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why does judge cox think there's no drug prob. in franklin co.? why is our judge aganst drug court? dont he want to help the young people of franklin county? is he related to the drug cartel of the area?
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OMg you are ate up! Franklin County cannot afford to have a drug court or take care of all of the drug heads here in FC. It's not the tax payers problems it is a personal problem and family problem. I refuse to pay for someone who chose to take drugs!
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just sayin wrote:
why does judge cox think there's no drug prob. in franklin co.? why is our judge aganst drug court? dont he want to help the young people of franklin county? is he related to the drug cartel of the area?
You are retarded. All he see's is drug problems. Franklin Co. is one of the poorest Co's. in the state. Where do you think the money would come from to have a drug court? I have an idea, all you dope heads should quit. You choose to use the crap, just choose to stop.
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its a illness, once started they cant stop the herion it takes over your body and soul.. pay for it out of the fees and fines...and items taken from the drug dealers..
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1)Currently there are no resources in the county to treat these people. These resources are need Before a drug court can work.
2)it would be better if there was treatment BEFORE these people become criminals. A drug court is only for repeat offenders.
3)The judge has said that the court will work with defendants, giving time off for treatment.
4 Only 1 person would have been eligible for drug court last year if there had been one.
5)Had that person ask the court for and shown a reasonable plan of treatment I believe that the court would work with them.(just my opinion)
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Friends, Family, Preachers, and loved ones need to work with these people Before the problem escalates into criminal activity. Finding the problem early and taking the necessary steps to stop it are crucial. Friends, Family, Preachers, and loved ones need to demand that this stops before it even happens, but be willing to take strong steps when they see it starting.
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Judge is one of the fairest most honest people I know,and I have known him a long time,will back him in anything,.He didn't get these people on drugs they did it to themselves,time for people to start taking a little responsibilty for their mistakes and help themselves,thatis if they really want help,most just want to whine how bad they have had it,well grow up and work on your problems your self
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I agree ugh! These people make the FIRST initial choice to try drugs and there after they are hooked. While it is an addiction they still made that first choice so it is their responsibility to to clean themselves up. If they can't clean themselves up then it's cheaper to put them in jail so that they can get clean. If they chose to deal or make drugs then they deserve to go to prison! It seems simple and clear cut to me. There is nothing worng with the job Cox is doing, he goes by the book and seems to be a fair man! He will get my vote.
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ugh wrote:
Judge is one of the fairest most honest people I know,and I have known him a long time,will back him in anything,.He didn't get these people on drugs they did it to themselves,time for people to start taking a little responsibilty for their mistakes and help themselves,thatis if they really want help,most just want to whine how bad they have had it,well grow up and work on your problems your self
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to bad people feel the need to do drugs to feel good. my down fall is food .that makes me real happy
Pebbles

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Even if there was a drug court..... just a bunch of real estate agents would be on it.
Do drugs = CIC consequences.
Want a treatment center??
The 3 little real estate agents will sell ya the land to build it.
good luck

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I dont think it is Judge Cox.
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We tax payers don't have the money to pay for the drug heads. Besides, as a rule these drugs heads usually relaspe more than one time and it takes thousands of dollars to rehab them. If the drug heads get a drug court the next thing will be for alcoholics, over eaters, over spenders, murderers, where does it stop and why does it have ot even begin? They have the money to buy the drugs so the can come up with the money to get clean IF THAT IS WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.
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Realizing a drug court is not the answer here is not the same as ignoring the drug problem. It won't work here for a variety of reasons. Better to send the people who would qualify (very limited here) to Dearborn County by change of venue. People who want to quit will find a way to quit, even if they go to jail first, and sometimes because they went to jail first. doesn't have to cost a bunch--plenty of people have just quit on their own or done it through AA and NA. The key is you have to want to make the changes needed to get there. Even with a drug court, there is not necessarily a reason for a person to stay clean and sober after going through drug court unless they want to.
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No logic wrote:
Realizing a drug court is not the answer here is not the same as ignoring the drug problem. It won't work here for a variety of reasons. Better to send the people who would qualify (very limited here) to Dearborn County by change of venue. People who want to quit will find a way to quit, even if they go to jail first, and sometimes because they went to jail first. doesn't have to cost a bunch--plenty of people have just quit on their own or done it through AA and NA. The key is you have to want to make the changes needed to get there. Even with a drug court, there is not necessarily a reason for a person to stay clean and sober after going through drug court unless they want to.
I get your Logic and most people say why waste Money on something that other people created and will live with this most of their lives.

I think one reason Drug Court would have a chance is to keep a person out of the System meaning Jail or Prison that would be a good first step in showing that one wants to obide by the Law.

Another reason It would give them a chance to make It right with Family or any kids envolved that they have hurt or have forgot about during their hard times noing they have done wrong and want to do better.
My Name Is Earl

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1. Money, clientele and clinical staff are available for a Drug Court program.

2. 30-plus counties in Indiana have Drug Courts and the number is growing every year. This trend indicates we will have one, eventually.

3. The suggestion of a Drug Court does not suppose the judges are not doing their job. Drug Courts are simply an additional tool to address addiction.

4. Drug Courts are cheaper than incarceration and those who graduate are much less likely to re-offend.

5. Addiction is not a personal problem: It affects us all.

6. It is true that a person has to want to get sober. The choice of prison or Drug Court has made a whole lot of people want to seek help. Therefore, the criminal justice system is a unique and powerful lever to persuade an individual to get sober when the pleas of friends and family are not.

Drug courts work better for addicts because addicts don’t respond to prison. As soon as they get out they will offend again. They do not “learn their lesson.” This is because addicts are unique in that they don’t react to alcohol and drugs the way you and I do. They, due to psychological and physiological factors peculiar to those with addictive tendencies, find it extraordinarily difficult not to use and to stop once started. For them it is a sickness – a clinically defined disease process - and not merely a matter of take-it-or-leave-it that most of us enjoy.

Reading some of the comments above, I am once again struck by the disdain and disgust exhibited toward those with addictive disorders. Disdain and disgust somehow absent when a close friend or relative died of tobacco (drug addiction)- related cancer. For these individuals there seems to be some sort of perverse and self-righteous litmus test – a test based upon who ‘deserves’ and who does not. Granpa’s self-imposed lung cancer? God I loved him! Grandma’s self-imposed diabetes? God I miss her! That low-life tattooed trailer court guy’s self-imposed alcoholism? Screw him! Put him under the jail! I’m not paying for him! He should’ve helped himself!

What I find most egregious and hypocritical is the likelihood that some who penned these comments and those who agree with them are or were overweight, smokers, etc.- i.e., current or former addicts themselves. But it does not enter the mind. There is no empathy… only the mean-spirited desire to look down upon and judge.
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My Name Is Earl wrote:
1. Money, clientele and clinical staff are available for a Drug Court program.
2. 30-plus counties in Indiana have Drug Courts and the number is growing every year. This trend indicates we will have one, eventually.
3. The suggestion of a Drug Court does not suppose the judges are not doing their job. Drug Courts are simply an additional tool to address addiction.
4. Drug Courts are cheaper than incarceration and those who graduate are much less likely to re-offend.
5. Addiction is not a personal problem: It affects us all.
6. It is true that a person has to want to get sober. The choice of prison or Drug Court has made a whole lot of people want to seek help. Therefore, the criminal justice system is a unique and powerful lever to persuade an individual to get sober when the pleas of friends and family are not.
Drug courts work better for addicts because addicts don’t respond to prison. As soon as they get out they will offend again. They do not “learn their lesson.” This is because addicts are unique in that they don’t react to alcohol and drugs the way you and I do. They, due to psychological and physiological factors peculiar to those with addictive tendencies, find it extraordinarily difficult not to use and to stop once started. For them it is a sickness – a clinically defined disease process - and not merely a matter of take-it-or-leave-it that most of us enjoy.
Reading some of the comments above, I am once again struck by the disdain and disgust exhibited toward those with addictive disorders. Disdain and disgust somehow absent when a close friend or relative died of tobacco (drug addiction)- related cancer. For these individuals there seems to be some sort of perverse and self-righteous litmus test – a test based upon who ‘deserves’ and who does not. Granpa’s self-imposed lung cancer? God I loved him! Grandma’s self-imposed diabetes? God I miss her! That low-life tattooed trailer court guy’s self-imposed alcoholism? Screw him! Put him under the jail! I’m not paying for him! He should’ve helped himself!
What I find most egregious and hypocritical is the likelihood that some who penned these comments and those who agree with them are or were overweight, smokers, etc.- i.e., current or former addicts themselves. But it does not enter the mind. There is no empathy… only the mean-spirited desire to look down upon and judge.
The drug head is not my problem cuz I don't have any family or friends on drugs. I refuse to pay or help another person I don't know for THEIR addiction that they chose to do the first time and then became addicted. If they would just say no!
Why not help the local people who are diagnosed with cancer, or a senior who is struggling making thier bills in our community instead of putting our tax dollars towards a selfish idiot who chose to do drugs?
My Name Is Earl

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Mystery wrote:
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The drug head is not my problem cuz I don't have any family or friends on drugs. I refuse to pay or help another person I don't know for THEIR addiction that they chose to do the first time and then became addicted. If they would just say no!
Why not help the local people who are diagnosed with cancer, or a senior who is struggling making thier bills in our community instead of putting our tax dollars towards a selfish idiot who chose to do drugs?
Addicts ARE our problem in the form of higher health care and auto insurance costs, etc. Also, many cancers and major physiological disorders are the result of selfish lifestyle choices.

We will have to agree to disagree, my friend.
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THE REPUBLICAN wrote:
<quoted text> You are retarded. All he see's is drug problems. Franklin Co. is one of the poorest Co's. in the state. Where do you think the money would come from to have a drug court? I have an idea, all you dope heads should quit. You choose to use the crap, just choose to stop.
i agree somewhat. I DO NOT believe it is the courts job to pay for rehab! BS! They can afford a $300 a week pill habit, they can pay for rehab. However, arrest their asses and fine them to the max, even the misdomeanors and then that will create money for the county to better fight this growing epidemic. In case you arent aware, Laurel is part of the county, if that doesnt prove a drug problem i dont know what will. But if Cox puts em all in jail, where will he get his coke?
Just wonderin

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Betting that Earl is a democrat!
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Betting that Earl is a democrat!
Betting you are a Republican......
You have the accent....

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