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Buford, GA

Pit Bulls Attack Cows in Gwinnett

Early on Saturday morning, Kenneth Wallace of Bart Johnson Road in Buford heard what he says he thought was dogs fighting.

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KELLY
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Jul 21, 2007
 
Yes but that is what pit bulls were originally bread for. In the 1800’s, the English created pit bulls for blood sports such as bear and bull baiting. But also were found to be good working farm dogs. And only after blood sports had been deemed illegal in England, did dog fighting become a popular underground sport. But even those dogs were house pets and were not bread to be human aggressive. But just like every human, not all pits are the same. So in this case I would say yes, these were bad pits but only in that they had tried to attack the men; other wise they were only doing what they know is in there blood. But overall, pits are not bad dogs, and can, and do, live normal dog lives all over the world.
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Jul 21, 2007
 
Regardless of whether they are good dogs or not, Owners are responsible for whatever damage they do. I would never want that responsibility. I think it's ridiculous that people say the media is making them out to be worse dogs than they are. What possible motivation could the media have to do that? Get ready for a lawsuit if you cant handle your dogs or if they accidently get out of your care.
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Jul 21, 2007
 
cre8foru wrote:
Regardless of whether they are good dogs or not, Owners are responsible for whatever damage they do. I would never want that responsibility. I think it's ridiculous that people say the media is making them out to be worse dogs than they are. What possible motivation could the media have to do that? Get ready for a lawsuit if you cant handle your dogs or if they accidently get out of your care.
well what made you look at this artical? was it because it had to do with pit bulls attacking a cow? let me see......i have no idea why the media would do such a thing. how about the story about Weela the pit bull. she saved 30 people, 29 dogs, 13 horses, and 1 cat during a flood in Southern California but the media REFUSED to print that she was a pit bull. and i bet this is another you've never hered of, Stubby. America's first war dog, he is the most decorated war dog in U.S. history. or RCA, Alaskas first certified hearing dog. my all time favorit story is of Popsicle. left in a freezer as a puppy, descovered during a drug raid, now a decorated officer as a narcotics canine, or how about Blueberry. she was at the time pregnet and still took a bullet for her human and scared off the robber. both her and her puppys servived.
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Jul 23, 2007
 
Look at what type of people own pitbulls.

Anyone with any common sence would not even think about buying a pitbull.

They are useless dogs that have only been taught to attack wether it be animals or humans.

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Jul 23, 2007
 
CHC wrote:
Look at what type of people own pitbulls.
Anyone with any common sence would not even think about buying a pitbull.
They are useless dogs that have only been taught to attack wether it be animals or humans.
Well here's the deal. Yes, they've been given a bad rap, but with due reason.
Even the most responsible pit bull owner will tell you that those dogs will turn on you in a heartbeat.
It's their nature.

The media is RIGHT to warn people of the dangers of these dogs.

And for those that think we're just picking on pits, check your local animal control and find out what the 3 most commonly dangerous dogs are....in EVERY state.....

1. Pitt Bull
2. Rots
3. German Shepard's

A distant 4th is the Chow.

It's not "picking", it's the law of nature.
Liz
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Jul 23, 2007
 
CHC wrote:
Look at what type of people own pitbulls.
Anyone with any common sence would not even think about buying a pitbull.
They are useless dogs that have only been taught to attack wether it be animals or humans.
Those statements are completely unfounded. I have plenty of sense thank you. I am college educated and not a "thug" nor anything else that you are implying.

Oh and by the way..... Sense is spelled "sense" and not "sence" and it should be whether and not wether. Before you attack a group of people that you are making assumptions about why don't you educate yourself a tad more. Maybe then you can get people to believe your nonsense.

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Jul 26, 2007
 
Can anyone tell me why this is even a topic of discussion now if it happened in May? Oh yeah I know, because of the Michael Vick case or maybe because of the pit bull that attacked a child. Come on people, the He-man pit bull haters bandwagon is full. I suppose that from now on any dog that bites anyone will automatically be labeled as a Pit bull. Pretty soon we'll see 5lb Pit bulls that resemble the taco bell dog huh? give it a rest
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Aug 9, 2007
 
CHC wrote:
Look at what type of people own pitbulls.
Anyone with any common sence would not even think about buying a pitbull.
They are useless dogs that have only been taught to attack wether it be animals or humans.
You said it. They are doing what they have been TAUGHT to do. Its not the dog. Its the owner. Any k-9 that is taught to attack will do so. Whether its a pitbull or a chihuahua, if its TAUGHT to attack...it will. WHO TEACHES the K-9. A HUMAN DOES. So b/f you get on your pitbull soap box, look at the owner. Pitbulls have just caught a bad wrap b/c they are one of the most advertised images for aggressive dogs. They are beautiful loving animals in the right hands. Own one b/f you judge one.
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Aug 9, 2007
 
I have owned pits over thirty year. They all have been very good dogs. Owners are responsible for their pets. If it were my cow I would have protected it as well. I have never let my dogs run, this is irresponsible. I hate seeing dogs laying dead along the road because the owners have not concern for them. Pit bulls do get a bad rap and will continue to do so as long as irresponsible people keep breeding them and selling them to others that are just purchasing them to fight. I love puppies and could not imagine raising them and turning one over to someone that I even for a second thought was going to mistreat it. If you have never owned a pit then I don't think you can have a honest opinion about them.
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Aug 9, 2007
 
I posted on here and it was deleted. This is stupid.
Jason Jacumin
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Sep 3, 2007
 
Your an idiot I have owned 4 of your uneducated top 5 most dangerous breeds and I can assure you that I would leave my children in there care long before I would leave them with a lab. I just want to know ho many of these dogs you have owned idiot.
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Well here's the deal. Yes, they've been given a bad rap, but with due reason.
Even the most responsible pit bull owner will tell you that those dogs will turn on you in a heartbeat.
It's their nature.
The media is RIGHT to warn people of the dangers of these dogs.
And for those that think we're just picking on pits, check your local animal control and find out what the 3 most commonly dangerous dogs are....in EVERY state.....
1. Pitt Bull
2. Rots
3. German Shepard's
A distant 4th is the Chow.
It's not "picking", it's the law of nature.

“Compromise yourself for no one”

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Sep 3, 2007
 
Jason Jacumin wrote:
Your an idiot I have owned 4 of your uneducated top 5 most dangerous breeds and I can assure you that I would leave my children in there care long before I would leave them with a lab. I just want to know ho many of these dogs you have owned idiot.
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No need for name calling. And I'm not an idiot. I did the research after my child was attacked by a german shepard. I got this info from reliable federal sources.

Also, I'm not saying ALL these dogs are dangerous. I'm simply stating that according to the federal statistics, they are deemed to potentially be the most dangerous.

I believe you owe me an apology jerk.
Laura Wrzeski
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Sep 3, 2007
 
Three years ago I was attacked on my property by a pit that knew me and was friendly. Her owners were loving and responsible. None of us could discern a "trigger". Three weeks ago the loved, docile pit owned by responsible owners chased a small dog into the home of a disabled woman, killed the dog and almost killed the woman; ripped her to shreds. My position is that these animals have been GENETICALLY ABUSED to be incompatible with human safety. Even under ideal circumstances a docile pit that has never acted out suddenly will and do attack viciously. A little pony had his face partially removed by loose pits, and there are these cows and don't forget the news crew that were savaged. I repeat: enough of these attacks are by family pets that were previously docile and loving, kept by loving and responsible owners, to make it clear that it is not possible to keep them safely enough.
Idiotic references to killer cocker spaniels miss the fact (deliberately) that cocker attacks are survivable and smaller, less powerful dogs are easier to keep under control/confinement. Pits didn't ask humans to make them unpredictably aggressive and incredibly powerful, but they are.
I keep asking pit enthusiasts this question, but no one will answer: If you love this breed so much, do you feel nothing for the thousands of these dogs that are abandoned and then euthanized because almost no one will adopt them? Isn't it time to stop producing more of them? For the dogs' sake if you can't empathize with the human tragedies.
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#20
Sep 3, 2007
 
I answered you in another thread lady. Exactly what is your point?

Well what about fat people? If its in their genes to be fat and cost people money in the long run lets just abort them before they are born? Or maybe just sterilize their parents. After all why should they be able to reproduce? How about slow people? Lets sterilize everyone that doesn't live up to your standards.

Completely inane argument!
Laura Wrzeski
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Sep 3, 2007
 
Liz: My point is that even pits that have never before been aggressive and that are kept by loving and responsible owners have demonstrated that because of their deliberately bred (by humans) aggression and superior physical power cannot be safely kept. Because I realize that defenders of the breed really love the dogs, they dismiss a lot of the human pain associated with attacks, rationalizing that the dogs had all been provoked by victims, trained to be aggressive, or irresponsibly kept. While much of that is often true, it is also true that unprovoked and unprecedented attacks by well-trained animals with responsible owners do happen often enough to be of great concern. I felt that if pit enthusiasts could not empathize with attack victims, could they possibly take a look at the dog victims? Again, pit bulls are the most-abandoned and least-adopted dog. This is a tragedy. If you can't bring yourself to look rationally at the facts about attacks, can you see why it is a mistake to allow more of these genetically abused animals to be born to die?
My point about cocker spaniels was made because that breed is often referred to as one that often bites. This is an invalid defense of pit bull attacks because the pit bull's sheer physical power in comparison to a smaller animal makes their bite devastatingly more destructive and the animal far more difficult to control. An attack by either breed of dog is not comparable in terms of damage done to the victim.
I'm sorry if I missed your response to another comment of mine, please refer me to it. I love all critters and do not advocate removing any one's pet from their family. I do think it is wrong to continue to churn out more pit bulls to be savaged in dog fighting or die in animal shelters.
I do not agree with equating a breed of dog with a human being that may have a health problem. Again, the two are not comparable.
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Sep 5, 2007
 
Laura and my fellow Cajun girl seem to be the only ones that are thinking reasonably about this
situation. My neighbor took her dog to a dog
park where a couple had their pit bull in on of
the dog runs. This pit was going after most of
the other dogs and the owners were acting like
it was everyone elses dogs tauting their pit bull
and making him behave aggressively.
You just can't win with these people, they always
want to blame others.
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#23
Sep 5, 2007
 
I'm in Forsyth County and not in Conyers, Ga.
just an FYI

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Sep 5, 2007
 
Bayou Gal in Cumming wrote:
I'm in Forsyth County and not in Conyers, Ga.
just an FYI
LOL I'm in buford.
What "what baya ya frum" Terrobonne or Lafourche Parish!

Anything else is NOT cajun.:-P

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Sep 6, 2007
 
Jason Jacumin wrote:
Your an idiot I have owned 4 of your uneducated top 5 most dangerous breeds and I can assure you that I would leave my children in there care long before I would leave them with a lab. I just want to know ho many of these dogs you have owned idiot.
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While I so understand all of you. Let me say this.
Cockers were at one time the most poupler dog in the US hence they were also the number 1 bite dog. I was biten by a sweet docile German Shepered when I was a kid. I have owned a Rottie before and a Doberman. I now have a Chi. I work in Vet med. and over the years I have seen many of these breeds Most of the time the owners are worse then the dogs. I have seen pets that were attacked by the neighbors dogs ( not nessiarly Pits) I have seen begals that you could not treat b/c they are aggrisve.( yes my spelling bites) Seems to me that we must make sure that breeders and owners take responcabilty for all their pets.
And if you know a backyard breeder then report them. Please remeber to spay and neuter your pets. For health and overpopultion.
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Sep 6, 2007
 
Bayou Gal in Cumming wrote:
Laura and my fellow Cajun girl seem to be the only ones that are thinking reasonably about this
situation. My neighbor took her dog to a dog
park where a couple had their pit bull in on of
the dog runs. This pit was going after most of
the other dogs and the owners were acting like
it was everyone elses dogs tauting their pit bull
and making him behave aggressively.
You just can't win with these people, they always
want to blame others.
and you always want to blame the dogs. You JUST said the OWNERS.

I don't need to make excuses for my dog. She doesn't leave my property. I am a responsible dog owner. No ands if or buts about it.
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