
rabbee: i thought that any religious book, that can be edited, by any one of their own is called wikiqurania? given enough time, they can include any thing, they didn't think of then.
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Eric wrote:
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Approximately how many Israeli civilians were killed by Arabs during their 1948 invasion of Israel?
rabbee: no more or less, than G-D said. for this world refusing to be, all mentally here in TheTorah too. making everyone not here in TheTorah today, responsible for that crime against G-D. for only those actally all here, in TheTorah today are considered as innocent by G-D.
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MUQ wrote:
Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 18A
By Jeffrey Rudolph
THE ISRAEL-PALESTINE QUIZ QUESTIONS:
Q18.
Approximately how many Lebanese civilians were killed by Israel during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon?
Ans. 18.
10,000.
(CONTD.)
rabbee? can you pass the ysrael palestinian test?

approximatly how many, dead and missing were caused by the ysralee palestinean conflict? in countries hit by december 26, 2004 indian ocean tsunami.
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how many people have died innapropiatly, this century so far? as a result of muslem and world disbelief, in G-D actually here in TheTorah.
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Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 19

By Jeffrey Rudolph

Q19. Approximately how many cluster sub-munitions (bomblets) were dropped by Israel on Lebanon in the last few days of the 2006 Lebanon confrontation?

(CONTD.)

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